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10-26-2018, 06:31 PM
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Brahs, I am in dire need of help srs offer me some advice...
- Did not know what I wanted to do with my life when I had to pick uni **** at age 19, I also immigrated to the UK at this age for uni.
- Picked something based on jobs,security and pay (which I know might be regretting but we will see) and ended up doing Computer Science.
- Currently in my last year of study, grades have been very good solely out of work ethic not interest, have done two internships and have a total of 3 graduate offers from Fortune 500 companies all of which are in the 50-62k british pounds range annually in London (nothing ceo 10k day but considering it is just a starting one at age 21-22... is very good)
- However, I feel like utter **** tbh, I am not passionate about this and I feel like I am a stupid loser who is contributing nothing to society or anything... just some big companies, just some code, just some money... so what when 40 hours of the week is gone srs ? Don't get me wrong, work env is the opposite of toxic, no high stress unless you are retarded but I really need to find what is the hole in my life because I literally find no joy in the typical **** people my age do which is not caring about their degrees, job prospects, purpose and just go clubbing. just kill me ffs
- Felt it was because of Computer Science and coding in general but my buddies from my first internship hooked me up to do a short one in Strategic Group Finance due to the value of my degree opening doors but it was even worse - financial statements, Excel pivot tables, key performance indicators like what the **** how is life supposed to be like this ?
I see some girls who work in finance with me there doing some presentations on key performance indicators and then licking their own asses on LinkedIn congratulating themselves on this ****. I was overseeing them because I got into some **** "high-performer management task" where I need to be their manager and literally saw everything they do... I can't imagine doing something like that either I would feel like I haven't done anything in life, absolutely mad.
Don't even get me started on tech "business" jobs, get this - "Application Security Specialist" who does not know how to engineer applications against **** like SQL injections etc (excuse the jargon non-CS brahs) like wtf mate your job has to do more with Excel and making dashboards than Cyber Security ?!
So I find all of this soul-sucking and overall ****. I might be overlooking something hence why I need some advice for some older brahs especially UK brahs....
Current plans involve finishing my degree as it literally ends in May and then considering becoming a teacher or pursue a career in the NHS dead srs.
- Did not know what I wanted to do with my life when I had to pick uni **** at age 19, I also immigrated to the UK at this age for uni.
- Picked something based on jobs,security and pay (which I know might be regretting but we will see) and ended up doing Computer Science.
- Currently in my last year of study, grades have been very good solely out of work ethic not interest, have done two internships and have a total of 3 graduate offers from Fortune 500 companies all of which are in the 50-62k british pounds range annually in London (nothing ceo 10k day but considering it is just a starting one at age 21-22... is very good)
- However, I feel like utter **** tbh, I am not passionate about this and I feel like I am a stupid loser who is contributing nothing to society or anything... just some big companies, just some code, just some money... so what when 40 hours of the week is gone srs ? Don't get me wrong, work env is the opposite of toxic, no high stress unless you are retarded but I really need to find what is the hole in my life because I literally find no joy in the typical **** people my age do which is not caring about their degrees, job prospects, purpose and just go clubbing. just kill me ffs
- Felt it was because of Computer Science and coding in general but my buddies from my first internship hooked me up to do a short one in Strategic Group Finance due to the value of my degree opening doors but it was even worse - financial statements, Excel pivot tables, key performance indicators like what the **** how is life supposed to be like this ?
I see some girls who work in finance with me there doing some presentations on key performance indicators and then licking their own asses on LinkedIn congratulating themselves on this ****. I was overseeing them because I got into some **** "high-performer management task" where I need to be their manager and literally saw everything they do... I can't imagine doing something like that either I would feel like I haven't done anything in life, absolutely mad.
Don't even get me started on tech "business" jobs, get this - "Application Security Specialist" who does not know how to engineer applications against **** like SQL injections etc (excuse the jargon non-CS brahs) like wtf mate your job has to do more with Excel and making dashboards than Cyber Security ?!
So I find all of this soul-sucking and overall ****. I might be overlooking something hence why I need some advice for some older brahs especially UK brahs....
Current plans involve finishing my degree as it literally ends in May and then considering becoming a teacher or pursue a career in the NHS dead srs.
