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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
I object to some of your language in this post, but I will admit that it's typically the lower-IQ people who gravitate toward acting like stereotypes of their gender. They can't see beyond the peer pressure that immediately surrounds them, so they fall into fulfilling dumb roles. Monkey see, monkey do.Men and women are different, news at eleven.
It would be nice if we made more of an effort to understand each other instead of just automatically labeling the other person's way of thinking wrong. THe amount of miscers who call women retarded for liking magazines, Starbucks and shoes while also spending all their time fapping, playing video games and watching sports is just LOL to me.
None of those interests are particularly intellectual or enlightening but the female oriented ones are labelled retarded. Really, it's all retarded.
It would be nice if we made more of an effort to understand each other instead of just automatically labeling the other person's way of thinking wrong. THe amount of miscers who call women retarded for liking magazines, Starbucks and shoes while also spending all their time fapping, playing video games and watching sports is just LOL to me.
None of those interests are particularly intellectual or enlightening but the female oriented ones are labelled retarded. Really, it's all retarded.
People with higher IQs, from what I've observed, are also much more likely to pursue hobbies that aren't stereotypical. My father (Princeton graduate), for example, is a straight man who loves and is heavily involved in musical theater. [He's also a vegan AND a Republican, which I find funny].
Originally Posted By tim5p⏩
Sure, but speaking as a highly competitive woman, I don't think this phenomenon is limited to men. I know MANY women who also enjoy proving themselves against others in this way, or in other ways.I’d say probably because a team sport is a microcosm of our tribalistic beginnings. It’s inherent to prove yourself to your tribe through competition (past=evolutionary competition, present=Sanctioned competition). Speaking for men.
Originally Posted By Sanguivorant⏩
Thank you for correcting me (??) o mighty man who explains things. -_-That's a mistake. A lot of men also talk behind other's backs.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
You don't need a woman's consent to post a picture.Right, and men on this forum never talk behind the backs of people they know IRL, or, for example, post pictures of women they know without their consent and trash-talk them.
No, men are 100% straightforward all the time. lol.
No, men are 100% straightforward all the time. lol.
Once she sends you a picture you now own it. It's yours to do what you want.
If it's a picture she's posted publicly then again it's already something she's consented to.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
If someone sent me a picture privately, I would never repost it. You're arguing letter of the law rather than spirit of the law, and you are morally stunted.You don't need a woman's consent to post a picture.
Once she sends you a picture you now own it. It's yours to do what you want.
If it's a picture she's posted publicly then again it's already something she's consented to.
Once she sends you a picture you now own it. It's yours to do what you want.
If it's a picture she's posted publicly then again it's already something she's consented to.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
What dumb ass school did you go to that had girls and boys in different rooms for sex ed?My friend IRl was just saying that we ought to have coed sex education. That way, men can learn how the female reproductive system works (and after all, they're going to be dealing with one sooner or later if they're lucky...) and women can learn how the male one works (for the same reason).
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
https://www.hunterschools.org/page/e...school-welcomeWhat dumb ass school did you go to that had girls and boys in different rooms for sex ed?
Granted, I'm old af (30) so it was awhile ago.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
are you kidding? Yes, both sexes have both hormones, however in widely different levels which contributes greatly to behavior. I dumbfounded that a female doesn't believe her hormones contribute to her behavior.you do know that women have testosterone and men have estrogen too right? The hormonal differences between men and women IN NO WAY directly relate to every single one of our behaviors, like watching sports isn't just "because testosterone." That's hugely oversimplified.
Most of what you all claim is innate really isn't. Human beings are incredibly plastic in our potential behaviors, and a lot of the reasons we classify certain behaviors as "male" or "female" is because one of the things that IS innate in humans is our FIERCE need to conform to the group around us.
In short, if you behave like a bro stereotype, you're doing it to fit in. Likewise if you behave like a female stereotype as a woman.
Most of what you all claim is innate really isn't. Human beings are incredibly plastic in our potential behaviors, and a lot of the reasons we classify certain behaviors as "male" or "female" is because one of the things that IS innate in humans is our FIERCE need to conform to the group around us.
