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post 1542824871 02-04-2018, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By stfudonny⏩
they were great mathematicians....but please explain how their work has had a bigger impact on our daily lives than tesla.
Thanks for asking!

When I go in the lab to work on potential 5g wireless architectures, I'm using math formed by Newton, refined into systems by Fourier based off relationships poised by Maxwell that was an expansion upon Euler's work.

Tesla has a unit of magnetism named after him, though.

Also Gauss > Tesla.

Just so you know Maxwell's equations are the basis for what every RF engineer in this country uses. They were actually refined into relativity by Einstein.

The fact that we're in a thread talking about how underrated tesla is for predicting a phone while none of you know the name of the scientists MAKING IT HAPPEN is telling.
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post 1542825041 02-04-2018, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I mean, it's weird to term that all as "penis" but your name is Lucianus so I shouldn't be too surprised.
And shrug, you're the one who asked. I was just curious in the context of this thread about asking whether people would want to trade places with Tesla. You sound annoyed that I chose to define Tesla this way, but it's hard not to take into account his personal life when measuring who he was and why his life turned out the way it did.
I'm a bit annoyed at the fact he was talking about cell phones in 1926 and you're wasting time talking about sex which any simpleton does everyday.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Do you know who the other people are? You probably know Newton/Einstein, but don't tell me Tesla is under-rated compared to Euler, Maxwell, or Fourier.

I'll give you a clue. Your phone works because of those guys. Tesla was talking about THEM.
I recognise them all minus Fourier.
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If he had shown no interest in women at all you might have a point, but he worshipped women as per that previous quote.

So he loved women and never got laid. That is one miserable existence.
Look, I understand that sex is extremely important to you and that your mind can't even fathom the chit that Tesla was thinking.

I get your stance - you think he's beta because he didn't have sex.

I think the complete opposite. We have different opinions and I'll leave it at that
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post 1542825581 02-04-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Thanks for asking!

When I go in the lab to work on potential 5g wireless architectures, I'm using math formed by Newton, refined into systems by Fourier based off relationships poised by Maxwell that was an expansion upon Euler's work.

Tesla has a unit of magnetism named after him, though.

Also Gauss > Tesla.

Just so you know Maxwell's equations are the basis for what every RF engineer in this country uses. They were actually refined into relativity by Einstein.

The fact that we're in a thread talking about how underrated tesla is for predicting a phone while none of you know the name of the scientists MAKING IT HAPPEN is telling.
Like I've already said ITT, what about Tesla's zero point energy that has been held back from the public because the economy depends on the status quo?
post 1542825871 02-04-2018, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
Like I've already said ITT, what about Tesla's zero point energy that has been held back from the public because the economy depends on the status quo?
Do know what zero point energy is? Maxwell/Einstein/Plank did a pretty good job laying it out as well as Fermi-Dirac systems (these guys laid out the statistical distributions that describe quantum tunneling at zero point energy that we use today in our solid state devices). I am not sure what you're getting at?

We use zero point energy lol. Perhaps if you're interested in these things you should learn the field?
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post 1542825881 02-04-2018, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Thanks for asking!

When I go in the lab to work on potential 5g wireless architectures, I'm using math formed by Newton, refined into systems by Fourier based off relationships poised by Maxwell that was an expansion upon Euler's work.

Tesla has a unit of magnetism named after him, though.

Also Gauss > Tesla.

Just so you know Maxwell's equations are the basis for what every RF engineer in this country uses. They were actually refined into relativity by Einstein.