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10-26-2018, 06:35 PM
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ya dun goofed. ya picked something "based on jobs, security and pay" and not something you were interested in. now you gotta grind it out until you retire or die.
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Yeah kind of agree here. Do automation/robotics and feel the same. I'm just programming or drawing electrical schematics for chit that already exists. To feel like you really achieved something I feel as one has to work on groundbreaking tech where the bare minimum is a PhD. Unfortunately that is not for everyone and I wouldn't cut it cuz IQ too low.
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10-26-2018, 06:47 PM
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I read about half of that., Enough to glean that you have a decent job.
Just do the damn work and see how it goes. its called growing up. You will see how it goes. Its good that you dont like what you are doing, its natural to want to get out of the box but hell man, it takes some doing.
I had to do 20 years in the navy, never really liked it but did it. The reason I did it was so i could dick off in my later years.
Think through what you are doing, put money aside and just suck it up. When you get to be my age you will be way better off than most guys my age and younger. Then you will be able do do whatever you want like I do.
What you want to stay away from is debt. 100% it is a dream killer.
Just do the damn work and see how it goes. its called growing up. You will see how it goes. Its good that you dont like what you are doing, its natural to want to get out of the box but hell man, it takes some doing.
I had to do 20 years in the navy, never really liked it but did it. The reason I did it was so i could dick off in my later years.
Think through what you are doing, put money aside and just suck it up. When you get to be my age you will be way better off than most guys my age and younger. Then you will be able do do whatever you want like I do.
What you want to stay away from is debt. 100% it is a dream killer.
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What is NHS?
In the states, you can get jobs outside the scope of your degree. The degree is really a general qualifier.
Might be worth asking a counselor if your completed courses could translate into another field and switch majors if that field interests you.
In the states, you can get jobs outside the scope of your degree. The degree is really a general qualifier.
Might be worth asking a counselor if your completed courses could translate into another field and switch majors if that field interests you.
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Young as chit
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good degree choice for finding a job/decent entry pay
wtf are you stressing about? god damn some people are just never happy regardless of the circumstance
educated
good degree choice for finding a job/decent entry pay
wtf are you stressing about? god damn some people are just never happy regardless of the circumstance
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10-26-2018, 06:52 PM
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cliffs- did not readI liked the part where you posted cliffs and not just a wall of text
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10-26-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Critter5592⏩
Dont like my jobYoung as chit
educated
good degree choice for finding a job/decent entry pay
wtf are you stressing about? god damn some people are just never happy regardless of the circumstance
educated
good degree choice for finding a job/decent entry pay
wtf are you stressing about? god damn some people are just never happy regardless of the circumstance
Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
NHS = british public healthcare services, there are a lot of types of jobs thereWhat is NHS?
In the states, you can get jobs outside the scope of your degree. The degree is really a general qualifier.
Might be worth asking a counselor if your completed courses could translate into another field and switch majors if that field interests you.
In the states, you can get jobs outside the scope of your degree. The degree is really a general qualifier.
Might be worth asking a counselor if your completed courses could translate into another field and switch majors if that field interests you.
I just want fulfillment. srs hence why teaching or something healthcare
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10-26-2018, 07:26 PM
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So if you don't want to be a cubecel like the rest of us, what do you want?
10-26-2018, 07:41 PM
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wtf u got a good degree, stop being a weenie
u could make some apps or something that is useful..
fulfillment in work is bullchit anyway... unless you do something you love that is fun.
u could make some apps or something that is useful..
fulfillment in work is bullchit anyway... unless you do something you love that is fun.
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a few things. one, you did the right thing imo when it comes to uni. you pick a worthwhile major and you did - most people dont and enter a flooded job market, but youve avoided that problem. second, work is meant to suck according to one philosophy. you do it to make money to pay for the things you actually want to do. so id say for at least a little while, dont blow this oppurtunity and get some job experience. once youve got the experience and you still want out, then you can leave it all and pursue what you want. basically, since you have job experience you wont have to deal with entry level bs that is the biggest bottleneck ever.
about the girls on linkedin, get used to it. most people in workplaces are ****wits so you keep work pure business. go in and get out
i highly recommend you watch aaron clarey on youtube, hes older than me and says it better but ive experienced this stuff myself as well
about the girls on linkedin, get used to it. most people in workplaces are ****wits so you keep work pure business. go in and get out
i highly recommend you watch aaron clarey on youtube, hes older than me and says it better but ive experienced this stuff myself as well
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Lol @ professional women, just lol
Wait, you’re finishing up a degree in CS to become a teacher? Dude, I get why you don’t like your job, because in the beginning it’s the chit nobody wants to do, but it might get more interesting.
but yeah, the 40 hours won’t go away. Just that we eventually become institutionalized enough.
