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post 1559160271 08-19-2018, 11:26 AM
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Chicago Police Left A "Bait Truck" Full Of Nikes To Lure Thieves (vid)

post 1559160641 08-19-2018, 11:32 AM
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Seems like a strange thing to do. Chicago police department not busy enough?

Brb let's leave a truck full of money around poor people and see if they take it. Then let's give them a criminal record, ruining their chances at future employment.
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They could park that truck in my town north of Chicago and people would call the cops to have it towed away.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
Seems like a strange thing to do.
Setting up bait? Cops have been doing this for years all over.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
Seems like a strange thing to do. Chicago police department not busy enough?

Brb let's leave a truck full of money around poor people and see if they take it. Then let's give them a criminal record, ruining their chances at future employment.
Seems like a rather efficient way to catch some criminals tbh. Much less man hours and effort than watching tapes and conducting interviews that lead to a dead end. Which leads me to my next point....

83% of murders are unsolved because nobody talks to the police. "Snitches get stitches mentality"... it has nothing to do with the lack of effort from CPD.

you think the people likely to steal from this van are first time offenders? Law abiding citizens? Did you even watch the video? They were hoping to lure in the thieves that were stealing ammunition from the railroad nearby, I doubt these are your law biding, good samaritans. Where do you think this stolen ammunition is going?

You couldn't pay me enough to try and police these neighborhoods like Englewood. It's a lost cause.
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Leave a box of donuts outside the police station
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Originally Posted By TMaC828
Seems like a rather efficient way to catch some criminals tbh. Much less man hours and effort than watching tapes and conducting interviews that lead to a dead end. Which leads me to my next point....

83% of murders are unsolved because nobody talks to the police. "Snitches get stitches mentality"... it has nothing to do with the lack of effort from CPD.

you think the people likely to steal from this van are first time offenders? Law abiding citizens? Did you even watch the video? They were hoping to lure in the thieves that were stealing ammunition from the railroad nearby, I doubt these are your law biding, good samaritans. Where do you think this stolen ammunition is going?

You couldn't pay me enough to try and police these neighborhoods like Englewood. It's a lost cause.
why not just have surveillance and security for the sites being robbed? you gonna arrest some 12 year old because he wants shoes?
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Steal
Get caught
Say it doesn't count as stealing

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Originally Posted By PlzStop
entrapment
Unfortunately the pieces of chit will probably get off for that reason...
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen
Setting up bait? Cops have been doing this for years all over.
Hence, entrapment laws.
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LOL, beyond stupid.

Next the cops will start a BBQ right next to a homeless soup kitchen and walk away for 5 min and when the homeless go for it they'll arrest them.
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wonder how much a truck of nikes cost
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Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
Hence, entrapment laws.
But if they weren’t trash people that steal then they could just leave the trucks and no one would take a thing...entrapment laws like this is basically saying these people are too stupid to not break the law.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
Seems like a strange thing to do. Chicago police department not busy enough?

Brb let's leave a truck full of money around poor people and see if they take it. Then let's give them a criminal record, ruining their chances at future employment.
There are two methods of policing.

1. Reactive. Which means you do nothing until someone commits a crime. Then you investigate, attempt to identify, and attempt to apprehend the suspect. In a case of theft its 50-50 whether the property is recovered.


2. Proactive. Which means you identify a problem crime. Identify an area where its repeatedly occurring. Then make an effort to catch people in the act of committing that crime.








Guarantee you if they went through the trouble/effort of doing a bait truck operation they've had at least 25K+ worth of property/merchandise stolen in this manner or a similar manner, routinely and it prompted a more in-depth strategy instead of just saying fukk it and documenting these incidents over and over again.
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Originally Posted By T-mac
LOL, beyond stupid.

Next the cops will start a BBQ right next to a homeless soup kitchen and walk away for 5 min and when the homeless go for it they'll arrest them.
Then the homeless will actually have a roof over their heads
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Originally Posted By T-mac
LOL, beyond stupid.