In short, if you behave like a bro stereotype, you're doing it to fit in. Likewise if you behave like a female stereotype as a woman.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
We both have traces of the other's hormone's for healthy biological function, but the difference between those hormones between the sexes is in multiples. Why the fuk would you think that wouldn't make a difference? Don't bring that all the same bs in here. Men on average have over 10x the testosterone of women. Hormones are so powerful that they alter how an individual behaves on a daily basis, their emotional state, there body composition. A slight increase in estrogen can give a guy tits, but you think it has nothing to do with the hobbies they may enjoy? Fuk outta here.you do know that women have testosterone and men have estrogen too right? The hormonal differences between men and women IN NO WAY directly relate to every single one of our behaviors, like watching sports isn't just "because testosterone." That's hugely oversimplified.
Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
I'm a year younger than you. I never knew separate sex education was a thing outside of all boys or all girls schools until your post srs.I'm back, bitches!
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Originally Posted By litljay⏩
I didn't say they don't contribute to our behaviors. I just said the hormone-behavior relationship is complex.are you kidding? Yes, both sexes have both hormones, however in widely different levels which contributes greatly to behavior. I dumbfounded that a female doesn't believe that her hormones do not contribute to her behavior.
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Normal female E -> 15-350
We cannot directly attribute "liking sports" to "testosterone." That's oversimplified. Much of the discourse around hormones is. (And genetics, for that matter. We act as if one gene can dictate some very specific behavior, and that's just not the case).
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ROFL. Men will never understand women and vice versa.
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02-22-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
30 isn't old lol da fukGranted, I'm old af (30) so it was awhile ago.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
Lmao. Sorry sweetheart, but science disagrees with you:you do know that women have testosterone and men have estrogen too right? The hormonal differences between men and women IN NO WAY directly relate to every single one of our behaviors, like watching sports isn't just "because testosterone." That's hugely oversimplified.
Most of what you all claim is innate really isn't. Human beings are incredibly plastic in our potential behaviors, and a lot of the reasons we classify certain behaviors as "male" or "female" is because one of the things that IS innate in humans is our FIERCE need to conform to the group around us.
In short, if you behave like a bro stereotype, you're doing it to fit in. Likewise if you behave like a female stereotype as a woman.
Most of what you all claim is innate really isn't. Human beings are incredibly plastic in our potential behaviors, and a lot of the reasons we classify certain behaviors as "male" or "female" is because one of the things that IS innate in humans is our FIERCE need to conform to the group around us.
In short, if you behave like a bro stereotype, you're doing it to fit in. Likewise if you behave like a female stereotype as a woman.
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
Wow, so no male author has ever successfully written a female character, and vice versa?ROFL. Men will never understand women and vice versa.
No man has ever had a successful, empathetic relationship with a woman (and vice versa)?
Originally Posted By EdDibb⏩
Biology is complex. You seem to treat humans like you'd treat rats--creatures with no capacity for self-realization beyond impulse. Actually, that's worse than rats. Rats are adaptable. Most male rats, for instance, do not care for infant rats; that's left to the females. SO you'd think their biology would make them incapable, right? But no; if you leave infant rats with a male rat, the male rat quickly adapts to caring for them, cuddling and feeding them, etc.Lmao. Biology not even once.
Gender and biology do not dictate our behavior, as if we were automatons ruled by rigid programming, but are rather always complexly interrelated with our environment and situation.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
This I was in coed sexed before she was even born.What dumb ass school did you go to that had girls and boys in different rooms for sex ed?
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Originally Posted By EdDibb⏩
"Sweetheart"? DafukouttahereLmao. Sorry sweetheart, but science disagrees with you:
Poorly designed study. In fact, even infants are subject to pressure to conform to gender stereotypes, so looking at the behavior of young children isn't particularly reflective of something innate. Humans are absolute sponges for social conformity cues.
You won't read this, but you should:
https://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gen.../dp/0393340244
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
In many ways, we are still animals and have primal impulses. MILLIONS of years of evolution will not be easily overriden by 60 years of stupid postmodernism.Wow, so no male author has ever successfully written a female character, and vice versa?