Wait, you’re finishing up a degree in CS to become a teacher? Dude, I get why you don’t like your job, because in the beginning it’s the chit nobody wants to do, but it might get more interesting.
but yeah, the 40 hours won’t go away. Just that we eventually become institutionalized enough.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Healthcare is a respectable job and there's a wide range of specialties boyo.Dont like my job
NHS = british public healthcare services, there are a lot of types of jobs there
I just want fulfillment. srs hence why teaching or something healthcare
NHS = british public healthcare services, there are a lot of types of jobs there
I just want fulfillment. srs hence why teaching or something healthcare
If you have interest in research or how the body works, consider it. Tho tbh the good CS jobs seem pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa⏩
"To teach in a state school in England, you must have a degree, and gain Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) by following a programme of Initial Teacher Training (ITT)."Lol @ professional women, just lol
Wait, you’re finishing up a degree in CS to become a teacher? Dude, I get why you don’t like your job, because in the beginning it’s the chit nobody wants to do, but it might get more interesting.
but yeah, the 40 hours won’t go away. Just that we eventually become institutionalized enough.
Wait, you’re finishing up a degree in CS to become a teacher? Dude, I get why you don’t like your job, because in the beginning it’s the chit nobody wants to do, but it might get more interesting.
but yeah, the 40 hours won’t go away. Just that we eventually become institutionalized enough.
I just decided that I want to benefit directly someone, not be a corporate worker. IDK still confused af
Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Yeah still don't know how to approach this. Dunno what CS jobs u have in mind either.Healthcare is a respectable job and there's a wide range of specialties boyo.
If you have interest in research or how the body works, consider it. Tho tbh the good CS jobs seem pretty awesome.
If you have interest in research or how the body works, consider it. Tho tbh the good CS jobs seem pretty awesome.
What do you mean in research ? Yeah I would be interested but life science research jobs require at least a masters in a life science like Pharmacology, Biochem/Bio etc
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My suggestion is to stop being a baby back bitch. It's call work for a reason, it isn't supposed to be fun. You can be a broke ******* chasing meaning and fulfillment while worrying about paying rent or you can maximize income at your job so you can live life to the max outside of your job. Time to grow up.
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10-26-2018, 08:57 PM
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Dude... go to work... make as much money as you can without working too hard or for too long. Get a ****ing life outside of work. I make money so I can live and do what I want. 99% of jobs suck. Work to live bro and find a way to be happy.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
I'm just thinking all of the top silicon valley jobs. I follow a youtuber who went to Berkeley and his job at Yahoo looks pretty awesome."To teach in a state school in England, you must have a degree, and gain Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) by following a programme of Initial Teacher Training (ITT)."
I just decided that I want to benefit directly someone, not be a corporate worker. IDK still confused af
Yeah still don't know how to approach this. Dunno what CS jobs u have in mind either.
What do you mean in research ? Yeah I would be interested but life science research jobs require at least a masters in a life science like Pharmacology, Biochem/Bio etc
I just decided that I want to benefit directly someone, not be a corporate worker. IDK still confused af
Yeah still don't know how to approach this. Dunno what CS jobs u have in mind either.
What do you mean in research ? Yeah I would be interested but life science research jobs require at least a masters in a life science like Pharmacology, Biochem/Bio etc
By research I mean like post doc research but that will require alot more schooling...you might consider physician assistant which is what i'm going for. They've existed in UK for about 15 years now.
it's usually a 24-30 month masters program in the US. You can then choose any specialty.
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With tech you can build features in any industry you are passionate about.
Building software that is utilized by normal people or other engineers feels ****ing buriful. Yeah the job sucks dick sometimes, but if you are working at a decent place it won't matter.
