Thread: Psmf cut
09-11-2018, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
thanks bruh I appreciate that, honestly just wanted to get a little leaner before this event I have next weekend then back to small bulki just looked at your insta and first off 10/10 transformation my man
but you don't have near the amount of lbm to make psmf even close to worth attempting. people aren't telling you it's stupid because it's hard to do, they're telling you it's stupid because it's reckless and a waste of time. Just keep putting on weight mayne you need to work on your base before you worry about anything else. You could even just recomp where you're at and see good growth.
but you don't have near the amount of lbm to make psmf even close to worth attempting. people aren't telling you it's stupid because it's hard to do, they're telling you it's stupid because it's reckless and a waste of time. Just keep putting on weight mayne you need to work on your base before you worry about anything else. You could even just recomp where you're at and see good growth.
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09-11-2018, 09:55 AM
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I've done psmf and read Lyle McDonald's book twice, he even specifies that he doesn't recommend psmf to anyone but the obese. It's just a "scientific" way to crash diet. You will be miserable on psmf take it from me I've done it before would not attempt again unless I magically turn 30% bodyfat. Keto and IF are good diets for fat loss and would run them for periods of time when I'm shredding up but never going to do psmf again it's hell
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09-11-2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
aye bruh, failure means you're trying.haha always find it funny when people log their first day of PSMF
then 4-5 days later they just disapear
then 4-5 days later they just disapear
Update on work out. Was a good one, did skip one exercise but did abs so that maybe why. Did notice a little lack of energy but wasn't to terrible, I just didn't do to many super sets witch is what I normally do.
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09-11-2018, 01:20 PM
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Can someone rep or neg me itt. I'm not sure how to find it unless I have the link in the user control panel, or aware me how to.
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09-11-2018, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
Heads or tails, *******.Can someone rep or neg me itt. I'm not sure how to find it unless I have the link in the user control panel, or aware me how to.
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09-11-2018, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319⏩
bothHeads or tails, *******.
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09-11-2018, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
because I have an event next weekend so quicker is betterwhy not just fast until dinner every night until you're lean?
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09-11-2018, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
is festival so probably multi colorwhat color is her hair?
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09-11-2018, 01:47 PM
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JUSA care to explain self destructive quote? Why would 1 pizza for a day be a bad refeed, whole thing would probably be 2600-3000 cal meal, 3 to 500 carbs, 200 or so in fats. Beer witch I drink liquor would be low in all that and I think my self control is very good. Although may drop drinking. 3200 cals is my lean bulk before this psmf and is what I'll go back to. No hate on the neg just curious
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09-11-2018, 01:48 PM
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Lol, got rekted in negs. Still love yall *******s
Btw, this isnt something I plain on doing long. If I like the progress I may add it into my lean bulk every 8 or 9 weeks for a week.
Btw, this isnt something I plain on doing long. If I like the progress I may add it into my lean bulk every 8 or 9 weeks for a week.
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09-11-2018, 01:53 PM
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I feel skinny fat so would like to drop bf whenever but know I need to gain muscle because I'm small. Give me ideas bruhs always open for solid advice. But I will not for the love of me give up a pizza a week. Fuk dat
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09-11-2018, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
This isn't directed at you, because while you may or may not be a good dude, your attitude about cutting throughout this thread has been a sad combination of ignorance mixed with arrogance, with a good smattering of denial...because I have an event next weekend so quicker is better
... but to anyone else: A good way to ensure any attempt at cutting is a 100% going to be a miserable failure is to start it with a super unrealistic short time frame goal in mind. You do that, and not even to the nonsensical "1 week" retardery from B. Hicks, but even wanting to drop 10lbs in two months or something that's almost reasonable but at the end of the day is basically impossible for someone already not obese who is non-chemical (protip: the leaner you get, the slower you progress or can cut fat; Have fun dropping even 1lb a week of fat when you're already 12% or leaner)
Anyway, so the OP has so far hit about every mark for a guaranteed failure. Don't expect an update, OP seems to big headed to come here in a month and admit he failed spectacularly.
Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
Nothing personal, like I said - you may or may not be a good dude outside of this, but in this particular instance your attitude towards cutting is, as I said above:Guaranteed to Fail.JUSA care to explain self destructive quote? Why would 1 pizza for a day be a bad refeed, whole thing would probably be 2600-3000 cal meal, 3 to 500 carbs, 200 or so in fats. Beer witch I drink liquor would be low in all that and I think my self control is very good. Although may drop drinking. 3200 cals is my lean bulk before this psmf and is what I'll go back to. No hate on the neg just curious
You're almost completely ignoring the program, adding in your own reckless ideas, ending a quick fast with tons of calories, insulin-spiking carbs, gain-wrecking alcohol and somehow expecting to get somewhere in only 1 week, which includes pizza and fuking beer.
I'll go into more depth as to why unrealistic goals ruin cuts: You start, you spin wheels, or you make actual progress you don't actually see (often when cutting, you gain water weight as you burn fat, read up on squishy fat and the "whoosh"), you get frustrated and you drop calories more, you end up with a dick that doesn't work and eventually pigging out, eating the wrong foods (such as pizza and beer) and undoing any good you might have done -- often doing damage in the process, to both your short-term metabolism and ending up fatter and weaker that when you began.
You sit there starving yourself, burning more lean weight than fat, your girl is pissed because you're not doing your job on her with a flaccid dick and you eventually gorge yourself on crappy food with your body primed to store as much of it as it can as reserves, i.e. fat.
Bad ideas all around.
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09-11-2018, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
fuark, i thought 10lbs in 2 months would be easily doable lolThis isn't directed at you, because while you may or may not be a good dude, your attitude about cutting throughout this thread has been a sad combination of ignorance mixed with arrogance, with a good smattering of denial...
... but to anyone else: A good way to ensure any attempt at cutting is a 100% going to be a miserable failure is to start it with a super unrealistic short time frame goal in mind. You do that, and not even to the nonsensical "1 week" retardery from B. Hicks, but even wanting to drop 10lbs in two months or something that's almost reasonable but at the end of the day is basically impossible for someone already not obese who is non-chemical (protip: the leaner you get, the slower you progress or can cut fat; Have fun dropping even 1lb a week of fat when you're already 12% or leaner)
Anyway, so the OP has so far hit about every mark for a guaranteed failure. Don't expect an update, OP seems to big headed to come here in a month and admit he failed miserably.
... but to anyone else: A good way to ensure any attempt at cutting is a 100% going to be a miserable failure is to start it with a super unrealistic short time frame goal in mind. You do that, and not even to the nonsensical "1 week" retardery from B. Hicks, but even wanting to drop 10lbs in two months or something that's almost reasonable but at the end of the day is basically impossible for someone already not obese who is non-chemical (protip: the leaner you get, the slower you progress or can cut fat; Have fun dropping even 1lb a week of fat when you're already 12% or leaner)
Anyway, so the OP has so far hit about every mark for a guaranteed failure. Don't expect an update, OP seems to big headed to come here in a month and admit he failed miserably.
