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post 1544500661 02-21-2018, 05:14 PM
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source:http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

Interesting website. Check out the charts and maps. Looks like part of the north and midwest and a bit of south west seem to have the least gun violence problems. South east, mid atlantic, and north east are not in good shape though.

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post 1544500871 02-21-2018, 05:17 PM
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So basically it falls in line with population density. If we get rid of the high numbers of people the problem will be fixed.



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post 1544501131 02-21-2018, 05:19 PM
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post 1544501161 02-21-2018, 05:19 PM
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Don't la and nyc have really restrictive gun laws??

Lol... they should probably rethink their policies a bit..
post 1544501261 02-21-2018, 05:21 PM
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post 1544501541 02-21-2018, 05:23 PM
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I don't know why all these places group real mass shootings with a gang shootout of 4 people. Makes that statistic useless.
post 1544501581 02-21-2018, 05:24 PM
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Pretty stupid of them to show incidents and not the incidence rate, but they're gun control advocates, so...
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post 1544501661 02-21-2018, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Skezo⏩
I don't know why all these places group real mass shootings with a gang shootout of 4 people. Makes that statistic useless.
You really don't know? It's to create fear. Do you know how many demanding moms are out there who are convinced that there are 300+ Sandy Hook's annually.
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post 1544501671 02-21-2018, 05:25 PM
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I am so fukking sick and tired of hearing about guns this guns that guns blah blah blah shut the fuk up this country isn't changing their god damn gun laws you pussies
post 1544501821 02-21-2018, 05:26 PM
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Would love to see (or do) a multivariate analysis on gun incidents. Be willing to bet THE highest correlate is poverty or fatherless upbringing.
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post 1544501881 02-21-2018, 05:27 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/flor...tragedies.html

probably a better map to look at
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post 1544502181 02-21-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By cjr169⏩
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/flor...tragedies.html

probably a better map to look at
A map that includes a man killing himself in a building that used to be a school as a school shooting is better?
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post 1544502251 02-21-2018, 05:32 PM
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You realize that picture basically just shows population density right. There's less incidents in the middle because there's less people there

It should be # of incidents per 1000 people, not total # of incidents
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
So basically it falls in line with population density. If we get rid of the high numbers of people the problem will be fixed.



Can't vouch for the US but the Canadian side looks pretty accurate

(I don't know if the recent spree of gun violence and stabbings in Toronto are included tho.)
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post 1544503321 02-21-2018, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
You realize that picture basically just shows population density right. There's less incidents in the middle because there's less people there

It should be # of incidents per 1000 people, not total # of incidents
but that wouldnt look as scary on paper
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Originally Posted By cjr169⏩
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/flor...tragedies.html

probably a better map to look at
No, there haven’t been 18 school shootings in 2018. That number is flat wrong.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/break...BJbqgy?ocid=sf
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The FBI says that states with the most legally owned weapons have the least amount of gun violence. Its time to train and arm teachers. Anything else is a half measure.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Don't la and nyc have really restrictive gun laws??

Lol... they should probably rethink their policies a bit..
Are you implying criminals don’t follow the law?
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
The FBI says that states with the most legally owned weapons have the least amount of gun violence. Its time to train and arm teachers. Anything else is a half measure.
the average teacher is soft and will not fight, the only way it would work is to have dedicated armed security, but the shooters typically dont seem to care if they live or die so i dont think it would deter them from trying.. people hate eachother and society, so as long as that factor remains we will have crazies trying to kill masses of people on the regular
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
The FBI says that states with the most legally owned weapons have the least amount of gun violence. Its time to train and arm teachers. Anything else is a half measure.
that Mississippi logic of peace
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Originally Posted By litljay⏩
No, there haven’t been 18 school shootings in 2018. That number is flat wrong.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/break...BJbqgy?ocid=sf
each event has a description of what happened

did you even read the legend? or look at the map?
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
The FBI says that states with the most legally owned weapons have the least amount of gun violence. Its time to train and arm teachers. Anything else is a half measure.
location: Mississippi.


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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
A map that includes a man killing himself in a building that used to be a school as a school shooting is better?
if we're talking about gun violence in schools its at least more relevant than a map that includes gang violence and other shootings between criminals
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
the average teacher is soft and will not fight, the only way it would work is to have dedicated armed security, but the shooters typically dont seem to care if they live or die so i dont think it would deter them from trying.. people hate eachother and society, so as long as that factor remains we will have crazies trying to kill masses of people on the regular
Armed security is probably the 2nd best idea to arming teachers. Of course, MAJOR financial reform has to be allotted to pay for it all. We should just take the $500m that taxpayers give to planned parenthood and kick start a measure that evens the odds. Unless you can remove all 350+ million firearms, then taking measures to protect yourselves are the best defense
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that Mississippi logic of peace
Bad people have firearms that are willing to commit heinous acts. Please tell me why a measure that allows teachers to fight back and protect children is a bad idea. The US government said they could not possibly find the 10-15 million illegals in the country, so what makes you think that the government stands any chance of confiscating the hundreds of millions of guns? Criminals do not follow laws. If you know that measles is about to make a comeback, wouldnt you take steps to protect yourself? You can choose not to carry to protect yourself if you want, but me? I'll be responsible for my own safety rather than hoping virtue signalling half measures convince a crazy not to open fire in public.

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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩

This graph can't be entirely accurate.

I lived in Connecticut for 13 years and there's no way all of Connecticut, and 80% of New England is deep red like that. A lot of those counties are suburbs and rural.
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I don't think forcing training on teachers is a good idea. Most of these liberal teachers can hardly deal with a classroom of kids do you really think they can handle a gun in a tense situation? BRB shooting the police as they enter the room.
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
location: Mississippi.


Not surprised at all.
Its cool man. Keeping your family pretty much helpless sounds like an amazing idea. 2.7 million deaths annually in the USA and 100k come from gun violence. That's 3% of the deaths per year are by guns. To put this into perspective, gun deaths arent even in the top 20 of annual deaths. This is no perfect plans by any means, but why would you purposely keep someone from having a fighting chance?
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
I don't think forcing training on teachers is a good idea. Most of these liberal teachers can hardly deal with a classroom of kids do you really think they can handle a gun in a tense situation? BRB shooting the police as they enter the room.
Forcing a teacher to train with a firearm is absolutely unconstitutional. Regular gun training teaches you to evaluate situations and make informed decisions. The best way to fight one sided gun violence is by evening the odds. Not putting up "gun free zone" signs (where 92% of all mass shootings occur) and implimenting state-wide gun control measures that dont effect criminals (where gun violence is most prevalent. the cities and states witht he strictest gun laws)
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Originally Posted By Cinderblock⏩
This graph can't be entirely accurate.

I lived in Connecticut for 13 years and there's no way all of Connecticut, and 80% of New England is deep red like that. A lot of those counties are suburbs and rural.
Rural in those areas means you have a couple of miles of forest. Rural over here means a couple hundred miles. Every population density map shows the same thing. East coast is packed in tighter by far.

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