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So a little background on weighted push-ups:
- The bench press is overrated. Push-ups are underrated. The bench press is regarded as a Holy Grail exercise, yet it's not uniquely effective and responsible for more shoulder injuries than probably any other exercise. Push-ups are infinitely more shoulder friendly due to the ability of the shoulder blades to move freely instead of being pinned against the bench.
- Progressive push-ups build just as much muscle and bench press strength as bench pressing. Study #1:https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/A...w_CuRzkhMeN_0w
Study #2:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24983847
The product:
Here's a demo vid of it. I achieved a PR of 160 lbs for 7 reps.
info on the equipment:
- It's a practical and affordable apparatus that allows you to perform weighted push-ups independently up to 180 lbs and 225 lbs with a partner. I also have a second version that allows for loads up to 225 lbs independently and 270 lbs with a partner.
- all you need is an incline bench, a power rack, and a barbell to perform the movement (which just about every single gym will have, even planet fitness). The device attaches onto the barbell via an opening and closing mechanism and hand screws to secure it in place. The incline bench is needed to be placed up against the back of the device as once plates are loaded on, the device starts rotating backwards and the bench serves as an opposing force that prevents the device from rotating so that you're able to smoothly load the plates onto the device.
- This equipment solves the issue of not being able to do heavy loads practically and independently. As of now, trying to do them even with a partner, the plates will just slide all over the place - especially if you try and progress in increments and use multiple large and small plates - so they end up having to awkwardly hold them in place, and even then they'll usually be on your back in an uncomfortable spot, and there is of course no padding on the plates. If you have a partner with this device, you can perform the movement much easier as they can just slide the plates on the pole and then pull them off as soon as your set is done.
- The barbell at the top puts zero limitations on the movement. It is needed to un-rack and re-rack the equipment. It causes zero discomfort, it does not affect your balance, it does not interfere with the movement (as long as you have a decent amount of space to work with - about the same amount as you’d need for deadlifts), and it adds additional weight/resistance to the exercise. The only downside is vanity as it makes you look like buzz lightyear, but at the end of the day, function>vanity. Would you rather look good for the one hour you’re inside of the gym or the 23 hours that you’re outside of it? This might not be the coolest looking equipment ever - but it will provide results which is most important.
Would love to hear some feedback. Any questions/comments, shoot.
- The bench press is overrated. Push-ups are underrated. The bench press is regarded as a Holy Grail exercise, yet it's not uniquely effective and responsible for more shoulder injuries than probably any other exercise. Push-ups are infinitely more shoulder friendly due to the ability of the shoulder blades to move freely instead of being pinned against the bench.
- Progressive push-ups build just as much muscle and bench press strength as bench pressing. Study #1:https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/A...w_CuRzkhMeN_0w
Study #2:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24983847
The product:
Here's a demo vid of it. I achieved a PR of 160 lbs for 7 reps.
info on the equipment:
- It's a practical and affordable apparatus that allows you to perform weighted push-ups independently up to 180 lbs and 225 lbs with a partner. I also have a second version that allows for loads up to 225 lbs independently and 270 lbs with a partner.
- all you need is an incline bench, a power rack, and a barbell to perform the movement (which just about every single gym will have, even planet fitness). The device attaches onto the barbell via an opening and closing mechanism and hand screws to secure it in place. The incline bench is needed to be placed up against the back of the device as once plates are loaded on, the device starts rotating backwards and the bench serves as an opposing force that prevents the device from rotating so that you're able to smoothly load the plates onto the device.
- This equipment solves the issue of not being able to do heavy loads practically and independently. As of now, trying to do them even with a partner, the plates will just slide all over the place - especially if you try and progress in increments and use multiple large and small plates - so they end up having to awkwardly hold them in place, and even then they'll usually be on your back in an uncomfortable spot, and there is of course no padding on the plates. If you have a partner with this device, you can perform the movement much easier as they can just slide the plates on the pole and then pull them off as soon as your set is done.
- The barbell at the top puts zero limitations on the movement. It is needed to un-rack and re-rack the equipment. It causes zero discomfort, it does not affect your balance, it does not interfere with the movement (as long as you have a decent amount of space to work with - about the same amount as you’d need for deadlifts), and it adds additional weight/resistance to the exercise. The only downside is vanity as it makes you look like buzz lightyear, but at the end of the day, function>vanity. Would you rather look good for the one hour you’re inside of the gym or the 23 hours that you’re outside of it? This might not be the coolest looking equipment ever - but it will provide results which is most important.
Would love to hear some feedback. Any questions/comments, shoot.
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Looks cool but what the hell do you do when failing last rep? You cant rollover because the barbell blocks that movement.