No man has ever had a successful, empathetic relationship with a woman (and vice versa)?
Biology is complex. You seem to treat humans like you'd treat rats--creatures with no capacity for self-realization beyond impulse. Actually, that's worse than rats. Rats are adaptable. Most male rats, for instance, do not care for infant rats; that's left to the females. SO you'd think their biology would make them incapable, right? But no; if you leave infant rats with a male rat, the male rat quickly adapts to caring for them, cuddling and feeding them, etc.
Gender and biology do not dictate our behavior, as if we were automatons ruled by rigid programming, but are rather always complexly interrelated with our environment and situation.
No man has ever had a successful, empathetic relationship with a woman (and vice versa)?
Biology is complex. You seem to treat humans like you'd treat rats--creatures with no capacity for self-realization beyond impulse. Actually, that's worse than rats. Rats are adaptable. Most male rats, for instance, do not care for infant rats; that's left to the females. SO you'd think their biology would make them incapable, right? But no; if you leave infant rats with a male rat, the male rat quickly adapts to caring for them, cuddling and feeding them, etc.
Gender and biology do not dictate our behavior, as if we were automatons ruled by rigid programming, but are rather always complexly interrelated with our environment and situation.
Just watch the video I posted and never again preach liberal nonsense, please.
02-22-2018, 08:58 AM
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Am I reading Shesprints right by her saying science is flexible due to freewill? Lol
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02-22-2018, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
I like you a lot"Sweetheart"? Dafukouttahere
Poorly designed study. In fact, even infants are subject to pressure to conform to gender stereotypes, so looking at the behavior of young children isn't particularly reflective of something innate. Humans are absolute sponges for social conformity cues.
You won't read this, but you should:
https://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gen.../dp/0393340244
Poorly designed study. In fact, even infants are subject to pressure to conform to gender stereotypes, so looking at the behavior of young children isn't particularly reflective of something innate. Humans are absolute sponges for social conformity cues.
You won't read this, but you should:
https://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gen.../dp/0393340244
But this gender bullchit is just that gender bullchit
We are, along a spectrum, different ..some more so than others
Trying to blend the genders just because it meets a social agenda is ridiculous
That said, I’ve got to go to the gym and lift chit ..so I’ll be not be responding immediately
02-22-2018, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
The level of ****get and cuck in this post is off the charts.I try to understand men because I think men and women are mean to be harmonious and not adversarial.
This morning I was appalled at how little some men knew about very basic things about women.
Then I thought that I probably have areas of ignorance I am clueless about men about.
So I may not even know what I don't know. But here is what I know I don't know.
Please inform me.
1. How men can watch so many hours of sports in one stretch. 4 hrs max for me.
2. Why there isn't more education on how to control your penis. We have info galore on what to do in a bear or shark attack. So many men have issues with cheating or fapping or ed or quick or too long ejaculation but it seems like everything available to you is a pill or broscience. Seems unfair.
3. Why do men bully their friends? The language seems aggressive. I know men report feeling lonely, which is one reason they love women, because they can be more vulnerable without the judgement.
4. Some men make fun of women for their differences - weak, emotional, unambituous. But when these same men see a woman who is strong, logical and ambitious, she is also ridiculed for having those qualities. Do you think men know what they want? Or are they as paradoxical as women?
TLDR: Need a dictionary, boring, OP clueless about men
This morning I was appalled at how little some men knew about very basic things about women.
Then I thought that I probably have areas of ignorance I am clueless about men about.
So I may not even know what I don't know. But here is what I know I don't know.
Please inform me.
1. How men can watch so many hours of sports in one stretch. 4 hrs max for me.
2. Why there isn't more education on how to control your penis. We have info galore on what to do in a bear or shark attack. So many men have issues with cheating or fapping or ed or quick or too long ejaculation but it seems like everything available to you is a pill or broscience. Seems unfair.
3. Why do men bully their friends? The language seems aggressive. I know men report feeling lonely, which is one reason they love women, because they can be more vulnerable without the judgement.