The fact that we're in a thread talking about how underrated tesla is for predicting a phone while none of you know the name of the scientists MAKING IT HAPPEN is telling.
??? and that very specific situation extrapolates out in what way? the modern world just wouldnt be the same without 5g.....
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post 1542825951 02-04-2018, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Lol how typical of you to reduce all to just "sex" as if that were no big deal. Sex seems like something you're rather obsessed about considering many of your other posts. And sex is definitely a huge part of quality of life. And I'm wasting time? On a misc thread? SHOCKING! lmao.
It's something I troll about - yes, but I actually relate to Tesla in this regard, I've been celibate for over a year to focus and exceed on other things that matter much more to me, and it's working out well.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Do know what zero point energy is? Maxwell/Einstein/Plank did a pretty good job laying it out as well as Fermi-Dirac systems (these guys laid out the statistical distributions that describe quantum tunneling at zero point energy that we use today in our solid state devices). I am not sure what you're getting at?

We use zero point energy lol. Perhaps if you're interested in these things you should learn the field?
So why wasn't it implemented decades ago? In everything? Like it very well could have.
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Originally Posted By stfudonny⏩
??? and that very specific situation extrapolates out in what way? the modern world just wouldnt be the same without 5g.....
All radio communications are based off the theory founded by those guys to this very day. That was easy to get from what I stated if you knew 5g was the latest development in phone communications which is exactly what op was about.
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OMG

You phucking idiots...you cannot use zero point energy to do useful work...it is literally the lowest energy state of the system, you cucks. Do you people even thermodynamics?

If you used it to do work, the system would go to a lower energy state than the zero point, which would contradict the entire idea of it being the fukin zero point. FUK

Disclaimer: This only applies at large effective timescales.
post 1542826361 02-04-2018, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
OMG

You phucking idiots...you cannot use zero point energy to do useful work...it is literally the lowest energy state of the system, you cucks. Do you people even thermodynamics?

If you used it to do work, the system would go to a lower energy state than the zero point, which would contradict the entire idea of it being the fukin zero point. FUK
Is THAT what they're saying?!
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Is THAT what they're saying?!
IDK but whenever anyone talks about using zero point energy to do anything for timescales considerably longer than the planck time, they are lying to you. And zero point energy isn't really relevant to quantum tunneling.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
You've been celibate for over a YEAR? a true vo-cel?
Well chit, no wonder you're digging Tesla like a mofo right now. Carry on.
Yeah, actually well over a year lol, i'm in the closet and feel better progressing in Uni than I do shagging, for the time being anyway
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
All radio communications are based off the theory founded by those guys to this very day. That was easy to get from what I stated if you knew 5g was the latest development in phone communications which is exactly what op was about.
"latest development" that we've been exposed to maybe.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
IDK but whenever anyone talks about using zero point energy to do anything for timescales considerably longer than the planck time, they are lying to you.
That's it I'm out. This is a Tesla conspiracy thread now.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
All radio communications are based off the theory founded by those guys to this very day. That was easy to get from what I stated if you knew 5g was the latest development in phone communications which is exactly what op was about.
youre spinning in circles man. im an EE so spare me the pseudo intellectual routine. what tesla did hasdirectlyeffected the lives of probably 99% of people alive today. you cannot make that statement about any one of those individuals you keep name dropping. the only ones coming close being newton or maxwell.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
That's it I'm out. This is a Tesla conspiracy thread now.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
That's it I'm out. This is a Tesla conspiracy thread now.
What I mean is quantum tunneling has absolutely dick to do with zero point energy. You do not "use" zero point energy for anything.
Originally Posted By stfudonny⏩
youre spinning in circles man. im an EE so spare me the pseudo intellectual routine. what tesla did has directly effected the lives of probably 99% of people alive today. you cannot make that statement about any one of those individuals you keep name dropping. the only one coming close being newton.
No. Actually, you really can. The scientists he listed were considerably more important to the development of science and technology than Tesla, but indirectly. Tesla was still probably among the greatest inventors of all time though, but he really doesn't compare at all to Maxwell, Fourier, Einstein, or Dirac...
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
What I mean is quantum tunneling has absolutely dick to do with zero point energy. You do not "use" zero point energy for anything.
It's a reference point used in calculating other points used for determining the probability. The "energy" itself is not used. That's like saying we'd use darkness for solar power.
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Originally Posted By stfudonny⏩
youre spinning in circles man. im an EE so spare me the pseudo intellectual routine. what tesla did hasdirectlyeffected the lives of probably 99% of people alive today. you cannot make that statement about any one of those individuals you keep name dropping. the only one coming close being newton.
You're not an EE. You couldn't even understand how wireless tech relates to the people who laid the foundation for them. I had to spell it out for you. Sophomore EEs know more than you.