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this is actually pretty cool
but you're right, the barbell being there just looks goofy as fuk.
may as well just design a backpack where you can load plates+put clips over it so it doesnt slide & then zip up the backpack, strap on, and push up tbh. it would be a humongous backpack requiring some room but it'd achieve the same exact thing as your concoction without the barbell
but you're right, the barbell being there just looks goofy as fuk.
may as well just design a backpack where you can load plates+put clips over it so it doesnt slide & then zip up the backpack, strap on, and push up tbh. it would be a humongous backpack requiring some room but it'd achieve the same exact thing as your concoction without the barbell
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99.9% of gym goers never do that exercise
good niche idea if you know how to market well
good niche idea if you know how to market well
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
That's the thing - I wouldn't recommend doing a weight that you cant perform at least 4 reps with. If you do want to do that, at least have a spotter that can remove the plates in case you fail. Just how it's not recommended to max out on bench without a spot as well.Looks cool but what the hell do you do when failing last rep? You cant rollover because the barbell blocks that movement.
Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
Hmmm, how would you still be able to perform it independently though without the barbell? This device is still usable without the barbell, but you'd need a partner to load on the plates as getting on a backpack over 100 lbs by yourself off of the floor or wherever else is extremely difficult.this is actually pretty cool
but you're right, the barbell being there just looks goofy as fuk.
may as well just design a backpack where you can load plates+put clips over it so it doesnt slide & then zip up the backpack, strap on, and push up tbh. it would be a humongous backpack requiring some room but it'd achieve the same exact thing as your concoction without the barbell
but you're right, the barbell being there just looks goofy as fuk.
may as well just design a backpack where you can load plates+put clips over it so it doesnt slide & then zip up the backpack, strap on, and push up tbh. it would be a humongous backpack requiring some room but it'd achieve the same exact thing as your concoction without the barbell
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Originally Posted By ASDFFFFDDDDVIEW⏩
Thanks. Yeah, it's really unfortunate because it's such a great exercise. Most guys cant even do over 45 lbs on weighted push-ups so this is really only marketable to intermediate/advanced hardcore lifters. But I'm ok with that, maybe it'll eventually help novice lifters catch onto the idea of weighted push-ups more so than they currently do.99.9% of gym goers never do that exercise
good niche idea if you know how to market well
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mirin solutionWouldn't it be easier to just date a fat girl and have her sit on your back while you do them?
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Originally Posted By BigB2019⏩
My calves skipped puberty, it's not my faultA moment of silence for cojone's calves everyone.
I train them 3x per week though, they just refuse to grow
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
yeah true, but what i have pictured in my head is this:That's the thing - I wouldn't recommend doing a weight that you cant perform at least 4 reps with. If you do want to do that, at least have a spotter that can remove the plates in case you fail. Just how it's not recommended to max out on bench without a spot as well.
Hmmm, how would you still be able to perform it independently though without the barbell? This device is still usable without the barbell, but you'd need a partner to load on the plates as getting on a backpack over 100 lbs by yourself off of the floor or wherever else is extremely difficult.
Hmmm, how would you still be able to perform it independently though without the barbell? This device is still usable without the barbell, but you'd need a partner to load on the plates as getting on a backpack over 100 lbs by yourself off of the floor or wherever else is extremely difficult.
say you have a backpack sitting upright on a bench or something higher up. you unzip it and there's little weight bearing thingy-mabobbers going out parralel to the ground/bottom of the backpack, just like those plate stands where the plates go when you're done lifting
load up plates, put clips on, then zip up backpack. you should be in like a quarter squat position to get the backpack on. all you gotta do is get down on knees in pushup position. plates at this point should look as if its laying directly ontop of you, but its not moving all around like in traditional backpacks
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
I see what you're saying. I actually tried that first, but the backpack doesn't stay upright once you start loading plates onto it. You could technically do it with the current device but it would make it a lot more difficult than just using the barbell. I agree it would definitely look more appealing though with a zip-cover and without the barbell attached though lolyeah true, but what i have pictured in my head is this:
say you have a backpack sitting upright on a bench or something higher up. you unzip it and there's little weight bearing thingy-mabobbers going out parralel to the ground/bottom of the backpack, just like those plate stands where the plates go when you're done lifting
load up plates, put clips on, then zip up backpack. you should be in like a quarter squat position to get the backpack on. all you gotta do is get down on knees in pushup position. plates at this point should look as if its laying directly ontop of you, but its not moving all around like in traditional backpacks
say you have a backpack sitting upright on a bench or something higher up. you unzip it and there's little weight bearing thingy-mabobbers going out parralel to the ground/bottom of the backpack, just like those plate stands where the plates go when you're done lifting
load up plates, put clips on, then zip up backpack. you should be in like a quarter squat position to get the backpack on. all you gotta do is get down on knees in pushup position. plates at this point should look as if its laying directly ontop of you, but its not moving all around like in traditional backpacks
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
try cycling/mountain biking/runningMy calves skipped puberty, it's not my fault
I train them 3x per week though, they just refuse to grow
I train them 3x per week though, they just refuse to grow
most cyclists and runners have massive claves and legs in general
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I actually like weighted push ups. The feeling of increased resistance and massively reduced velocity makes me hard.