Building software that is utilized by normal people or other engineers feels ****ing buriful. Yeah the job sucks dick sometimes, but if you are working at a decent place it won't matter.
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The grass ain't always greener. Dunno how it is in the UK, but in the US teaching is more crowd control than it is "inspiring young minds" or any of that bull****. You gotta keep 30 kids who don't want to be in there in their seats, and they WILL tune you out, ignore you and go on their phones, **** you with just for the lolz, etc.
My dad's a fourth grade teacher and ex HS wrestler and football player. He always says "I don't think of myself as a teacher, I think of myself as a coach. Any dip**** can teach two digit multiplication, but not that many people can get a ten year old to want to do it." Dude gets all the problem kids shoveled onto him b/c male elementary teacher and still regularly comes out top 10% of the district in terms of standardized test scores, so I think he's onto something.
My dad's a fourth grade teacher and ex HS wrestler and football player. He always says "I don't think of myself as a teacher, I think of myself as a coach. Any dip**** can teach two digit multiplication, but not that many people can get a ten year old to want to do it." Dude gets all the problem kids shoveled onto him b/c male elementary teacher and still regularly comes out top 10% of the district in terms of standardized test scores, so I think he's onto something.
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Feel/felt the same as you OP; work in IT in finance, I have essentially automated my job because it was piss easy and cant believe noone has done it in the 15 years prior to my joining, but seems 80% of people are morons with no drive or mental capacity.
Kinda wish I'd joined the military and experienced that type of life for a while, being given a purpose or atleast felt like I was doing something that had an impact, or like you said, teacher or nhs were other options. Sadly finance industry pays much better and i already have commitments
but you dont OP, do something that makes you feel! I've heard the UN pays IT/CS guys alot, get to travel aswell.
Kinda wish I'd joined the military and experienced that type of life for a while, being given a purpose or atleast felt like I was doing something that had an impact, or like you said, teacher or nhs were other options. Sadly finance industry pays much better and i already have commitments
but you dont OP, do something that makes you feel! I've heard the UN pays IT/CS guys alot, get to travel aswell.
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little over your head imo. you're 21. this is just the current rut speaking
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Not reading all that but..
Have met many people in my lifetime. Only 20% like their job and typically its not even the job they just have the right attitude, mentality and temperment that they like to work and like to work hard. The truth is most people wont have fulfilling jobs in the way youre thinking. Most jobs are just that - a job. They pay you money to do work. What you want where you like doing the work and you feel like youre doing a good thing thats helping the planet or people.. its not a real thing for most people.
The truth is your attitude and discipline will determine the course of your life. When you look at someones life if its a good life you can almost always trace it back to a positive attitude and vice versa.
Have met many people in my lifetime. Only 20% like their job and typically its not even the job they just have the right attitude, mentality and temperment that they like to work and like to work hard. The truth is most people wont have fulfilling jobs in the way youre thinking. Most jobs are just that - a job. They pay you money to do work. What you want where you like doing the work and you feel like youre doing a good thing thats helping the planet or people.. its not a real thing for most people.
The truth is your attitude and discipline will determine the course of your life. When you look at someones life if its a good life you can almost always trace it back to a positive attitude and vice versa.
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Originally Posted By StuartT44⏩
yeah hopefully it works outFeel/felt the same as you OP; work in IT in finance, I have essentially automated my job because it was piss easy and cant believe noone has done it in the 15 years prior to my joining, but seems 80% of people are morons with no drive or mental capacity.
Kinda wish I'd joined the military and experienced that type of life for a while, being given a purpose or atleast felt like I was doing something that had an impact, or like you said, teacher or nhs were other options. Sadly finance industry pays much better and i already have commitments
but you dont OP, do something that makes you feel! I've heard the UN pays IT/CS guys alot, get to travel aswell.
Kinda wish I'd joined the military and experienced that type of life for a while, being given a purpose or atleast felt like I was doing something that had an impact, or like you said, teacher or nhs were other options. Sadly finance industry pays much better and i already have commitments
but you dont OP, do something that makes you feel! I've heard the UN pays IT/CS guys alot, get to travel aswell.communist until you get rich
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