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Thread: Seeing a non-natty at the gym is eye opening

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I'm 5'7'' 160 lbs of ripped muscle, Franco Columbu was 5'5'' and 180 lbs at the 1975 Mr Olympia, so to say 160 lbs of pure muscle at 5'7'' is laughable as a natty is a joke, when Franco was looking like a monster at a very similar height and weight, and yes Franco was on dat dere bicycle
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I only take issue with it when they try to sell useless products that clearly did not give them those gainz they are using as their credentials

but I do wonder when I see guys are in that iffy middle ground between either having good genetics or just using gear
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maybe theres hope for the misc yet
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props to the mods for not shutting this down tho, we all know this is the elephant in the room and there should at least be one thread where we can talk about our feels within some bounds.
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Originally Posted By devin45k⏩
Your friend seems weak-minded if he cant even finish workouts while he is off.
i stand by this being the reason 75% of people that use absolutely blow up when they start, they go from half assing it to "chit i have __ weeks to get as much out of this as possible" and go nuts to the wall everyday for the first time in their life. On the flip side you have guys who have trained hard for years that start and are incredibly underwhelmed with the results
Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Not everyone cares about training for years on end on a highly specific program. Calculating percentages, progressive over-load, deloads, etc. They don't want weigh/measure/track their food obsessively every day. They want to enjoy a burger, pizza, beer on a regular occasion, etc. They just want to get in the gym and lift in a manner that's enjoyable and have a physique that's aesthetic.



You can spend hours on end each week obsessing over your optimal workout plan that puts on the optimal amount of strength/size. For an entire lifetime. But to what end? The guy that goes enhanced can achieve their goals in a 1/4 of the time if not faster. You can literally spend 30 years chasing a dream/goal and never achieve it as a natty. Whereas with the same hard work, dedication and a little supplementation you achieve that goal in 3-5 years and easily maintain it for the following 25 years.





At the end of the day its a personal choice. Some people choose to achieve their goal and life the life they want and are willing to do what's necessary to do so. Other's are willing to grind for years on end to never realize their full potential or achieve their goals. If the process is what you love and the outcome isn't as important then staying natty just makes more sense.



I won't even get into genetic or other limiting factors. Life isn't fair. Some guys can just barely touch weights and eat whatever and have a better physique/strength level then guys that grind for 10+ years.
on spread, everything here is 100% truth, and as anyone that doesn't lie to themselves can tell you the flexibility it provides with diet makes it such a quality of life improvement for people that care what they look like it's beyond comprehension. Which is why a certain flavor is so abused especially by older guys
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Didnt see this until KenKong quoted it. Please don't write "no one". I have been at it around 2 years now and am still barely a novice. But I spent the two years in a gym so never needed to believe the "how to easily triple your deadlift and see your abs in 2 months" garbage. Anyone who actually goes to a gym knows the truth. But it doesn't mean we cannot enjoy the hobby.
You're in the minority whether you believe that or not, i have had guys who have lifted for years talk about competing but are gonna stay natural... Not even joking i've heardtwodifferent individuals say they want to stay natty and make it to ifbb classic status, i still have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact there are at least 2 people out there that think that's possible. I've also been asked by one person if (and i swear on my fcking life) Ronnie Coleman was natural. Let that one sink in for a second
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
And what's funny about my post?
Not your post ... just you in general. I remember when Trolling use to mean something
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post 1579355471 05-03-2019, 09:22 AM
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This is Franco Columbu
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh⏩
Not your post ... just you in general. I remember when Trolling use to mean something
Some people are just angry because I'm exposing the truth
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
I've also been asked by one person if (and i swear on my fcking life) Ronnie Coleman was natural. Let that one sink in for a second
Not even gonna lie... I would of straight up told them he was..



YEEEEAH BUDDY... LIGHT WEIGHT
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post 1579355661 05-03-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Some people are just angry because I'm exposing the truth
i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. we have beautiful people and we have ugly people. just like any race. I for 1 am a great person, have great friends, and i take care of every one that is in my life and i am glad to do it, and for that i have people that love me around me. also, indian parents are one of the best parents you can have. sometimes they can be really strict, but they will take care of you no matter what, and they will buy you what ever it is that you need. as long as your not a selfish dick head. Also, we all have great jobs, lots of money and a family that we all love and take care off. suck my dick op suck my dick.
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh⏩
i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. we have beautiful people and we have ugly people. just like any race. I for 1 am a great person, have great friends, and i take care of every one that is in my life and i am glad to do it, and for that i have people that love me around me. also, indian parents are one of the best parents you can have. sometimes they can be really strict, but they will take care of you no matter what, and they will buy you what ever it is that you need. as long as your not a selfish dick head. Also, we all have great jobs, lots of money and a family that we all love and take care off. suck my dick op suck my dick.
You look white to me. Enjoy your bicycle ride though, just never claim to be natty, please
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
I'm 5'7'' 160 lbs of ripped muscle, Franco Columbu was 5'5'' and 180 lbs at the 1975 Mr Olympia, so to say 160 lbs of pure muscle at 5'7'' is laughable as a natty is a joke, when Franco was looking like a monster at a very similar height and weight, and yes Franco was on dat dere bicycle
I hope I'm reading your message wrong. .

