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post 1560601741 09-06-2018, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu⏩
I think a lot of the “idgaf” or “too cool to try to impress with clothes and makeup” is just coping and insecurities. I know My best friend had the same mindset in HS, but deep down it was more... what if I’m still the ugly duckling WITH makeup on. So they just don’t wear any, at least then not having dating prospects can be blamed on people being shallow. Obviously some women don’t wear makeup but still groom themselves, I’m not talking about those. More the type that put in zero effort, bc they’re scared it wouldn’t change a thing.
Most shy and nice girls who barely wear makeup don't even know they are pretty. I know a few who have openly admitted to depression. Why? They have great things ahead of them and their chit together, but ultimately won't put out and probably appear to be boring.
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post 1560601751 09-06-2018, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu⏩
And I mean they not only can’t find people to date, they don’t even do casual sex. One of my coworkers is a virgin and she’s 29, just socially awkward and rather get work done.
is she slim?

if so, she will get orbiters still from online dating.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
You guys are making an assumption that all women are social creatures. Some suffer from extreme social anxiety. These women WILL be alone.
Can confirm. One of my ex gf's suffered from extreme anxiety. Lasted about 2 months with her before it started affecting me negatively.
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post 1560601831 09-06-2018, 09:37 AM
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Ever see those "nice" girls on vacation anywhere?


"Nice" boils down to available options and opportunities. It's not as though they'll magically turn into Christine Lagarde if they get sudden access to real money...and in the same vein when given sudden access to options, most will turn into complete barbarians.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
You guys are making an assumption that all women are social creatures. Some suffer from extreme social anxiety. These women WILL be alone.
Nope, they probably just have ridiculous standards
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Originally Posted By MirinCanadian99⏩
Nice girls are the type of girls that you don’t see on/in:
-Dating apps
-In bars
-Clubs
-Raves
-Party’s
-In your bed within a few weeks or a month of dating


They also tend to come from stable families and don’t or very rarely put out to the “wrong guy” or aka Chad as it is called here. For some reason these girs can easily sniff out low quality men.

They usually have 1-2 sexual partners and thats it before they get married and start a family with that person. Some however have no sexual partners because they are super shy and don’t socialize a lot. I know a few nice girls out there but they don’t live near me but rather in Europe and are saving themselves for marriage for the right guy (I.e. has his $hit together and is respectable)

Id say these girls dont finish last because they do eventually settle and live pretty happy lives while the broken girls sleep around and ask themselves why they cant find a nice guy despite having met multiple nice guys in her life. So far in my life I’ve only met broken girls but that’s mainly my fault because I used dating apps to find the right girl but dating apps are the worst place to find love or a meaningful relationship on. This is just my two cents tho
Dating apps are a complete joke. I actually used mine just to fuk around and feed my ego a few years ago. The kind of women on there are clearly sl00ts and while some of them are nice, most just want attention as well. Not sure how someone could actually save themselves completely for marriage with the image of a perfect person being with them - seems like a path to disappointment in the long term.
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post 1560602441 09-06-2018, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
Dating apps are a complete joke. I actually used mine just to fuk around and feed my ego a few years ago. The kind of women on there are clearly sl00ts andwhile some of them are nice, most just want attention as well..
this.

was dating this girl (FWB) on a dating app and has been over 6 months. while shes sleeping over my house her phone is blowing up from guys messaging her from that dating app. I can clearly tell she loves the attention and validation from it, even though she ignored most of them.



edit: forgot to add this was a Japanese girl who was on a working visa at the time.
post 1560602731 09-06-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Griffindinho⏩
this.

was dating this girl (FWB) on a dating app and has been over 6 months. while shes sleeping over my house her phone is blowing up from guys messaging her from that dating app. I can clearly tell she loves the attention and validation from it, even though she ignored most of them.
It's ironic because there's a huge change that deep down she suffers from anxiety and depression or loathed self-image.
We are in an era of soy and weakness.

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post 1560602851 09-06-2018, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
Most shy and nice girls who barely wear makeup don't even know they are pretty. I know a few who have openly admitted to depression. Why? They have great things ahead of them and their chit together, but ultimately won't put out and probably appear to be boring.
Right. Half of them don’t even know the women they deem attractive day to day wear a ton of makeup, and then they feel plain in comparison. Most don’t sleep with guys on the first or even fifth date. Ironic bc a lot of miscers would write them right off.
Originally Posted By Griffindinho⏩
is she slim?

if so, she will get orbiters still from online dating.
She’s thin. But she’s never going to do online dating. I don’t think you understand outside of people who are immersed in social media, the idea of dating apps is pretty odd. I’m as outgoing as they come and even I would never use a dating app, meeting up with complete strangers who probably just want to have sex and have been through this a few dozen iterations doesn’t seem very appealing.
They said she's gone too far this time

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu⏩
Right. Half of them don’t even know the women they deem attractive day to day wear a ton of makeup, and then they feel plain in comparison. Most don’t sleep with guys on the first or even fifth date. Ironic bc a lot of miscers would write them right off.
They wouldn't be wrong to write them off in most cases. Not everyone has time to play hard to get games. Although for my current gf we went a few months before doing anything. She was worth waiting for to me, but I also met her in the gym, not some fukn dating app or bar.
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post 1560603621 09-06-2018, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
It's ironic because there's a huge change that deep down she suffers from anxiety and depression or loathed self-image.
We are in an era of soy and weakness.


spot on lol.

she posted a "feeling depressed today" post on FB a few months ago.
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Need pics of "nice girl" before I can evaluate this for you OP.