4. Some men make fun of women for their differences - weak, emotional, unambituous. But when these same men see a woman who is strong, logical and ambitious, she is also ridiculed for having those qualities. Do you think men know what they want? Or are they as paradoxical as women?
TLDR: Need a dictionary, boring, OP clueless about men
The level of feminist retard is off the charts in this thread.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
"Neurosexism""Sweetheart"? Dafukouttahere
Poorly designed study. In fact, even infants are subject to pressure to conform to gender stereotypes, so looking at the behavior of young children isn't particularly reflective of something innate. Humans are absolute sponges for social conformity cues.
You won't read this, but you should:
https://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gen.../dp/0393340244
Poorly designed study. In fact, even infants are subject to pressure to conform to gender stereotypes, so looking at the behavior of young children isn't particularly reflective of something innate. Humans are absolute sponges for social conformity cues.
You won't read this, but you should:
https://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gen.../dp/0393340244
I'll pass.
Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Repped for being sane.I like you a lot
But this gender bullchit is just that gender bullchit
We are, along a spectrum, different ..some more so than others
Trying to blend the genders just because it meets a social agenda is ridiculous
That said, I’ve got to go to the gym and lift chit ..so I’ll be not be responding immediately
But this gender bullchit is just that gender bullchit
We are, along a spectrum, different ..some more so than others
Trying to blend the genders just because it meets a social agenda is ridiculous
That said, I’ve got to go to the gym and lift chit ..so I’ll be not be responding immediately
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I went to a very expensive, yuppy liberal prep school and even we didn't have coed sex ed. Different rooms. We had one final lesson together but it was uncomfortable as phuck and they didn't do it again the next year. We were like...eleven though.What dumb ass school did you go to that had girls and boys in different rooms for sex ed?
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
This is patently false. She is giving you permission to view it, not giving you permission to share it with others. I mean wtf.You don't need a woman's consent to post a picture.
Once she sends you a picture you now own it. It's yours to do what you want.
If it's a picture she's posted publicly then again it's already something she's consented to.
Once she sends you a picture you now own it. It's yours to do what you want.
If it's a picture she's posted publicly then again it's already something she's consented to.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
1. because we played sports. also because its a way for bros to bond in a non-homophobic way1. How men can watch so many hours of sports in one stretch. 4 hrs max for me.
2. Why there isn't more education on how to control your penis. We have info galore on what to do in a bear or shark attack. So many men have issues with cheating or fapping or ed or quick or too long ejaculation but it seems like everything available to you is a pill or broscience. Seems unfair.
3. Why do men bully their friends? The language seems aggressive. I know men report feeling lonely, which is one reason they love women, because they can be more vulnerable without the judgement.
4. Some men make fun of women for their differences - weak, emotional, unambituous. But when these same men see a woman who is strong, logical and ambitious, she is also ridiculed for having those qualities. Do you think men know what they want? Or are they as paradoxical as women?
TLDR: Need a dictionary, boring, OP clueless about men
2. Why there isn't more education on how to control your penis. We have info galore on what to do in a bear or shark attack. So many men have issues with cheating or fapping or ed or quick or too long ejaculation but it seems like everything available to you is a pill or broscience. Seems unfair.
3. Why do men bully their friends? The language seems aggressive. I know men report feeling lonely, which is one reason they love women, because they can be more vulnerable without the judgement.
4. Some men make fun of women for their differences - weak, emotional, unambituous. But when these same men see a woman who is strong, logical and ambitious, she is also ridiculed for having those qualities. Do you think men know what they want? Or are they as paradoxical as women?
TLDR: Need a dictionary, boring, OP clueless about men
2. because you cant talk a dik in to not fukking things. it doesnt work like that.
3. because deep down we do it to hide our vulnerability and insecurity
4. because sometimes its only in good fun & other times is to maintain distinct & traditional gender roles
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
have you seen demolition man3. Why do men bully their friends? The language seems aggressive. I know men report feeling lonely, which is one reason they love women, because they can be more vulnerable without the judgement.
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Originally Posted By EdDibb⏩
I'll finish watching it later--I need to get to the gym.In many ways, we are still animals and have primal impulses. MILLIONS of years of evolution will not be easily overriden by 60 years of stupid postmodernism.