i'm doing boatloads of LISS though
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09-11-2018, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
Don't try and do small chunks of bulking and cutting, it never works.I feel skinny fat so would like to drop bf whenever but know I need to gain muscle because I'm small. Give me ideas bruhs always open for solid advice. But I will not for the love of me give up a pizza a week. Fuk dat
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Slowly put on size, you are new enough that your muscle:fat gain ratio will be incredible if you are able to stick to your cals and train hard
maintain: stay the same weight and slowly put on muscle while losing fat for a couple months then reassess. Should be no fat gain and will still have appreciable results in terms of growth but much slower than you would probably like
cut: terrible
dreamer bulk: terrible
short cycles of cutting and bulking: terrible
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09-11-2018, 02:02 PM
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First off PSMF is a meme
2nd you are 170lb with decent shape i guess butno real size so why are u cutting
You will literally look like a dyel skinny guy with abs after smh
2nd you are 170lb with decent shape i guess butno real size so why are u cutting
You will literally look like a dyel skinny guy with abs after smh
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09-11-2018, 02:05 PM
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Just looked up PSMF, sounds really fukkin dumb and unhealthy.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
I can drop close to that in water weight if you give me 48 hours, but if we're talking actual fat... I might be able to get somewhere close to that if I was still 205lbs with bit of a gut, but if someone is fairly lean, I don't see a natty lifter getting there.fuark, i thought 10lbs in 2 months would be easily doable lol
i'm doing boatloads of LISS though
i'm doing boatloads of LISS though
We're not talking about the OP bro and he never mentioned #s, but he's fairly lean and smaller, looking like 15% and 170lbs. Dropping 10lbs of fat, not water weight or lean-weight, that is going to take a guy like him some time, especially once he gets very lean (12% range), he might have trouble with even 1lb a week (although that's hardly an unrealistic goal, like 10lbs/2month or anything)
I personally kind of hate LISS, but it's only because I was a fool like the OP years back, dropped to 170lbs from 195 but did it the wrong way and LISS was part of it (although my impatience, diet and meal-timing was the real issue, not LISS). Nowadays, LISS fuks with my knees and I just prefer get cardio done with HIIT on off days, to save time if nothing else.
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I would say I'm 17/18% body fat, I don't see how a 1 week extreme cut would be a bad thing. Rather you like the idea of psmf or not if followed correctly it works ( I know I'm not with the cheat day ). I do not expect some huge change what so ever. I'll try to go farther in this later lol, busy atm.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
absandface/10 until you slowly make it to all the check marksFirst off PSMF is a meme
2nd you are 170lb with decent shape i guess butno real size so why are u cutting
You will literally look like a dyel skinny guy with abs after smh
2nd you are 170lb with decent shape i guess butno real size so why are u cutting
You will literally look like a dyel skinny guy with abs after smh
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
You need to get a better grasp on what re-feeding is in this case.JUSA care to explain self destructive quote? Why would 1 pizza for a day be a bad refeed, whole thing would probably be 2600-3000 cal meal, 3 to 500 carbs,200 or so in fats. Beer witch I drink liquor would be low in all that and I think my self control is very good. Although may drop drinking. 3200 cals is my lean bulk before this psmf and is what I'll go back to. No hate on the neg just curious
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09-11-2018, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Gxp23⏩
I know bruh but there is no way I'm giving up a pizza. I broke my jaw and had it wired shut for 5 weeks and legit almost blended one up lololYou need to get a better grasp on what re-feeding is in this case.
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very hard diet lol
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Originally Posted By Gxp23⏩
you really think that that will be some huge problem? I can see bloat like a mofo but would be gone the next day or so and a lil bit of gain but not enough to ruin the whole ordealYou need to get a better grasp on what re-feeding is in this case.
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
I think he meant re-feeds typically do not include that high in fats.you really think that that will be some huge problem? I can see bloat like a mofo but would be gone the next day or so and a lil bit of gain but not enough to ruin the whole ordeal
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
ya I followed that, but why would one day be that bad, cals in vs cals out at the end of the day. Unless your trying to get shredded asf.I think he meant re-feeds typically do not include that high in fats.
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Originally Posted By bhicks3712⏩
<shrugs> I know next to nothing about PSMF, in fact I only knew it was a thing within the last week or so when someone in one of the groups I frequent was dumb enough to recommend it to a 15 year old with ED.ya I followed that, but why would one day be that bad, cals in vs cals out at the end of the day. Unless your trying to get shredded asf.
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09-11-2018, 02:39 PM
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Confirmed eating disorderbecause I have an event next weekend so quicker is better
This kid is clueless
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