Completely agree. The bell curve is heavily shifted towards ugly. The majority of people are somewhere between a 2 and a 4.5. The 1-10 scale is not meant to be balanced by population.

On a given day out and about in the states I probably see 2-3 girls I would consider attractive enough to date aka above 7.5.

Lmao I live in a wealthy area of an extremely large city. I didn’t say I go days without seeing anyone nice looking. Of course I do.

I said they didn’t particularly catch *my* eye. Because I have a fairly specific type.

My standards are fair, proven time and time again by me being able to get the kind of guy I want with some searching. So I’m not changing them because I don’t need to.

Like I said in my last post this just reflects poorly on you guys honestly. If you are around so many unattractive people it is probably because you are also unattractive. Of course if you stand on the street and watch everyone walking past they will lean heavier towards the ugly side due to obesity rates and whatnot. But if you take care of yourself, are attractive, make a moderate amount of money, etc. then there is no reason you should be spending so much time in places full of undesirable people. My time is spent between work, coffee shops, walking around my neighborhood, Trader Joe's, the gym, concerts, etc. and there are tons of attractive people everywhere I go. Even in South Carolina if you are going to the right bars or events plenty of people are attractive.Because, as a woman, as everyone has been saying, your standards are completely skewed. I do not care at all whether or not you or Silencespeaks meet someone that meets your standards. I am saying how ridiculous it is that you expect these top 1-2% men, an that 98% of other men are not worthy of the attention of you and Silencespeaks when you are certainly not the top 1-2% yourselves. Why are you even in this thread anyways, besides this becoming another Relationship Help female-led chat thread? You and Silencespeaks are just proving the OP's point

You’re confusing having a type with only wanting 10k a day 9/10 Chads. Many of the guys who do it for me quirky looking but I like that.

In any case it’s pointless because I have no incentive to lower my standards. I can have what I want, why should I?

Men would do exactly the same if they could and the ones who can do.

The only incentive to lower your standards is if you can’t get what you were aiming for. Simple as.

You seem salty.

You are not arguing anything close to what I am arguing. Like, we are not even on the same topic at all.

I already addressed this in the post you quoted yourself. Also, what is wildly unrealistic is you thinking only 1% of people are attractive. This is just ridiculous to me. What percentage of the population do you think a 6 is, if 7+ is only 1-2%?

At a busy airport? Not many. But outside of traveling I don't spend much time in busy airports. in the places I go I would consider at least 20-25% of the people conventionally attractive. I'd put myself probably on the lower end of the scale. I was at the grocery store the other day, I would have fcked probably 30% of the women there. If I am willing to fck a girl I'm also willing to date her if she has a decent personality and is not insane. At a bar probably 50% of the women. I don't spend my time in areas that are representative of the general population of America in the first place so why does the general population matter to me? If we were to take the average of all people including airports/gas stations/etc I've encountered I'd say probably I'd sleep with maybe 10-20% of the women in the 18-40 age range.

Theyre also short sighted. The bishes on here talking about looks being #1 are ridiculously unattractive. Of course, i get it somewhat

But chit.. Stick pretty boy chad in a bar and he doesnt have the ability to lead the conversation or know how make it physical he wont do chit. Womens poosy will stay dry.

Therefore, its always personality in regard to a relationship. Saying otherwise is just a shortsighted misnomer

Of course, i also dont think that means you should be attracted to a whale

Well we are not talking about the people I would date, I'm talking about the people that are attractive enough to date. Obviously personality is important. I'd only had a few semi-serious to serious relationships compared to the amount of women I've slept with, because I'm pretty intolerant of ignorance/stupidity/playing games. My tolerance for dating in general is only going down more and more as time goes on, I think everyone would agree online dating and just dating in general has worsened in the past 5 years. Obviously I empathize with the women here, and all in general that are having trouble dating, but the crux of the matter is it is easier for women, which is the point of the thread. Though maybe this thread is more indicative of the misc than either male or female, since there are some brahs trying to say they only find .5-1% of the people they see attractive. lawd, get off the HBB 10/10 fap threads

I would 100% agree that probably less than 1% of the population meets my standards when you take into account personality/intelligence/etc. But from a purely physical standpoint, way more women than 1% can get the dick consistently, even out of the general population and not just the gym/clubs/concerts/etc.

Also, anecdotally I don't think you're right about Chad in the bar. Some of my good friends have relatively poor game but are quite attractive and do well. They're not total morons or beyond hope or anything but it's rarely pretty. I was at a bar with my friend and he sat around drinking to fuel his alcoholism. A 7/10 girl sat next to him, he asked her favorite color and showed her a photo of her dog and he was in. Of course that's just at a bar though where people are looking for an excuse to get fcked.

Even ugly people care about looks. Even fat guys don’t want fat women.

It’s inescapable and is what it is.

Most people learn to be reasonable and focus on the positive of what they can get.

And like you said if they don’t, it’s on them.

No it’s because you have lower standards than me and the other few who posted that. Maybe because it was a necessary adaptation, maybe not.

I spend my time in coastal california, Hong Kong, and Shanghai. Your suggestion is wrong. South Carolina Trader Joe’s won’t change my mind.

