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post 1549053131 04-13-2018, 11:02 PM
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Not saying the UK didn't but why won't Russia release this irrefutable evidence?
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Im going to be a 100% honest.

While my views are mostly conservative I did multiple times tell my family and friends I could see Trump starting WW3 because hes a narcissistic ego maniac. Theres no denying that. And if theres even a 1% chance of it because of him id rather him not be in office. Hillary was worse though. The pickings were just chitty.
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^^^^ strong fake news source
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Originally Posted By tank2003
truth. 3 weeks ago i would have argued against this but when trump said he was pulling out of syria and guarding the US-Mexico border then the next day...Boom...gas attack and the dfay after his lawyer's door gets kicked in....yeah that is no coincidence


Russia Has "Irrefutable Evidence" UK Staged Syrian Chemical Attack
the 'gas attack' was predicted when US said it was 'pulling out', plus there's a lot of other dodgy chit surrounding it

plus simple logic - US pulling out is good for them, why launch a gas attack to get them to stay?
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there have been plans to invade syria since the early 1980s. A simple google search will prove just that.


When will american men stop dying for Israeli interests?
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Originally Posted By imbored205
Military brahs, can we confirm? Bombing run from the air or cruise missiles?
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Originally Posted By Brozart
the 'gas attack' was predicted when US said it was 'pulling out', plus there's a lot of other dodgy chit surrounding it

plus simple logic - US pulling out is good for them, why launch a gas attack to get them to stay?
This. Its just propoganda to keep us there and fighting a war that we have no part in.
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Can't the US and uk and whoever the f* else just f* off from the rest of the world? Let the middle easterns solve their problems and stop adding fuel to the fire.

Edit: inb4 gas attack turns out to be as true as saddams nukes. Or irans nukes.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee
Im going to be a 100% honest.

While my views are mostly conservative I did multiple times tell my family and friends I could see Trump starting WW3 because hes a narcissistic ego maniac. Theres no denying that. And if theres even a 1% chance of it because of him id rather him not be in office. Hillary was worse though. The pickings were just chitty.
the problem with the election is we dont elect based on qualifications. In 2008 and 2012 we elected purely on identity politics. How else did obama win over Hillary? She was way more qualified and she hadnt yet been exposed as a soulless witch who jumps on whatever leftist bandwagon is happening at the time. But we dodged an EVEN bigger bullet with trump in 2016. Hillary started the whole "Russia hack" nonsense to cope with losing debates and the electoral college and there is stillZEROproof of it. She even said that as POTUS, she would take it as an act of war and respond accordingly. She was 100% ok with a war against russia DESPITE GIVING (not selling) them 20% of America's enriched uranium for illegal kickbacks to her foundation. She was totally fine with that then waging war on them. I fully believe she also would have nuked NK the first month of her presidency too. Korea would be an island right now
Originally Posted By Brozart
the 'gas attack' was predicted when US said it was 'pulling out', plus there's a lot of other dodgy chit surrounding it

plus simple logic - US pulling out is good for them, why launch a gas attack to get them to stay?
No kidding. Ive heard Israel did it to keep us there because no one else supports them (but its not like we would leave the ME all together). Also heard that ISIS fighters left their german made Sarin gas containers at their abandoned posts. Now i see that UK did it which kind of makes sense seeing as how the UK immediately said somethign needed to be done about it
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
This. Its just propoganda to keep us there and fighting a war that we have no part in.
that's the thing man, it's tough to avoid having a part in a war you create
Originally Posted By tank2003
No kidding. Ive heard Israel did it to keep us there because no one else supports them (but its not like we would leave the ME all together). Also heard that ISIS fighters left their german made Sarin gas containers at their abandoned posts. Now i see that UK did it which kind of makes sense seeing as how the UK immediately said somethign needed to be done about it
it's all an act man

just lol @ anyone who believes the 'we have to invade syria because they're using chemical weapons on their citizens'. so? since when do rich, powerful countries give a fuk about poor people, or any other country, really? governments in chitty countries all over the world are fukking their citizens all the time, or allowing them to be fukt, or they're fukking each other, and no one gives a fuk unless it's a convenient excuse to carry out an existing plan. and if there's no excuse, fuk it, make one. every single time people are fed these excuses for going to 'war', it seems strange at first, and afterwards is proven to be false, but people just keep falling for it.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee
This. Wer not going to line up across from each other in trenches shooting m16s

Itll be like this but much much worse

That's not what I meant by my post.