I make sure my nice girl finish first - all the time. You guys with me or what?!?
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
Nope, they probably just have ridiculous standards
Not all women are a reflection of majority rule (the Tinder affect). It's not how all women are IRL.
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post 1560604111 09-06-2018, 10:06 AM
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post 1560604231 09-06-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
Why do they have to value family/tradition?



Some of the most successful men had strong wives behind them. But you're taking my point in another direction.



Lmao @ this bait
It's not bait, son. The anxieties of the average herping/derping Miscer would be alleviated if they married a chaste, Christian woman, waited until marriage for sex and treated her with respect.
post 1560604391 09-06-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted By MirinCanadian99⏩
I agree with you regarding dating apps. I used them for a while between the ages of 17-18 because I lacked confidence to actually approach girls irl and I experienced some of the worst relationships in my life. Almost 90% of the girls I dated had some degree of bpd or other mental issues with them. A lot of then had daddy issues and had no idea what they wanted.I remember sleeping with a girl for 4 months before she came to the conclusion that she wanted us to remain friends and all of the I love you’s she told me went down the drain . While like you said some might be nice or even normal, they are too small in numbers to actually make online dating worth it. I tried tinder recently and all I saw were girls advertising their snapchat and/or instagram and they never replied to any messages you sent them. Proceeded to delete it shortly after.

Ive asked those girls in Europe what were there expectations or criterias, and they simply told me they wanted a guy who treated them with respect and had a stable job to support a family. They also wanted a guy with a small kill count (between 0-3) because they didn’t want to deal with any emotional baggage. Their words not mines. Most of these girls are from stable conservative families.
thats why man you take it with a grain of salt as to what they say, body language is more important. like this instance she said she loved you many times but in the end it means nothing if she doesn't replicate it
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Around here they're locked down by ~22 or earlier.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Not all women are a reflection of majority rule (the Tinder affect). It's not how all women are IRL.
But with dating apps I do feel the majority of girls are this way now. Almost all women under 30 use some sort of social media and online dating, at least part of the time.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Not all women are a reflection of majority rule (the Tinder affect). It's not how all women are IRL.
The fact is that no matter how depressed, dysfunctional, ugly or fat women are there are always decent guys who would date them
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1. nice

2. girls

pick one.
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Originally Posted By BibFortunaBrah⏩
It's not bait, son. The anxieties of the average herping/derping Miscer would be alleviated if they married a chaste, Christian woman, waited until marriage for sex and treated her with respect.
Aside from everyone being a Chad here with women crawling at their feet - women should be treated with respect. With that said, women also loved to be man handled in the sheets, so all the Timothy's out there need to start lifting.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
1. nice

2. girls

pick one.
I can feel your heartbreak brah.
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Thus the real reason for the wage gap. Agreeableness predicts negative outcomes in the workforce. And usually life. Stand up for what you believe in.
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu⏩
I think a lot of the “idgaf” or “too cool to try to impress with clothes and makeup” is just coping and insecurities. I know My best friend had the same mindset in HS, but deep down it was more... what if I’m still the ugly duckling WITH makeup on. So they just don’t wear any, at least then not having dating prospects can be blamed on people being shallow. Obviously some women don’t wear makeup but still groom themselves, I’m not talking about those. More the type that put in zero effort, bc they’re scared it wouldn’t change a thing.
Some perhaps but I think a larger contingent have issues with their own sexuality and sex in general so they deliberately avoid anything that associates/presents themselves in this way.
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
This just seems like the easy way to live. Get a career, get married, get a house, have kids, retire, die.

Most have the potential and intelligence to make something of themselves, but the introvert personality and "willingness" to follow set laws/rules appears holds them back.
Not really. Nice girls can have fun too. And if you can't open them up, you can partially blame yourself. But a nice girl that wants to build together and have hobbies like traveling and dancing? Count me in

There's no such thing as nice girls finishing last. It's laughable. All it takes is that one guy who's bold enough to approach and make them comfortable. What man would skip on a quite girl who's in shape has her sht together?
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Nice girls, provided they have some appeal to the average guy living in their area actually finish first when in an environment that spits out girls with terrible LTR potential. The guys see what's happening to their local women, see an exception to the rule and lock that up.

It's only in environments where the majority of women are wife material that the nice girl could end up with a problem because she doesn't put herself out there. Because she has far too much competition.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
But a nice girl that wants to build together and havehobbies like traveling and dancing? Count me in
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Originally Posted By WhirlwindTobias⏩
Nice girls, provided they have some appeal to the average guy living in their area actually finish first when in an environment that spits out girls with terrible LTR potential. The guys see what's happening to their local women, see an exception to the rule and lock that up.

It's only in environments where the majority of women are wife material that the nice girl could end up with a problem because she doesn't put herself out there. Because she has far too much competition.
When you think about it, nice girls really dont need to put themselves out there because they know their own worth. This is a double edged sword because it keeps them out of bullchit, but also makes them come off as full of themselves or just straight shy (prude). So we see the majority either ending up with a Tim or by themselves, while Stacy and Chad flaunt their rented BMW at high school reunions.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
Yes they do.

These are the quiet women you see living with cats in their mid-late 40s. It's unfortunate, but happens quite a bit.
unaware as fuk. the ones you describe are the bitchy ones who think they are too good for anyone else.

quiet ones get picked up and latch onto who ever loves them first.
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Idk.. I think its different for women

Submissiveness is attractive to men

But i guess.

Id say, prudish women finish last though

I have to say fuking a bad bish is extremely attractive sometimes. Like, having sex with a hot girl from the strip club vs. The really homely girl.. If youre looking just for sex the stripper sounds more appealing
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