Just watch the video I posted and never again preach liberal nonsense, please.
Just watch the video I posted and never again preach liberal nonsense, please.
I think it is a real problem that we are so adversarial about this. I typically hear mostly men discussing innate gender difference with real passion. Women want to deny it. At this point I want to discuss what stakes we each have here. men, I think, want to protect the status quo (their higher status, tbh). Women want to take some power for themselves by claiming they have much of the same potential men have. In that sense, it's a power struggle, and the truth can become captive to agendas.
I try to maintain some degree of remove from these biases, but of course it's not entirely possible. I want to note here that I've never rejected the idea of differences between gender. It's obvious they are there. I just think there are not as many mental differences as we presume, nor are the mental differences so rigid. I base this on both experimental data and personal experience as an educator.
Physically, there are obviously differences between men and women, which is one reason why I definitely think we need both men's and women's sports in competition. But mentally, I think it's murkier. That's all. I think we most often stop at the level of what an old philosophy professor of mine called "folk psychology"--that is, things we consider "common sense" but have no true foundation.
Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
No you are not.Am I reading Shesprints right by her saying science is flexible due to freewill? Lol
I'm saying that science--the proper practice of science--MEANS allowing for flexibility and skepticism. Science is not a rigid thing, it's a practice that involves constantly testing assumptions.
You can call my skepticism "liberal nonsense," but that's just another symptom of the larger problem, which is the tendency to regress to labels and name-calling instead of rational debate.
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
That is fukkin weird. Just a simple, country ass public school and in 6th grade we're all watching a chick give birth. Fun times.I went to a very expensive, yuppy liberal prep school and even we didn't have coed sex ed. Different rooms. We had one final lesson together but it was uncomfortable as phuck and they didn't do it again the next year. We were like...eleven though.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I didn't see this until my per-requisites for medical school in college. I nearly passed out. Fukkin' groce dude, I want a C-section.That is fukkin weird. Just a simple, country ass public school and in 6th grade we're all watching a chick give birth. Fun times.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
The kind of man who enjoys sports and enjoys watching them tends to have a competitive streak that is satisfied by watching competition in sports. During my workout today, between sets, I watched some kind of skating competition (Olympics) - I didn't even understand it really, but felt my pulse quicken as they came down to the finish line, and the winner skated over to the corner jumping up to kiss someone. It's that kind of 'joy of victory, agony of defeat' - and it can be both very pleasurable and addictive.1. How men can watch so many hours of sports in one stretch. 4 hrs max for me.
Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
There are some things in life that you can really only learn through 'doing'. Do you think any amount of reading would teach some guy (who never fapped) to be able to hold back ejaculation if he lost his virginity when he was 20? The answer is no. It's like when guys ejaculate quickly the first few times they are with a woman and then they can hold back much longer - ejaculating at will at some point.2. Why there isn't more education on how to control your penis. We have info galore on what to do in a bear or shark attack. So many men have issues with cheating or fapping or ed or quick or too long ejaculation but it seems like everything available to you is a pill or broscience. Seems unfair.
Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
This is a bit vague. If you really mean 'bullying', the two are not friends. If you mean 'rough with each other' - that's part of being a man, and something you already learn from primary school onward. I'm best friends with people I either beat up when I was younger or was beaten up by them - and we can be rough especially if we are out having a drink or something. It's an expression of friendship - it's the sort of 'brahdom' that some women find so annoying because, deep down, those specific women desire that so deeply but don't have it, and/or feel like they'll never get it.3. Why do men bully their friends? The language seems aggressive. I know men report feeling lonely, which is one reason they love women, because they can be more vulnerable without the judgement.
Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
I think the type of man you describe here is - simply put - an idiot. A real man knows what he wants, but the kind of person you describe is an insecure manchild, not fit for the 'man' moniker.4. Some men make fun of women for their differences - weak, emotional, unambituous. But when these same men see a woman who is strong, logical and ambitious, she is also ridiculed for having those qualities. Do you think men know what they want? Or are they as paradoxical as women?
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