Is there a credible nuclear threat? Absolutely. From China. I honestly believe that given the shoddy state mechanically the large majority of Russia's military, I'd be comfortable saying that 50% of their nuclear arsenal is inoperable in 2018. North Korea would be lucky to have a nuclear weapon capable of hitting Japan. Pakistan, who knows, but India has been waiting to annihilate Pakistan out of existence for decades, so they'll likely have them out of the picture before anything can happen.

Just my thoughts on this, but I feel if the trigger did get pulled, it would be a fairly one sided affair in favour of the West
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Originally Posted By Brozart
that's the thing man, it's tough to avoid having a part in a war you create



it's all an act man

just lol @ anyone who believes the 'we have to invade syria because they're using chemical weapons on their citizens'. so? since when do rich, powerful countries give a fuk about poor people, or any other country, really? governments in chitty countries all over the world are fukking their citizens all the time, or allowing them to be fukt, or they're fukking each other, and no one gives a fuk unless it's a convenient excuse to carry out an existing plan. and if there's no excuse, fuk it, make one. every single time people are fed these excuses for going to 'war', it seems strange at first, and afterwards is proven to be false, but people just keep falling for it.
Its israeli propoganda. Thats all it is and they have our country by the balls. AIPAC is one of our biggest lobbies and its the only foreign lobby that isnt excluded from our no foreign government interference law. People talk about collusion with russia yet nobody acknowledges that they've been controlling our foreign policy and advocating for war in the middle east for decades. We need to let them fend for themselves, stop funding them and get the fukk out of the middle east and start defend our border. They own our politicians and it needs to end.
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Originally Posted By Brozart
that's the thing man, it's tough to avoid having a part in a war you create



it's all an act man

just lol @ anyone who believes the 'we have to invade syria because they're using chemical weapons on their citizens'. so? since when do rich, powerful countries give a fuk about poor people, or any other country, really? governments in chitty countries all over the world are fukking their citizens all the time, or allowing them to be fukt, or they're fukking each other, and no one gives a fuk unless it's a convenient excuse to carry out an existing plan. and if there's no excuse, fuk it, make one. every single time people are fed these excuses for going to 'war', it seems strange at first, and afterwards is proven to be false, but people just keep falling for it.
god damnit...if we want tp punish syria so badly, why cant we just send hillary to speak about why she lost?
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Originally Posted By SmAshmoto
I honestly believe that given the shoddy state mechanically the large majority of Russia's military, I'd be comfortable saying that 50% of their nuclear arsenal is inoperable in 2018.
http://theweek.com/articles/533721/d...uclear-arsenal

read a great article about it a while back but can't find it. basically using nukes is a massive gamble, due to the state of disrepair
Originally Posted By deadhead6391
Its israeli propoganda. Thats all it is and they have our country by the balls. AIPAC is one of our biggest lobbies and its the only foreign lobby that isnt excluded from our no foreign government interference law. People talk about collusion with russia yet nobody acknowledges that they've been controlling our foreign policy and advocating for war in the middle east for decades. We need to let them fend for themselves, stop funding them and get the fukk out of the middle east and start defend our border. They own our politicians and it needs to end.
runs deeper than that boyo. sadly, every time you think you've figured out how corrupt these fukkers are, a while later you find another layer.
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I feel bad for Assad, but I guess once youknowwho decides you're out, you're out.
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Originally Posted By Brozart
http://theweek.com/articles/533721/d...uclear-arsenal

read a great article about it a while back but can't find it. basically using nukes is a massive gamble, due to the state of disrepair



runs deeper than that boyo. sadly, every time you think you've figured out how corrupt these fukkers are, a while later you find another layer.
Trust me i know it goes much deeper. Thats a conversation for a different day though.
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Originally Posted By wudberry
I feel bad for Assad, but I guess once youknowwho decides you're out, you're out.
Assad is probably fine.

