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Thread: HBO's Game of Thrones - Open Discussion - Final Season VIII

post 1579616041 05-07-2019, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
Also tyrion spoke about the baby at the gate but euron doesnt question how he knows about it
I mean, he did have a conversation with Qyburn, that no one else was really privy to. For all he knows, he mentioned that his sister is preg and that's why Tyrion stormed up to her and mentioned it.
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
In season 7 when the unsullied sailed to Casterly Rock, Euron surprised them and sank the fleet. Jamie outmaneuvered Tyrion by sacrificing the Rock to take High Garden. Dany flew in fornthe Loot Train battle the next episode.
Which episode was that exactly i will watch it again tonight
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I mean, he did have a conversation with Qyburn, that no one else was really privy to. For all he knows, he mentioned that his sister is preg and that's why Tyrion stormed up to her and mentioned it.


Yeah Qyburn caught up with Tyrion about the latest news in King's Landing.

The level of cope from you is hilarious.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I mean, he did have a conversation with Qyburn, that no one else was really privy to. For all he knows, he mentioned that his sister is preg and that's why Tyrion stormed up to her and mentioned it.
Lolwut? Tyrion has known she was pregnant since last season.
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Originally Posted By SkinnyPhatBrah⏩
FYI Corey is actually two people writing in collaboration.

Agree that GRRM clearly hit writers block though. He made his story too big and now can't finish it.

All the stuff that he planned hasn't occurred - the 5 year time skip (which would have been used to explain Arya coming back as an assassin - 5 years being taught by the Faceless Men instead of a few months, etc) - he gave up on it as he realised he was writing too many flashback scenes to explain the intervening 5 years.

The story got away from him. it's a shame, but that's how it is.
He could easily reign it in with WoW... just kill off a few characters to trim the overall story. And Get Dany to Westeros already... Jesus Christ.
post 1579616241 05-07-2019, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
Ilythia was in S1 bc that's when Spartacus got her pregnant. I think Glaber was in S1 too.
He is, one of the major characters, too.
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
Which episode was that exactly i will watch it again tonight
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post 1579616281 05-07-2019, 12:42 PM
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I didn't find it difficult to believe Cersei not attacking Dany / Tyrion etc, though it was about self-preservation and not honor or whatever.

-Cersei and Euron are exposed on the wall, and Drogon is way back there ready to pounce if chit went sideways
-Drogon is massive compared to Rhaegal and would not have been NEARLY as easy to drop, I sure as phuck believe he could have taken out that entire section of wall before going down
-Dany was out of range of the regular archers, so they'd be trying to hit her tiny body with the scorpions and thus leaving an opening for Drogon to attack


Drogon is the reason Dany and Tyrion went there to negotiate Cersei's surrender, because he alone could probably still raze King's Landing. Simply put, he was their protection. Drogon could just throw his body at them and kill everyone in that section of wall
post 1579616291 05-07-2019, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
Which episode was that exactly i will watch it again tonight
See above, S07E03
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Lolwut? Tyrion has known she was pregnant since last season.
I'm talking about Euron you potato. Qyborn and Tyrion had a lengthy convo during their parlay, for all he knows that's how Tyrion found out about her being preg.
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
Ilythia was in S1 bc that's when Spartacus got her pregnant. I think Glaber was in S1 too.
You’re right. My bad. Not sure how much Glaber was in it in S1 until the last few eps. Seems like both were featured a lot more in S2.

Edit: maybe I need to watch it again and my memory is just failing me lol
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
Yes the writng isn't the same but lets not act like it isn't still well above most everything else currently on TV.
No, it really isn't. You are letting your attachment to the show blind your judgment. Think of it this way: if this was a new show with some generic name that you knew nothing about, your judgment on the writing/story would be completely different.
post 1579616391 05-07-2019, 12:43 PM
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Spartacus was definitely the GOAT show and what added to its greatness was it wasnt milked. I had its few seasons, served its purpose and it was over plus the best dialog ever.

Black sails is also another great show and of course vikings
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post 1579616571 05-07-2019, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Neither is this from S6 on lol. It’s like 2 completely different shows. It’s painful to see what they’ve done to Tyrion’s character (and what they did to Littlefinger). Two of the most interesting guys in the entire show... and one’s dead... and the other one might as well be for all he’s done lately.
Littlefingers long cons were great but at some point he becomes useless because the end is actually here. He ran out of ways to take advantage of the chaotic ladder he shaped bc the story was inevitably going to move away from him.

