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post 1574128311 02-20-2019, 04:12 PM
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I don't think the US administration seems to understand that Russia now has first strike capability and tour is over. We are really challenging them on this? Fuking lol. Chit is gonna heat up now boyos. One false detection, and they will have about 6 mins to decide whether it's time to retaliate or not. RIP
Putin added he will not take the first step to deploy missiles because the agreement has collapsed but ensured he would retaliate - his toughest remarks yet hinting to a potential arms race.

He told Russia's elite: "It's their right to think how they want. But can they count?

"I'm sure they can. Let them count the speed and the range of the weapons systems we are developing.

"Let them count, and then after that take the decisions which could create additional threats for our country...
post 1574128661 02-20-2019, 04:17 PM
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post 1574128921 02-20-2019, 04:20 PM
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post 1574129051 02-20-2019, 04:22 PM
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post 1574129121 02-20-2019, 04:22 PM
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Please. It's just political chest bumping. These arseholes have been threatening to push the button since the 50's.
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post 1574129201 02-20-2019, 04:23 PM
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post 1574129391 02-20-2019, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By AniMaLizTik
Please. It's just political chest bumping. These arseholes have been threatening to push the button since the 50's.
Thing is when they have developed the capability they have now to first strike, we really should take them more seriously and stop posturing in such stupid ways.
post 1574129541 02-20-2019, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Thing is when they have developed the capability they have now to first strike, we really should take them more seriously and stop posturing in such stupid ways.
ok. then what happens next? We are oppressed by corrupt Russians instead of corrupt lobbyist and politicians? nothing would change in the US if Russians took control except for who gets the payout from big pharma, tobacco, alcohol, prison systems, etc
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post 1574129771 02-20-2019, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By AniMaLizTik
ok. then what happens next? We are oppressed by corrupt Russians instead of corrupt lobbyist and politicians? nothing would change in the US if Russians took control
I'm saying we need to stop this mindless posturing. They have the upper hand in the arms race right now, and doing anything too provocative could lead to a cascade of escalation that will eventually result in them first striking us to prevent a hypothetical future nuclear war. It would be a catastrophic, surgical decapitation and they would force an immediate surrender. This is, obviously, not something that anyone wants. If we keep moving missiles near them, they will also be forced to increase production of hypersonic nuclear weapons. There will then be a 6 min OODA loop between launch and retaliation. 6 mins to decide whether much of the "civilized" world ends or not. That's not a very pretty situation to be in. The risks of a false detection are much higher then, and as I said before, they may rationally conclude nuclear war is inevitable and first strike us to prevent future losses.

Basically, we need to deescalate the situation ASAP, and surrender make whatever provisions necessary to ban the proliferation and production of these weapons. Russia would agree to it too if we moved missiles away. It's not like they want a nuclear war either.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Thing is when they have developed the capability they have now to first strike, we really should take them more seriously and stop posturing in such stupid ways.
Bro you really think we dont have weapons that will blow them the fuk up? They love advertising everything they have but the US keeps chit on lockdown no1 knows what we have
post 1574129831 02-20-2019, 04:32 PM
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What's the point of this thread? The fact that russians can nuke the usa? Wasn't this known for the last 60 years?
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post 1574130001 02-20-2019, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
What's the point of this thread? The fact that russians can nuke the usa? Wasn't this known for the last 60 years?
exactly its as if ppl forgot mutually assured destruction was a thing
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Originally Posted By Wwchamp
Bro you really think we dont have weapons that will blow them the fuk up? They love advertising everything they have but the US keeps chit on lockdown no1 knows what we have
We do not. Our generals and analysts thought the technology was "years away" in late 2017. Russia already has it.
post 1574130091 02-20-2019, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
What's the point of this thread? The fact that russians can nuke the usa? Wasn't this known for the last 60 years?
The difference is that Russia can effectively first strike us, and we are provoking them. And the difference is their new weapons make the risks of an accidental war considerably higher, so it is extremely important that we deescalate the situation.
Originally Posted By 2Chad4You
Strong understanding of politics OP lol. Trust me Russia doesn't want war with USA, they are just trying to appear as dangerous as possible to gain more leverage on the agenda they try to pull.
You guys are delusional. Your unconditional faith in our defenses is completely unfounded. And do I need to remind everyone what happened in Japan? We took nuclear action to prevent future casualties and a more costly war. If by their calculations, nuclear war ever becomes inevitable, you can expect them to first strike if they can and cripple our command structure and military.

They are dangerous. They are literally the most dangerous country besides the US on the planet. And actually, given their new tech, it's likely they are the most dangerous country or will be very soon.
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post 1574130221 02-20-2019, 04:37 PM
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No one wants a war with the US. Seems like fear mongering. He’s like puffing up his chest sayin who u finna try. Nothing new.
post 1574130341 02-20-2019, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
The difference is that Russia can effectively first strike us, and we are provoking them. And the difference is their new weapons make the risks of an accidental war considerably higher, so it is extremely important that we deescalate the situation.



You guys are delusional. Your unconditional faith in our defenses is completely unfounded. And do I need to remind everyone what happened in Japan? We took nuclear action to prevent future casualties and a more costly war. If by their calculations, nuclear war ever becomes inevitable, you can expect them to first strike if they can and cripple our command structure and military.
It doesn't matter who strikes first its called mutually assured destruction for a reason. You really think we dont have a few nuclear subs chilling in the blacksea w a couple missiles aimed st petersburg and moscow?
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jokes on you... there are nuclear submarines scattered on the eastern coast of Russia. Any sort of war-related aggression would result in nuclear warheads smashing that country. I'm not about flexing military might but if you think for a second that the United States isn't ready to defend the land, you're insane.
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What’s Putin’s issue anyways? He sure has a bone to pick all of the sudden . Even a moron knows it’s going to be the end period. I’d stfu if I was him.

Like he’s going to stop nuclear warhead cruise missiles launched off of submarines?
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Originally Posted By colbski
jokes on you... there are nuclear submarines scattered on the eastern coast of Russia. Any sort of war-related aggression would result in nuclear warheads smashing that country. I'm not about flexing military might but if you think for a second that the United States isn't ready to defend the land, you're insane.
You can't defend chit if they first strike you dude. All we could do is retaliate in vain or surrender. They also have missile defense systems just like we do. The difference is we have no defense against their new missiles.
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
What’s Putin’s issue anyways? He sure has a bone to pick all of the sudden . Even a moron knows it’s going to be the end period. I’d stfu if I was him
He's actually responding rationally. It was the US's actions that led to this. We violated the treaty, and we are STILL posturing when we fuking lost the race. Chit like this is probably why the secdef resigned. Our administration is being fuking retarded rn.
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OP hates America. What else is new?
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Originally Posted By wincel
You can't defend chit if they first strike you dude. All we could do is retaliate in vain or surrender. They also have missile defense systems just like we do. The difference is we have no defense against their new missiles.
Gonna need some sources that say they'll magically wreck all our ****
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Originally Posted By Dorich
OP hates America. What else is new?
No. I happen to live here, and it is in my best interests to not see chit escalate. I also don't want there to be a situation where these idiots only have 6 min to respond if they detect an attack. Imagine if this kind of thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

happened with only 6 mins. It gets much scarier.
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Gonna need some sources that say they'll magically wreck all our ****


Watch this video then tell me nothing has changed bro.
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Doesn't matter if you say they have "first strike" capability. To what end? Our nukes are distributed around the world via multiple launch sites, not to mention all of them that can be deployed via submarines and aircraft carriers. Russia isn't some terrorist state that is okay with seeing an end-times type event.
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