John Bolton wants to bypass Syria and go straight for regime change in Iran.
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btw we have now come FULL CIRCLE. This first started with your basic color revolution to oust him. Then when that didn't work, it morphed into armed conflict. Then the first 'gas attacks' took place, and Obama drew the Red Line. But back then, Obama decided to stick with Congress and decided not to go to war, in spite of his 'red line' bluster. We were kind of lucky to have Obama, instead of some war hawk like McCain or Hillary back then. Anyway, after direct military confrontation become a non-option, a nascent rebel group mysteriously rose to gain incredible amounts of territory, aka ISIS. I firmly believe ISIS was a sort of 'controlled fire' to direct against Assad. We are expected to believe that the might of US airpower couldn't do jack shiet against large, mobile formations openly taking territory. ISIS, combined with 'moderate rebels' provided a few years of indirect targeting of Assad. They still couldn't get him because of combined Russian and Iranian aid. Assad finally regains most of his lost territory. And that's where we arrive at the starting point of the circle again. They couldn't get him with the Arab Spring movement, couldn't get him in 2013, couldn't get him with ISIS and the 'moderate rebels', so this is round 4. More inexplicable gas attacks from a man who had basically 'won'.
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What an absolute joke. Was supportive of Trump from the start, not any more, and I'm not even American. Fk off with your stupid wars.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee
Im going to be a 100% honest.

While my views are mostly conservative I did multiple times tell my family and friends I could see Trump starting WW3 because hes a narcissistic ego maniac. Theres no denying that. And if theres even a 1% chance of it because of him id rather him not be in office. Hillary was worse though. The pickings were just chitty.
I specifically remember thinking during the election that Hillary was dead set on conflict with Russia. If i remember right she basically announced it during the debates. Trump was more reserved in his stance from what i remember. Ultimately i don't think the President is pulling the strings. I've said for almost a decade now that there is an East vs. West banking crisis in our midst, and that is at the core of all this middle east BS.

As long as the USA can force other nations to take our worthless money things will be semi stable here at home. Unfortunately cracks are beginning to form and large nations (Russia, China, India, Iran, etc) are moving their chess pieces. If western banking gets usurped ... there goes about 500 years of world dominance. Which is absolutely not something the elites (commoners too) want to allow. So they will invade, false flag, spy, puppet leader, and manipulate anyone and anything to maintain their power.

With the internet and global communication ... I question whether the common people of 1st world have the stomach for anything resembling WW3. I think most people would rather be left alone to enjoy playing their PS3 + beer + porn + movies.
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Originally Posted By JewSeeJohn
I don't think that many of you fully appreciate the seriousness of this whole situation.

A war between NATO and Russia,Iran and china would have disastrous consequences.
That’s why it won’t hapoen

Nobody can stand toe to toe with America, and if it goes nuclear we all lose

Nobody is unhinged enough for that
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Originally Posted By JewSeeJohn
I don't think that many of you fully appreciate the seriousness of this whole situation.

A war between NATO and Russia,Iran and china would have disastrous consequences.
But weren't there missile strikes against Syria last year too? What makes this time different?
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It's about time we had a real leader with balls who stood up to the red lines he set, who stood up to tyrants and dictators and threats, who aint scared of no man, and who acts when it's time to act.

Americans are so damn used to bumbling dizzy idiot cowards as leaders that they don't know how to act now.
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didnt the russian foreign minister say the russian state has proof the chemical attack was a false flag attack?

didnt the military stock shares get higher as soon as trump was elected in 2016 and kept rising?
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
didnt the military stock shares get higher as soon as trump was elected in 2016 and kept rising?
Tempted to neg this garbage.

Of course military stock shares would rise under a right wing government. Defence is always held in high regard by right wing governments, alongside finance, big business and trade. Where the left will usually shrink defence spending in favour of education, health, social issues etc.

To try and parlay that fact as some sort of tinfoil hat conspiracy is utter garbage.
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Originally Posted By SmAshmoto
Tempted to neg this garbage.

Of course military stock shares would rise under a right wing government. Defence is always held in high regard by right wing governments, alongside finance, big business and trade. Where the left will usually shrink defence spending in favour of education, health, social issues etc.

To try and parlay that fact as some sort of tinfoil hat conspiracy is utter garbage.
i like how you disregarded my first point.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar
That’s why it won’t hapoen

Nobody can stand toe to toe with America, and if it goes nuclear we all lose

Nobody is unhinged enough for that
war HAS to happen.

Either you want to believe it or not, doesnt change a thing. America wont see it coming
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