Tyrion being a Stark level politician now is bad in retrospect but I am deliberately choosing to believe his arc on the show goes from smart with no respect overall to meh with a lot of sway. How he interacts with Varys/Cersei/Jamie over the next 2 episodes will be what I ultimately take away from him. Tyrion in the books goes from smart and good natured overall to very dark when he goes into exile. The show didn't have time to flesh that storyline all the way out.
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post 1579616581 05-07-2019, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I'm talking about Euron you potato. Qyborn and Tyrion had a lengthy convo during their parlay, for all he knows that's how Tyrion found out about her being preg.
Seemed pretty obvious based on facial reactions that the others were magically able to hear their conversation.
post 1579616651 05-07-2019, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
The level of cope from you is hilarious.
He is still on tilt for the red squares. Can't even remember what happened in the show at this rate.

post 1579616691 05-07-2019, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
Spartacus was definitely the GOAT show and what added to its greatness was it wasnt milked. I had its few seasons, served its purpose and it was over plus the best dialog ever.

Black sails is also another great show and of course vikings
Black Sails fell off a cliff when Charles Vane died. Vikings started to suck around the whole Paris-invasion arc.

Almost every show becomes stale in the end.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Seemed pretty obvious based on facial reactions that the others were magically able to hear their conversation.
When they were discussing the terms of surrender for each? I didn't get that vibe when watching it
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
He is still on tilt for the red squares. Can't even remember what happened in the show at this rate.

You like that CP comment I see

post 1579616931 05-07-2019, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
When they were discussing the terms of surrender for each? I didn't get that vibe when watching it
I mean, Missandei saying "Dracarys" as her last words were obviously meant for Dany to hear. She didn’t scream it if I remember correctly. Seemed like they could all hear everything to me. Apparently they all had those Avengers earpieces.
post 1579617111 05-07-2019, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
No, it really isn't. You are letting your attachment to the show blind your judgment. Think of it this way: if this was a new show with some generic name that you knew nothing about, your judgment on the writing/story would be completely different.
While I am biased towards the show I don't think it comes close to the majority of programs currently out there. Billions and Ozark are the only other shows I'm currently watching that are in mid stream that come close to GOT for me. The shows very popular amongst the masses (e.g. Greys Anatomy) are mediocre to me.

Billions is beginning to drop for me bc the storyline is becoming too complicated with unnecessary pop culture references. It's beginning (imo) to insist upon itself with every character dropping rare phrases or references that no one uses in everyday life.
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post 1579617171 05-07-2019, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
Littlefingers long cons were great but at some point he becomes useless because the end is actually here. He ran out of ways to take advantage of the chaotic ladder he shaped bc the story was inevitably going to move away from him.

Tyrion being a Stark level politician now is bad in retrospect but I am deliberately choosing to believe his arc on the show goes from smart with no respect overall to meh with a lot of sway. How he interacts with Varys/Cersei/Jamie over the next 2 episodes will be what I ultimately take away from him. Tyrion in the books goes from smart and good natured overall to very dark when he goes into exile. The show didn't have time to flesh that storyline all the way out.
Varys is still around isn’t he? And he’s basically another version of Littlefinger. I would have liked to have seen him (Littlefinger) side with Cersei since Varys is on the other side. He would actually been a much better “Hand of the King” than Qyburn.
post 1579617211 05-07-2019, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
I mean, Missandei saying "Dracarys" as her last words were obviously meant for Dany to hear. She didn’t scream it if I remember correctly. Seemed like they could all hear everything to me. Apparently they all had those Avengers earpieces.



Doesn't look like everyone is able to hear everything. Sounds like just the 2 right hand men are having the convo with each other at first.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I mean, he did have a conversation with Qyburn, that no one else was really privy to. For all he knows, he mentioned that his sister is preg and that's why Tyrion stormed up to her and mentioned it.
Ahh, nope

Tyrion at 2:23

"you're pregnant"

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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Ahh, nope

Jesus I'm sick of you being a potato during this convo and not able to keep up boyo. Stop commenting for awhile until you do please.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
autistic screeching
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Ahh, nope

Tyrion at 2:23

"you're pregnant"

Ya Tyrion already knew, but from Eurons point of view, Qyburn could have said something to him before he approached Cersei.
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Originally Posted By dj006xx⏩
Y you mad tho
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
While I am biased towards the show I don't think it comes close to the majority of programs currently out there. Billions and Ozark are the only other shows I'm currently watching that are in mid stream that come close to GOT for me. The shows very popular amongst the masses (e.g. Greys Anatomy) are mediocre to me.

Billions is beginning to drop for me bc the storyline is becoming too complicated with unnecessary pop culture references. It's beginning (imo) to insist upon itself with every character dropping rare phrases or references that no one uses in everyday life.
The only thing I hated about Billions was John Malkovich playing a Russian oligarch. His accent was horrid lol. I see your point though.

Ozark is a great call. Excellent show.
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Varys is still around isn’t he? And he’s basically another version of Littlefinger. I would have liked to have seen him (Littlefinger) side with Cersei since Varys is on the other side. He would actually been a much better “Hand of the King” than Qyburn.
I like that angle but the show shelfed Varys during the WW story because he's not useful there. His maneuvering to kill Dany now might be an interesting way to finish his arc. I think the truncated timelines are the main reason for all of the current disappointments.

Good discussion btw. Enjoy this level of banter without personal shots and be all end all statements.
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