To be honest, a little impractical with the need to load with the bar - BRB taking up more space than a cross-fitter. ALso think weighted push ups may be a little too hard for regular curls and bench gym bros.
To be honest, a little impractical with the need to load with the bar - BRB taking up more space than a cross-fitter. ALso think weighted push ups may be a little too hard for regular curls and bench gym bros.
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Originally Posted By derdo1234⏩
It's a great exercise for sure, and it's probably one of the best upper body mass building exercises out there. But still has plenty of downfalls (such as the ones listed in the OP) and you should always have at least a decent amount of exercise variance in your training for each body part. Weighted push-ups are an excellent closed chain exercise to implement alongside the bench. The problem was that there is no real way of doing them - especially independently - and that was what I set out to solve with this device.i dont know dude bench is a compound excercise and important since it targets multiple muscles better for muscle hyertrphy
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It's actually a cool idea. One of the reasons I never do weighted pushups is because I train alone, but something like this could work.
You might be better off using a longer spike on the back so you can use smaller plates, or maybe a 3-4 multi spike. That way you could create a version that doesn't require you to carry the barbell on your back too, because that's awkward as fuk. Just a hook off, and away you go.
The other problem I see is failing. Imagine going to failure and getting pinned face down lmao.
You might be better off using a longer spike on the back so you can use smaller plates, or maybe a 3-4 multi spike. That way you could create a version that doesn't require you to carry the barbell on your back too, because that's awkward as fuk. Just a hook off, and away you go.
The other problem I see is failing. Imagine going to failure and getting pinned face down lmao.
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Originally Posted By aleeboy⏩
It definitely is still a bit impractical, however - it's the most practical and affordable method as of now in my opinion. How else would one do 135+ lbs practically on their own? I don't know of any other methods that would outshine this one. There is the push-up harness, but it's still impractical and costs like $300 which is about triple the cost of what this would beI actually like weighted push ups. The feeling of increased resistance and massively reduced velocity makes me hard.
To be honest, a little impractical with the need to load with the bar - BRB taking up more space than a cross-fitter. ALso think weighted push ups may be a little too hard for regular curls and bench gym bros.
To be honest, a little impractical with the need to load with the bar - BRB taking up more space than a cross-fitter. ALso think weighted push ups may be a little too hard for regular curls and bench gym bros.
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-cant dump weight if you get pinned
-if you should trip and fall, the weiht attached to you could cause serious injury to so many parts of your body and any other people around you
-fukking lol @ how dumb it looks
Good luck op
-if you should trip and fall, the weiht attached to you could cause serious injury to so many parts of your body and any other people around you
-fukking lol @ how dumb it looks
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
Thanks man. You can still use the smaller plates with this/microload it. This device is much less awkward than it looks as well, it's very comfortable to use.It's actually a cool idea. One of the reasons I never do weighted pushups is because I train alone, but something like this could work.
You might be better off using a longer spike on the back so you can use smaller plates, or maybe a 3-4 multi spike. That way you could create a version that doesn't require you to carry the barbell on your back too, because that's awkward as fuk. Just a hook off, and away you go.
The other problem I see is failing. Imagine going to failure and getting pinned face down lmao.
You might be better off using a longer spike on the back so you can use smaller plates, or maybe a 3-4 multi spike. That way you could create a version that doesn't require you to carry the barbell on your back too, because that's awkward as fuk. Just a hook off, and away you go.
The other problem I see is failing. Imagine going to failure and getting pinned face down lmao.
I'm a bit confused on the multi-spike though. Would that make it more practical than how it currently is? I'm just having a hard time imagining it I guess
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Why not make the attachment to the barbell a hook or two of sorts.
So you can attach it to the barbell, load weights, lift up off of the barbell like you lift the bar off the rack for a squat, then do your push ups while maintaining the ability to roll over. Can just re-rack it on the barbell the same way it was de-racked.
So you can attach it to the barbell, load weights, lift up off of the barbell like you lift the bar off the rack for a squat, then do your push ups while maintaining the ability to roll over. Can just re-rack it on the barbell the same way it was de-racked.
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
I have proposed a solution. Attach hooks to backback so you can latch onto a barbell instead of moving the entire barbell to do the exercise. Obviously the hooks need to be strong enough to support the weight.That's the thing - I wouldn't recommend doing a weight that you cant perform at least 4 reps with. If you do want to do that, at least have a spotter that can remove the plates in case you fail. Just how it's not recommended to max out on bench without a spot as well.