Next the cops will start a BBQ right next to a homeless soup kitchen and walk away for 5 min and when the homeless go for it they'll arrest them.
If only there was a substantial difference between food and sports shoes. The bait truck was intended to catch people who were stealing cargo from trains or some ****.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
why not just have surveillance and security for the sites being robbed? you gonna arrest some 12 year old because he wants shoes?
Lold at sayin they arrested people for wanting shoes. They arrested people forstealingshoes. Why should we care who put the truck there? I’d much rather capture the kind of people who will seize an opportunity to steal before they get that opportunity against an innocent civilian. How far does the victim mentality go? “Well yeah I stole that guy’s bike but he shouldn’t have just left it outside he store to tempt me”. That’s just weak as hell. Don’t want to get charged for stealing? Don’t steal. We have to get out of the mindset of saying certain people shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions because they’re too weak-minded to avoid making mistakes.
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Originally Posted By guest89
There are two methods of policing.

1. Reactive. Which means you do nothing until someone commits a crime. Then you investigate, attempt to identify, and attempt to apprehend the suspect. In a case of theft its 50-50 whether the property is recovered.


2. Proactive. Which means you identify a problem crime. Identify an area where its repeatedly occurring. Then make an effort to catch people in the act of committing that crime.








Guarantee you if they went through the trouble/effort of doing a bait truck operation they've had at least 25K+ worth of property/merchandise stolen in this manner or a similar manner, routinely and it prompted a more in-depth strategy instead of just saying fukk it and documenting these incidents over and over again.
Policing in itself is reactive you fool
Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
Seems like a strange thing to do. Chicago police department not busy enough?

Brb let's leave a truck full of money around poor people and see if they take it. Then let's give them a criminal record, ruining their chances at future employment.
lmfao exactly, idiot socialists who don't know how to effectively manage funds, nike shoes payed for by tax dollars lmfao. Resources are scarce, rather than spending funds to ruin lives and catch people (There will always be people willing to steal in poor communities), funds should be spent on building more educated communities.

You don't combat crime through reactionary solutions- this is idiotic, same with drug use. You can only combat crime (like drug use) through education and changes to the enviroment.

You can either attempt to proactively stop crime through changing environments/education or waste money on repeatedly arresting repeat-offenders who will dig themselves deeper and do commit crazier acts as their record builds.
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It's easy to say theyre piece of **** thieves but when you're struggling and poor worrying about money and how you're going to eat and pay the bills and someone parks that with Christian leboutin shoes in them, thats going to be a very real hard to resist temptation.

Walking off with 3 or 4 boxes probably could give these people financial peace of mind for like a month or two

Ive never been that poor to consider crime but i can kinda see how it could happen.

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And let’s be honest if you wanted to catch people stealing ammunition then set up a bait of aummition instead of shoes?
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Originally Posted By PlzStop
entrapment
Not even close. They have to encourage you to commit a crime, or convince you that it is not a crime for it to be entrapment. Simply providing the opportunity and letting you make up your own mind to commit it is not entrapment.
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Entrapment is when police come up with a plan and then encourage someone to break the law using the plan they came up with.

Leaving a truck is not entrapment as police did not go and tell people to steal.
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People calling it entrapment are unironically implying its in black peoples nature to steal.

Also, nice thumbnail hbo/vice. Lol.
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Did you guys watch the video? The charges were dropped

Now the thieves are free to go back to terrorizing their community
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
But if they weren’t trash people that steal then they could just leave the trucks and no one would take a thing...entrapment laws like this is basically saying these people are too stupid to not break the law.
There are certain conditions that people are in that make them more likely to steal. They aren't just too stupid or trash people.
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Originally Posted By QuickNutkus
People calling it entrapment are unironically implying its in black peoples nature to steal.

Also, nice thumbnail hbo/vice. Lol.
"To catch a predator" people (mostly white) got off for the same thing. By calling that entrapment, was anyone implying that it's in white people's nature to be ****philes? No. It's just entrapment.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
Seems like a strange thing to do. Chicago police department not busy enough?

Brb let's leave a truck full of money around poor people and see if they take it. Then let's give them a criminal record, ruining their chances at future employment.
poor criminals, lets make that distinction
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Originally Posted By QuickNutkus
People calling it entrapment are unironically implying its in black peoples nature to steal.

Also, nice thumbnail hbo/vice. Lol.
Strong this.

It’s like they are being racists by trying not to be racists.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsSceaming
"To catch a predator" people (mostly white) got off for the same thing. By calling that entrapment, was anyone implying that it's in white people's nature to be ****philes? No. It's just entrapment.
They were white so they're seen as individuals, minorities don't have that privilege and are generalized by the worst of their race
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Originally Posted By 128
They were white so they're seen as individuals, minorities don't have that privilege and are generalized by the worst of their race
Oh gawd lol
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