MSEE master race in this biatch.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
It's a reference point used in calculating other points used for determining the probability. The "energy" itself is not used. That's like saying we'd use darkness for solar power.
The reference point is not used to compute the probability amplitudes at all. It is the result of the calculation. It is not used to compute tunneling probabilities. It is simply the minimal state the system can be in, and is mainly of theoretical interest for quantum field theory.

I just take offense to your phrasing:
"Do know what zero point energy is? Maxwell/Einstein/Plank did a pretty good job laying it out as well as Fermi-Dirac systems (these guys laid out the statistical distributions that describe quantum tunneling at zero point energy that we use today in our solid state devices). I am not sure what you're getting at?

We use zero point energy lol. Perhaps if you're interested in these things you should learn the field?"
Fermi-Dirac statistics allow one to quantify macrostates and therefore, entropy, for fermion systems. While these statistics are important for understanding the average distribution of electrons in a given state, and thus, are related to tunneling, it feels like the phrasing you gave is just a bunch of words thrown around that are only vaguely connected.
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fukkin hero in my eyes.








This quote also resonates with me and what he's meaning here, has changed my life more than anything ever has.

Maybe this is why I'm such a big fan.
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What is so impressive about Tesla talking about cell phones? Dude did major work in the field of radio and wireless power transfer. Is it a big leap to assume he could make television and phones wireless too?

How about Da Vinci talking about helicopters back in ~1500. Or how so many things were inspired from freakin Star Trek.

Tesla achieved many things but you guys are romanticising him too much. And just lol @ all the conspiracy chit. Just stop. Try studying more physics and math... Lots of other scientists to jerk off about.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
The reference point is not used to compute the probability amplitudes at all. It is the result of the calculation. It is not used to compute tunneling probabilities. It is simply the minimal state the system can be in, and is mainly of theoretical interest for quantum field theory.
Re-read what I said.
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Originally Posted By CoolKnees⏩
What is so impressive about Tesla talking about cell phones? Dude did major work in the field of radio and wireless power transfer. Is it a big leap to assume he could make television and phones wireless too?

How about Da Vinci talking about helicopters back in ~1500. Or how so many things were inspired from freakin Star Trek.

Tesla achieved many things but you guys are romanticising him too much. And just lol @ all the conspiracy chit. Just stop. Try studying more physics and math... Lots of other scientists to jerk off about.
I absolutely love Da Vinci too amongst loads of others, I'm currently studying Hypatia who I'm enjoying too

I'm not saying Tesla is the greatest but I admire him greatly and I think he's worth making a thread about on an internet forum. Not a big deal, people make dumb threads on here all the time about other chit
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Re-read what I said.
WTF does this mean: "these guys laid out the statistical distributions that describe quantum tunneling at zero point energy that we use today in our solid state devices"?

None of our solid state devices are at zero point. What does it mean to "tunnel at zero point energy?"
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Interdasting he sort of suggests quantum mechanics..

If that quote is real
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I'm kinda shocked you're in the closet, no offense.
on recharge btw

yeah lmao, I've only ever had girlfriends. (not anymore tho, cause i've matured and realised it's not fair on the girls)

but life is just easier in the closet. I'm very low-drama and want a quiet life, being in the closet (and celibate) works best for me. I might feel different when I'm 30, but I'm 20 just now and just want to do the best I can in uni, to go on and get an MA then a DPhil
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