Lets just blow past your assumption that you at 160 pounds, is at the same body-fat levels as Frankie at 180 pounds (When in reality, if you were to hit competition level leanness, you'd be closer to 145 lbs) You are then stating that 20 pounds of pure lean muscle, on a 5'5"-5'7" frame, isn't a huge difference?
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Some people are just angry because I'm exposing the truth
I didn’t read any of your other post because red but I’ll promise you no one is mad.

And what a person weighs is not an indication of natty or not. Brb TJ dillashaw at 135 gassed to the tits.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
You look white to me. Enjoy your bicycle ride though, just never claim to be natty, please
Im natty as natty light bruh... deal with it
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh⏩
Not even gonna lie... I would of straight up told them he was..



YEEEEAH BUDDY... LIGHT WEIGHT
hit em with the classic "idk man maybe, he was famous for being able to eat like a vacuum"
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post 1579356191 05-03-2019, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
I hope I'm reading your message wrong. .

Lets just blow past your assumption that you at 160 pounds, is at the same body-fat levels as Frankie at 180 pounds (When in reality, if you were to hit competition level leanness, you'd be closer to 145 lbs) You are then stating that 20 pounds of pure lean muscle, on a 5'5"-5'7" frame, isn't a huge difference?
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
I didn’t read any of your other post because red but I’ll promise you no one is mad.

And what a person weighs is not an indication of natty or not. Brb TJ dillashaw at 135 gassed to the tits.
Bobby I already know you ain't natty, relax
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
So you are more ripped than a former Olympia champion?
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
lol
and taking into account that Dom is a decently looking natural.
are we assuming Dom is natural?

plenty of fake natties pumpin needles in their butt but not everybody looks like the next Ronnie Coleman
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
are we assuming Dom is natural?

plenty of fake natties pumpin needles in their butt but not everybody looks like the next Ronnie Coleman
Also this. You cannot go by appearance only. I know plenty of idiots who abuse OJ and look like they barely lift.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
So I am legit impressed mods are even allowing such a thread to exist without it being shut down and people banned at the moment. I can only assume since its mostly a civil discussion is why its still open... honestly $hitty trolls like you will end up fkng a good thing up... but carry on.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
You had me believing that you believed what you were saying for a while man, but you over-reached and now it's obvious you're a troll. Gotddang, well played. Tempted to rep (srs)
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Bobby I already know you ain't natty, relax
Can we do away with bottom feeders like this guy? FFS
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
What?? Dude if your gonna troll at least figure out a proper bench to squat to deadlift ratio.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Bobby I already know you ain't natty, relax
Lol that has no relevance whatsoever...I don’t claim natty you soy-packed, potato.
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160 lbs in your 40s?? I shudder to think what you weighed in your 20s.

Armies exposed as an angry middle aged soyboy manlet twink
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
What?? Dude if your gonna troll at least figure out a proper bench to squat to deadlift ratio.
He laid the groundwork earlier saying his deadlift was lacking.

I always prefer to troll by asking people if you're under 6'0" and under 200 lbs, are you really even a man? Especially with this Armies fella, how many boys in high school are over 57"' and 160 lbs.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
Go ahead and get those pics and videos loaded up for us, babe. Inb4 “I don’t record it”. You’re aren’t pressing 2x be at 42, natty...sorry.
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Originally Posted By JussKnowJulian⏩
Worked out with a friend when he revoked his natty card for the first time. Watched him blow up like a balloon and once he got off he shot back down to reality. His lifts went up like crazy and dude was killin it in the gym srsly. After he got off tho it was extremely depressing for me to hear him always talking about gear and how he needs it but he’s just waiting for his trainer to let him know. When I worked out with him when he was off he couldn’t even finish the workouts sometimes. He’s back on again but haven’t trained with him in a while due to conflicting schedules.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
Yes I'm as ripped, if not more ripped than Franco, if you don't believe me look at my stats, 5'7'' 160 lbs 320 lb bench press, 480 lb squat and 385 lb deadlift, at my age (42) and body weight you know I'm all muscle and no fat, oh, and all this being truly 100% natty (you mad?)
Lol, ok than, post a pic and vids of your lifts or you're just a terrible troll job.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩
I'm 5'7'' 160 lbs of ripped muscle, Franco Columbu was 5'5'' and 180 lbs at the 1975 Mr Olympia, so to say 160 lbs of pure muscle at 5'7'' is laughable as a natty is a joke, when Franco was looking like a monster at a very similar height and weight, and yes Franco was on dat dere bicycle
bigger than ryback and serge nubret.
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