Whatever helps you cope, man. I have realistic standards which you and other delusional miscers clearly do not. A cute face and a tight body is enough for me to fck a girl, and if she has good qualities ontop of that why not give her a chance at dating? I've slept with plenty of 5-8s, probably an average of like 6.5. If you think you are some big shot because you only go for platinum blonde 9/10+s and forever alone because of it, then good for you, I'll be balls deep in the girl next door

What does you talking about California, Hong Kong, and Shanghai have to do with anything? What suggestion I made is wrong? That you are not in places with attractive people? That has nothing to do with those particular areas, they all have massive and diverse populations. I've been to each of them and Hong Kong and Shanghai are the same as anywhere else. Tangentially I find the Chinese mainlanders generally pretty repulsive as people and mostly unattractive, though I'm a fan of Asia in general. So many shrieking banshee voices in China, I have no idea why.

Way late to this but they have a point. Its difficult for a woman to find a decent committed guy they are attracted to. As far as just getting a date or some ass, its extremely easy for them. For guys, its harder to get a date and a lay. With that said, if a guy gets a date its easier to turn that into a relationship.

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I don’t need to cope, I have zero trouble bedding the 1%. Cope would be if I tricked my brain into getting an erection for a mediocre girl. Most girls have soft/flabby/skinnyfat bodies and most of the remainder that don’t have unfortunate faces. That’s just the way it is.

I am around a higher quality population than you are.

“Realistic standards” is pretty much the definition of settlement cope. Anytime someone says “I/we need to have realistic standards” it is a non subtle way of saying they need to lower standards.

Hey no hate but you sound like a narcissist douchebag lol

You think it is easy for a guy to find a decent committed girl? I've dated around a ton and most women are not worth more than a quick plow. Completely boring, entitled NPCs. Even the ones who are nice and with good jobs often have a blank look in their eyes like they aren't really present for anything. I would readily agree that 1% of the population, men and women, are worthy of relationships. If it is much harder for a guy to get a date and a lay and both genders are equally terrible as far as relationship prospects, then it is in fact easier for women because they have more options to choose from. Unfortunately for the male miscers who want to date only the top 1% but aren't top 1% themselves, enjoy being forever alone.

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Are you seriously bragging about fcking Asian girls as a white guy abroad? Yikes dude. I absolutely destroyed gorgeous women all throughout Asia while sitting around drinking Chang and Red Horse and playing pool. You're around a higher quality population than me? I would hardly call the population of Shanghai "high quality". Hong Kong has some decent women, and there is a superficial beauty to parts of California. If you think you are better than me and sleeping with better women--congratulations. What exactly are you hoping to achieve with this? I've also said I'm facially around a 6/10, if you are better than me than a round of applause for you, but it has nothing to do with anything.

This is the truth. Most girls are trendy NPC's that are addicted to social media and have no hobbies. They are boring because they have no hobbies and act like sheep.

Inb4 everyone has a hot gf that lifts with them and likes watching sports with them lol

No it’s not a competition it’s about the fact that ~1% of the population is attractive physically. That’s a statistic I will stand by.

I brought up those areas to refute your posit that I should go to South Carolina Trader Joe’s and concerts to change my mind. The right parts of HK, LA, SF, and SH have very attractive people from all around the world. Your Asian tirade was neat.

Stand by your statistic all you want. it made me laugh that you both said only 1% of the population is attractive, then went on to say if you go to the right areas then there are attractive people---something I've said this entire time: if you go to the right areas then you will be surrounded by attractive people, so if you are not surrounded by attractive people you are not going to the right places. I never said the South Carolina Trader Joe's population is attractive, but in my relatively affluent area in Denver they are. South Carolina Publix did have a disproportionally high number of babes though.

I'm glad you enjoyed my Asian tirade. I thought you namedropping Shanghai and Hong Kong like those are impressive areas was neat, as if China was some wondrous place to be in. At least you didn't mention somewhere like Beijing, if I'm forced into China for any extended period of time I could tolerate Shanghai the best.

No, my 1% includes those areas. I even walked across a big SEC college campus a few weeks ago and don’t think it jumped above 3%.

Congratulations on having very high standards where you think 97% of the population is unattractive and supposedly being able to sleep with those women then. You must be a top 5% male or so, another round of applause for you. That makes you an outlier with a heavily skewed perception of attractiveness, just like the women in this thread who want a top 1-2% guy, but the difference is they are not in that category themselves.

I guess the bigger point that I wasn’t clear about is that I don’t think my standards would change if I was a 5-6/10. I think I would rather buy hookers or feverishly masturbate than try to date an unattractive girl.

So I don’t really blame those people for complaining about dating being hard.

Not denying that

But wouldnt put up with a hot bish with a chit personality unless i could fuk and leave. Definitely not for a relationship. Srs. Legit dont give a fuk about people that were born a certain way. Way more respect for amputees or something trying to make chit happen/ not giving up as opposed to some bish who won the genetic lottery, contributes nothing but takes and thinks her chit dont stink

Wouldnt put looks #1, but of course its a factor. Just get a bad taste in my mouth when people say looks are #1

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Well, then you're just making an assumption based on thinking your mentality would be exactly the same if a significant part of your life was different. This is impossible to say, though there are definitely some ugly incel miscers who think they deserve 9s. You say I have low standards but, again, you are an outlier. Look at the okcupid graph that one dude posted, most guys' opinions of a woman's rating fells on the normal bell curve whereas women are heavily skewed to thinking most men are ugly. I also don't date unattractive girls, but if a cute girl is throwing herself at me there's no reason for me to not bust a nut. I will agree that at this point I would rather masturbate than date, it's such a fruitless endeavor, but most of the women I've slept with between 5-7 have required maybe 30 minutes of effort, which is more than I care to bother with most of the time.

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