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post 1543831721 02-14-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Mudshovel⏩
So does anyone know how he got the gun?
No idea and I'm not going to mainstream media about this at the moment.

But...he is 19.
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Originally Posted By RespectYourself⏩
And the militias all around the country with huge stockpiles of weapons will just give up?
No militias required, you impose a nan for 1-2 years, and anyone seen with a gun will be issued a fine, noone will barge into their house to take it. they will eventaully run out of ammunition due to the termination of sales of guns and ammunition. if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place.
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
No militias required, you impose a nan for 1-2 years, and anyone seen with a gun will be issued a fine, noone will barge into their house to take it. they will eventaully run out of ammunition due to the termination of sales of guns and ammunition. if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place.
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Originally Posted By Mudshovel⏩
So does anyone know how he got the gun?
I don't think you're aware on how easy it is to get a gun in America bro lol
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post 1543831911 02-14-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
That is exactly how the United States came to be in the first place. You are apparently not capable of understanding what people are capable of.
if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place, and deserve to be sniped to death.
post 1543831941 02-14-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By esmile⏩
Super tragic, I can’t imagine how the parents of the kids murdered must be feeling right now. He’s alive hopefully they run some test on him and we can learn something from this. What if it’s actually something in the water?? Also did they release a motive? Just now reading about this.
Angry about being expelled I think. It appears he had a history of making threats and had been singled out as a potential threat to the school last year.

Sounds like the bureaucracy might be the one at fault here. Everyone from the school administrators to the mental health professionals to the kids parents may be culpable.
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post 1543831961 02-14-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
Everyone will start shooting each other as soon as a ban is put in place?, so they will sacrifice the life of their families and risk any future for their kidsa and grand children because of some mechnacial killing tool?

I beg to differ.

ban all guns, but do it gradually.
Damn shame I lost all my guns and the thousands of rounds of ammo. There used to be a reloader around here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I knew where it walked off too. And LOL at not having the balls to post this with your main account. Would neg, but not worth it. You got negged at life I think.
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I don't understand how banning AR's or "guns" solves this problem. You know how many loose AK-47's and other munition there is sitting in the homes of people in the post-war Balkan countries? A stupid amount, and I don't see any school shootings there. This is an issue that dwells much deeper than "guns did this", and I'm not even someone who gives a **** about owning a gun.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
It’s a mental and religion problem really when you factor in terrorism. If there were armed teachers in the school that knew what they were doing this would have ended a lot quicker.
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place, and deserve to be sniped to death.
lol, we aren't ripping apart the constitution because of your feels bro
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123⏩
/pol trolled Heavy hard, all those photos were uploaded today, Heavy obviously didn't do their research.
Are you sure about this? How certain are you you aren't being trolled? Were you able to access the page before the delete? Heavy reports the suspect started using that account in 2017, but they don't post the timestamps of the posts.

The Daily Beast interviewed students who knew himhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/nick-c...s-high-school:
“I knew him to be passive aggressive but not violent. He was rude to people. He had an act up like he was tough. He never got into, like, physical fights with anyone, but he did get into verbal arguments,” 17-year-old Ocean Parodie told The Daily Beast. “I just thought he dropped out of school, I didn’t think he would do anything. He always kept a low profile.”

“He was definitely not accepted at our school socially. People saw him as someone who was different than the normal people at our school,” Parodie added.

Douglas High has a place students call “the Emo Gazebo,” he said. “That’s where all the kids that are considered weird or not accepted sat. Kids at the Emo Gazebo didn’t even accept him there. He was just an outcast...He didn’t have any friends.”

Cruz always had his hair short and had a penchant for wearing patriotic shirts that “seemed really extreme, like hating on” Islam, Parodie said. The suspected gunman would also deride Muslims as “terrorists and bombers.”

“I’ve seen him wear a Trump hat,” the student said.

“Most kids ignored him at school. They pushed him off to the side as if he was garbage. He screamed in class one time. He was upset and just started yelling at the teacher. The teacher was trying to help him and he just took it the wrong way,” Parodie continued.
the student (Ocean Parodie) is a junior on the highschool's varsity football team apparently
post 1543832161 02-14-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
Everyone will start shooting each other as soon as a ban is put in place?, so they will sacrifice the life of their families and risk any future for their kidsa and grand children because of some mechnacial killing tool?

I beg to differ.

ban all guns, but do it gradually.
Giving up the ability to defend yourself so that the government can do whatever it wants is sacrificing the life of your family and risking any future for your kids and grandchildren.
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post 1543832211 02-14-2018, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
No militias required, you impose a nan for 1-2 years, and anyone seen with a gun will be issued a fine, noone will barge into their house to take it. they will eventaully run out of ammunition due to the termination of sales of guns and ammunition. if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place.
I see you hold our founding fathers in high regard. Or not
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Giving up the ability to defend yourself so that the government can do whatever it wants is sacrificing the life of your family and risking any future for your kids and grandchildren.
No no no the government isand always will be100% altruistic, in all aspects, just like every police officer has always been, is, and will always be nothing but a faithful civil servant acting with the best interest of the governed at heart at all times
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
I don't understand how banning AR's or "guns" solves this problem. You know how many loose AK-47's and other munition there is sitting in the homes of people in the post-war Balkan countries? A stupid amount, and I don't see any school shootings there. This is an issue that dwells much deeper than "guns did this", and I'm not even someone who gives a **** about owning a gun.
we have a lot of people in the USA who will committ mass murder if they have access to guns if they're having a bad day.