The following schematic demonstrates what I have suggested.
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Originally Posted By gwem32170191⏩
No fair I thought it firstWhy not make the attachment to the barbell a hook or two of sorts.
So you can attach it to the barbell, load weights, lift up off of the barbell like you lift the bar off the rack for a squat, then do your push ups while maintaining the ability to roll over. Can just re-rack it on the barbell the same way it was de-racked.
So you can attach it to the barbell, load weights, lift up off of the barbell like you lift the bar off the rack for a squat, then do your push ups while maintaining the ability to roll over. Can just re-rack it on the barbell the same way it was de-racked.
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Originally Posted By Peacening⏩
- do not perform a weight that you cant manage at least 4 reps with to avoid failure. And even if you completely fail, you can still pull your knees in and stay on your hands/knees so that it wont be suffocating you.-cant dump weight if you get pinned
-if you should trip and fall, the weiht attached to you could cause serious injury to so many parts of your body and any other people around you
-fukking lol @ how dumb it looks
Good luck op
-if you should trip and fall, the weiht attached to you could cause serious injury to so many parts of your body and any other people around you
-fukking lol @ how dumb it looks
Good luck op
- There is risk with every single exercise that you go heavy on. The bar could slip on bench out of your hands and kill you, you could pass out on squats or after a deadlift, you could also trip on squats, etc.
- Hip thrusts look even gayer yet it's an extremely effective exercise for glutes. Stop focusing so much on vanity
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Contemplated this exact idea before brah. The problem is that the hooks would need to be so long that the barbell is way above your head making it very difficult to unrack and re-rack, and the device will rotate to an even higher degree and the bench would be harder to set-up in front of it, and then this would also get attacked for vanity because you'd like like an ornament or that you'd have question marks above your head. But I do srs appreciate the suggestion brahI have proposed a solution. Attach hooks to backback so you can latch onto a barball instead of moving the entire barbell to do the exercise. Obviously the hooks need to be strong enough to support the weight.
The following schematic demonstrates what I have suggested.
The following schematic demonstrates what I have suggested.
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Originally Posted By Workout4ever⏩
Have you used this? I had this exact device, alice pack + load trainer, and it's impossible to do weighted push-ups with. The frame isn't flat and digs into your back when you try to do push-ups (it was extremely painful when I tried it and it left a massive scar) and worst of all it's not independently usable.RIP Zyzz and Greg Plitt
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Originally Posted By cojones539⏩
Yea i just realized about this, maybe you could have the hooks reversed and instead the person could dismount from the barbell by stepping forwards instead of backpedalingContemplated this exact idea before brah. The problem is that the hooks would to be so long that the barbell is way above your head making it very difficult to unrack and re-rack, and the device will rotate to an even higher degree and the bench would be harder to set-up in front of it, and then this would also get attacked for vanity because you'd like like an ornament or that you'd have question marks above your head. But I do srs appreciate the suggestion brah
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Have you seen the Alice Frame with a loading pin?
https://www.roguefitness.com/alice-f...d-load-trainer
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04-04-2019, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
But then you'd have to re-rack the back pack backwards or duck under the barbell to re-rack it again. It would eliminate the barbell but it would be much more difficult for the userYea i just realized about this, maybe you could have the hooks reversed and instead the person could dismount from the barbell by stepping forwards instead of backpedaling
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04-04-2019, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Casca⏩
Yes, see my response above. It's literally impossible to use that for weighted push-ups, let alone independent weighted push-ups. I use to have one myself and gave it away after I couldn't find any use for itHave you seen the Alice Frame with a loading pin?
https://www.roguefitness.com/alice-f...d-load-trainer
https://www.roguefitness.com/alice-f...d-load-trainer
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04-04-2019, 12:43 AM
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I actually like the concept of this and it makes sense not having your back pinned against the bench.
What would be cool would be to incorporate a raise platform for the hands, so that you could get a deeper range of motion, or ability to change incline/decline of it.
I actually met the owner of rogue fitness and his wife on holiday in tulum and stayed in touch with them. Super cool guy and really intelligent too. If you are serious (im pretty high ngl and havent read your thread properly) but I could probably swing an intro for you? They might be interested in you / the product.
nevermind, looks like my buddy already has a better version of your product lol
What would be cool would be to incorporate a raise platform for the hands, so that you could get a deeper range of motion, or ability to change incline/decline of it.
I actually met the owner of rogue fitness and his wife on holiday in tulum and stayed in touch with them. Super cool guy and really intelligent too. If you are serious (im pretty high ngl and havent read your thread properly) but I could probably swing an intro for you? They might be interested in you / the product.
nevermind, looks like my buddy already has a better version of your product lol
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