Golden State killer finally caught decades after his crimes thanks to ancestry DNA

04-26-2018, 05:37 PM

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Golden State killer finally caught decades after his crimes thanks to ancestry DNA

DeAngelo is accused of 45 rapes and 15 murders.

Sacramento County District Attorney's officials confirmed the reports and told ABC7 News that their investigation is ongoing and they will not be giving further information on the DNA at this time.

Ancestry websites 23andMe and Ancestry.com released statements on the findings, saying mainly that they do not know if their services aided in the arrest of DeAngelo.

Here is the full statement from 23andMe: We have not received inquiries regarding this case. Broadly speaking it's our policy to resist any law enforcement inquiries with all legal and practical means at our disposal. We have had a handful of inquiries over the years, and have never given customer information to law enforcement officials.

We don't know how California police identified this person, but it wasn't through our database. We didn't work with law enforcement on this case, they didn't contact us.

Here is the full statement from Ancestry.com: Ancestry advocates for its members' privacy and will not share any information with law enforcement unless compelled to by valid legal process, such as a court order or search warrant. Additionally, we publish law enforcement requests in our transparency report annually. It's important to note that in all of 2015, 2016, and 2017 we received no valid legal requests for genetic information.

At this point, DeAngelo has only been charged for two counts of murder for the death of a Sacramento area couple in 1978, but police promise more charges.

04-26-2018, 05:38 PM

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the reaper is the real killer here

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04-26-2018, 05:41 PM

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He looks way older than the sketch.

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04-26-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum⏩

He looks way older than the sketch.

Originally Posted By RussellJimenez⏩

the reaper is the real killer here

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04-26-2018, 05:43 PM

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this thrad got deleted yesterday for some reason.

dude was living down the street from me for years.

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wow thats kinda wild

04-26-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

so whats going on here? are we saying ancestry and 23andme are full of chit and they really aided authorities but are claiming they didn't in fear of public backlash? also are we assuming that this killer once sent in his dna to be tested which fukked him?

idk about the 23andme stuff, but here's some more details. They basically gather puzzle pieces and create a profile, and eventually there's enough overlap to attribute to him, I guess.

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People who willingly give their DNA and money to a company without reading fine print are legit stupid. lmaoo

04-26-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩

this thrad got deleted yesterday for some reason.

dude was living down the street from me for years.

We all know why

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04-26-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

thanks dude, i gotta watch this, this is wild.

np. I'm glad they caught this fool. He looks so scared in that pic lol

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04-26-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer⏩

People who willingly give their DNA and money to a company without reading fine print are legit stupid. lmaoo

This, definitely never using ancestry again.

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04-26-2018, 06:02 PM

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im confused. did ancestry give up his info or is big brother just monitoring all that sht without permission.

i have a 23 and me kit sitting in my room. having second thoughts about sending it in.

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04-26-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum⏩

This, definitely never using ancestry again.

so your saying you've used it before? rofl

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04-26-2018, 06:05 PM

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rip genealogy websites

anyone with some sense would think twice before volunteering their dna for a national database.. even having a family member that uses it could connect your dna to you

if they previously found dna and couldnt match it in their database, it was basically used as a confirmation tool, not a deductive one.

now if they find your dna they can run it against these genealogy sites and trace your dna to a family member... no thx

04-26-2018, 06:08 PM

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04-26-2018, 06:21 PM

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unless i'm unaware of some recent legislation i'm pretty sure its illegal as **** for law enforcement to use genetic testing websites like that
no way they would make such a high profile arrest on 100% inadmissible evidence

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04-26-2018, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted By Bassackwards⏩

so your saying you've used it before? rofl

I only gave them 1 dna sample.

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04-26-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩

this thrad got deleted yesterday for some reason.

dude was living down the street from me for years.

holy fuk. Did you know him?

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04-26-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted By sdmk⏩

unless i'm unaware of some recent legislation i'm pretty sure its illegal as **** for law enforcement to use genetic testing websites like that
no way they would make such a high profile arrest on 100% inadmissible evidence

You sign away the rights to your DNA to a private business, it's a normal business not a doctors office so it is admissible.

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Originally Posted By meenman83⏩

You sign away the rights to your DNA to a private business, it's a normal business not a doctors office so it is admissible.

but if 23andme/ancestry are telling the truth law enforcement never got a warrant to use their data
it sounds like they just sent in a DNA sample and used the DNA Relatives tool to find his daughter

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04-26-2018, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted By seven11⏩

holy fuk. Did you know him?

Not personally, but many people here know about the Night Stalker (there was 2 but he's the original).

He lived down a main street from me, literally half a mile from where I grew up.

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Why would he suddenly stop killing and raping in 1986? Don't sickos like this just continue indefinitely until they get caught or die?

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Don’t know details but everyone is assuming police accessed info regarding his DNA. I’m having trouble thinking about how he was connected through a family tree etc without analyzing DNA though.

THEN he was caught and compared to a previous sample.

Can anyone think of ways a family tree could be connected to him? Maybe his rape victim had a baby, and the kid matched to a family member of his and wondered why?...

Edit: the more I think about it, a cop could send a fake profile in with his DNA and see who matches. Is that illegal? They aren’t accessing the database the same way you would expect.

And before you ask, he didn’t kill all the victims. Haven’t read anything about babies though.
And if DeAngelo is the killer — police say his DNA proves that he is — then he fit these 45 suspected rapes and 12 suspected murders into an astonishing double life. He was a Vietnam War veteran before the spree, a police officer during the spree, and then a husband, father and grandfather who lived quietly among the same communities that the Golden State Killer had terrorized.

Double edit: if any of his kin were arrested and entered into the California DNA database, they would match then it could lead to him.

Triple edit: even if they didn’t know of any impregnated victims initially, he may have raped (and impregnated) more that never came forward. At which point they do the DNA test, match and then come forward.

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Originally Posted By blindsideflank⏩

Don’t know details but everyone is assuming police accessed info regarding his DNA. I’m having trouble thinking about how he was connected through a family tree etc without analyzing DNA though.

THEN he was caught and compared to a previous sample.

Can anyone think of ways a family tree could be connected to him? Maybe his rape victim had a baby, and the kid matched to a family member of his and wondered why?...

Edit: the more I think about it, a cop could send a fake profile in with his DNA and see who matches. Is that illegal? They aren’t accessing the database the same way you would expect.

And before you ask, he didn’t kill all the victims. Haven’t read anything about babies though.
And if DeAngelo is the killer — police say his DNA proves that he is — then he fit these 45 suspected rapes and 12 suspected murders into an astonishing double life. He was a Vietnam War veteran before the spree, a police officer during the spree, and then a husband, father and grandfather who lived quietly among the same communities that the Golden State Killer had terrorized.

This article says the police started monitoring him and collected his DNA from items he discarded at his home. They haven't given details on how DNA from 2 cold cases led to him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/u...-deangelo.html

Originally Posted By Groce⏩

Why would he suddenly stop killing and raping in 1986? Don't sickos like this just continue indefinitely until they get caught or die?

No clue, maybe he did more that weren't tied to him. The fuker had a career at Save Mart this whole time. Crazy

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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩

this thrad got deleted yesterday for some reason.

dude was living down the street from me for years.

Mods deleted it for some reason. They'll probably delete this one too.

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His patience, reconnaissance and ability to escape manhunts, as well as the intricate knots he used to bind victims, led detectives to believe he had served in the military or in law enforcement. Mr. DeAngelo did both.

Police should submit DNA upon hiring (or previous to). Maybe they do now.