Because of this fact, we should act on it to try to lessen those odds
post 1543832291 02-14-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Giving up the ability to defend yourself so that the government can do whatever it wants is sacrificing the life of your family and risking any future for your kids and grandchildren.
we live in a techno reality society in 2018 dude, this isn't Russia or Germany pre WW2.
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
No militias required, you impose a nan for 1-2 years, and anyone seen with a gun will be issued a fine, noone will barge into their house to take it. they will eventaully run out of ammunition due to the termination of sales of guns and ammunition.if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place.
Why would they run out of ammo? It doesn't have an expiration date. If people aren't allowed tousetheir guns, they wont be using the ammo. And if any ban happened, people would be less likely to waste their ammo. Also, you have heard of reloading, correct?
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post 1543832381 02-14-2018, 07:18 PM
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Wow...didnt hear about this till now. SO insane
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Originally Posted By Kormo⏩
we live under a techno reality society in 2018 dude, this isn't Russia or Germany pre WW2.
And whatever our society and government is right now, it will always and forever be exactly the same, even when every person has turned over due to retirement/old age/elections and even if/when the government obtained an absolute force monopoly
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319⏩
Why would they run out of ammo? It doesn't have an expiration date. If people aren't allowed tousetheir guns, they wont be using the ammo. And if any ban happened, people would be less likely to waste their ammo. Also, you have heard of reloading, correct?
What, you mean you don't take a boat out into the Gulf of Mexico and dump 100 rounds over the side every day just-because, thus eventually running out?
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
What other PRODUCTIVE use do guns have besides KILLING. Lol I was once blind as you.
Whats your point? What will you use in self defense when someone breaks into your house and attempts to kill your family? A baseball bat? Or maybe just tell them the police will be there in 10 minutes so they better run?

I'd rather be the one who controls the outcome of that situation. Maybe you want to take the chance they just want your TV and won't kill you but some of us don't.
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It took one attack with a plane for us to completely change policy, restructure and regulate airplane security. Hasn't been a single plane attack afterwards here.

One guy puts a bomb in his shoe now we gotta take our shoes off before we get on. Hasn't been a single shoe bomb since.

There's been hundreds upon thousands of mass shootings and yet ppl say "there's nothin you can do!"

Banning guns isn't the answer. But to say "nothing" should change is just fukking idiotic.

Wake up
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Giving up the ability to defend yourself so that the government can do whatever it wants is sacrificing the life of your family and risking any future for your kids and grandchildren.
As i said this will be a gradual thing, most people will have guns for 10 to even 20 years from now. There is no fast solution to this as almost every household in america owns a gun at this moment. My proposition is to slowly stop the production of guns and ammunition and implement a Fine for anyone seen carrying a gun. And slowly as ammuntion runs out and the old guns get rusty and in need of repair, their will be an inevitable wipe out of guns. Once they are gone you will have to defend yourself using your fists and/or non lethal weaponry such as a baseball bat. Only in emergency cases.
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
No militias required, you impose a nan for 1-2 years, and anyone seen with a gun will be issued a fine, noone will barge into their house to take it. they will eventaully run out of ammunition due to the termination of sales of guns and ammunition. if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place.
I don't think you understand how many guns and how much ammo is in civilian hands.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
It took one attack with a plane for us to completely change policy, restructure and regulate airplane security. Hasn't been a single plane attack afterwards here.

One guy puts a bomb in his shoe now we gotta take our shoes off before we get on. Hasn't been a single shoe bomb since.

There's been hundreds upon thousands of mass shootings and yet ppl say "there's nothin you can do!"

Banning guns isn't the answer. But to say "nothing" should change is just fukking idiotic.

Wake up
How many plane attacks were there before that?

"hundreds upon thousands of mass shootings"? lol you clearly have lost all touch with reality
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at this point point schools need to have metal detectors and have security guards armed with assault rifles.
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
As i said this will be a gradual thing, most people will have guns for 10 to even 20 years from now. There is no fast solution to this as almost every household in america owns a gun at this moment. My proposition is to slowly stop the production of guns and ammunition and implement a Fine for anyone seen carrying a gun. And slowly as ammuntion runs out and the old guns get rusty and in need of repair, their will be an inevitable wipe out of guns. Once they are gone you will have to defend yourself using your fists and/or non lethal weaponry such as a baseball bat. Only in emergency cases.
mmmm all those unarmed victims. Juicy

BTW you clearly have no clue about how anything with firearms works lol

The most powerful rifle I own was designed in the 1800s, is decades older than I am, and still works perfectly using ammo older than my parents
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Why do people think guns will be able to “defend” themselves from the government??? Do you know what year it is? Do you know what our military is capable of? This pre-20th century logic needs to be let go.
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Originally Posted By GUNCONTROL⏩
if anyone chooses to risk their family and the future lives of their children and grandchildren for the sake of a mechanical object they are useless trash in the first place, and deserve to be sniped to death.
Who is this sniper? Why is he choosing to risk his family's lives? For the noble cause of execution? I remember when trolling meant something. D-
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Originally Posted By mTOR⏩
Are you sure about this? How certain are you you aren't being trolled? Were you able to access the page before the delete? Heavy reports the suspect started using that account in 2017, but they don't post the timestamps of the posts.

The Daily Beast interviewed students who knew himhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/nick-c...s-high-school:



the student (Ocean Parodie) is a junior on the highschool's varsity football team apparently
LOLOLOL Had to throw in he wore a trump hat. Ban Trumpets!!!!
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