I know it's gotten worse. And you're right, social media has dropped a nuclear bomb on dating, but women still like to feel validation through male interest. That includes being cold approached.

However, how you approach them is extremely important. If your approach immediately puts them on guard, it's over for you. Like Pondus said, you need build rapport first and let her give you the signal she's interested. Though sometimes picking up the signal can be hard. It takes practice.

If you're getting Bert -stared before you can even trip over your own words it's because your vibe is terrible, you're batting out of your league, or you're just plain unattractive to women.

There's no doubt you're a weird guy, Peach, but I will say that the deck is stacked against you being in London. Not an ideal place to meet women unless you're a Chad.

All I say is hey or hi cold approaching just gets you Bert stared and ruins your confidence

Every pub is a sausage fest! Bars are 50 50 but the women never go alone only with a few other girls and a guy there’s always that one c0cknlocking guy

It is true.... women go to bars with who they know not alone I’ve proved it and I’ll prove it again pubs are full of old men and couples aswell

Bars I've been to is like 3/1 ratio men. Same with the gym. Casinos seem to have way more men. Any place that isnt designed for couples is like this.

I just posted a video to show that people dont approach irl a d it gets ignored of course. This is why posting on the misc is pointless people ignore the facts

I'm only interested in white chicks. Am I screwed?

It's like the worst feeling ever. Knowing what you want, but not being able to get it. Feelsbadman.

If you're referring to the video of the bustling NYC street in the middle of a work day, you'd be hard pressed to find a worse example to support your argument.

You certainly are going to get Bert-stared in MOST cases trying to approach women in the middle of a fast-moving crowd where everyone has somewhere to be and chit to do. People don't like being interrupted when they're trying to get places/stuff done. If there's a break and it doesn't inconvenience the person, you have a chance, but certainly not when you're in a metaphorical stampede.

You'd be lucky to avoid being assaulted for phucking up the flow.

You're either reaching and know you're using bad-faith examples to support your weak-ass argument or you're really just stupid.

Yea I use to go casinos all the time the women there never go alone either

Just give up you dumb twat. You're absolutely hopeless

I hate it brah.

I kind of hate when women show me IOI because I usually won't apporach or I'm just minding my own business. Then I see her interest wane and it's like I'm being rejected without even wanting to speAk to her. I assume that in her mind she is thinking about how she finds me attractive but that I'm a pussy. Women seem to like rejecting men that have not even shown an interest in them.

Storytim pls. I'd like to know what was said and done on both sides.They don't think you are a pussy. YOU think you are a pussy for letting the moment slip away and are projecting.

I don't know if you guys realize how subtle IOI's are. Which is why I just go for a want until I see stronger IOI's.

Her's a story of how subtle it can be AND me pussing out.

I was out bar hopping with my friend and his G/F and we ended up at a super chill brew pub. I had never been there before, there were some bar games, art on the walls and only super large tables to stand at. It's like there is NO way not to be social there. No one really has their back turned to anyone.

I'm exploring the place and notice what seems to be a birthday party in the back. I nonchalantly asked who's birthday to the group and one of the girls answered and offered me cake. We locked eyes smiled said a few more words and then I continued looking at the art. I thought she was cute, but I wasn't in pickup mode yet. (Missed opportunity #1)

I then go over to the hook and ring type game, but this one is actually a golf ball and a cup. Nearly impossible to get it to land. This same girl walks over and just watched me play. I jokingly vent my frustration that it's impossible and she laughs. At this point I get that she's making herself available to me, but my friends walk over and start chatting and she walks away. (missed opportunity #2)

My friends and I go over to one of the tables to finish our beers, but I position myself, so I can see her and she can see me. She checks me out a few times and I mention to my friends that she's cute, and they confirm she's eyeing me. Then they started pressuring me to go talk to her, but I don't because that put me in the wrong frame of mind. It has to be natural to me. (missed opportunity #3)

Her group appears to be getting ready to leave. The table my friends and I are at is by the door and she goes over by the door first, w/out her friends and just starts hovering. It's obvious to me and my friends that she's making her self available for me to talk to her again, but I once again pussy out, but it felt forced with them watching me. (missed opportunity #4)

She walks out the door with her friends and actually looks back at me one last time before walking down the sidewalk. At this point I'm so pissed at all the missed opportunities that I pretty much just freeze. I know I could have jogged out real quick, asked her name and got her number, but I don't. (missed opportunity #5)

I rejected her FIVE ****ing times because I was too pussy to just talk to her. I'm certain she left feeling disappointed and wondered why I didn't talk to her.

This all happened in the span of about 25 minutes. Now, I know I said subtle, but write as if it wasn't subtle. Once you recognize how subtle IOI is and start seeing it, it's like a flashing green light over their heads. Most guys wouldn't have noticed any of them.

But when you get them, you literally just have to take action the first chance you get, but you don't isolate. You reciprocate availability and have a conversation, as if she's just another person, not a target. Then at some point you just say, "I have to go. We should could continue this another time." and hand her your phone.

Game recognizes game.

Together we'd own a night affirming IoI and pointing out opportunities the other may have missed.

Brb taking mental notes. Dead srs.


You, Archangel, and Muzzlr have brought some genuine advice into this thread and I appreciate it. I'll need to mentally train myself to spot IOI's because I realized I missed 2 from some milfs at the bar.

I didn't realize how subtle they could be until I started reading these examples.

Yeah, it's pretty much anytime they come closer to you, or do something that you realize is odd or off, it's their way of showing interest. You just have to capitalize on it. I have to remind myself about this too.

I wish I could cold approach. I want to and need to. Bars? Don't no **** about bars. Sometimes I think abouting flirting with the cashier, but my brain just stops me.

My social skills fell like a rock off a cliff ever since I left retail. Glad to be making way more money, but no one my age at this small office.

I gotta try though. I should have 3-4 women in rotation right now smh. There's a boring ass suitcase college near me that always seem quiet, but I do wonder if there's something going down

Don’t worry about not cold approaching you ain’t missing anything but rejection and Bert stares

Daygame and others dont work for me🙄

Once again downtown working with thousands of people and when you go anywhere but inside the departments nobody is talking to each other. I've been doing this for at least 3 years now and it's the same. Nobody approaches or talks to strangers period

Documenting a failure.

I went to the security desk and saw that sloot. I joked with her a bit, had some light conversation. I wanted to ask for her number, but then I remembered she has a long distance bf. This information came from someone else, but that thought ruined my motivation. I get really nervous around this one for some reason, not stupidly nervous, but nervous enough to second guess everything I say. Anyways, I didn't to jack chit, and I just wasn't feeling confident. I think it's the fear of being rejected by someone I'd have to see everyday. It was a really embarrassing feeling in school.

Any tips for overcoming self conscious nervousness? I no longer consider her an "option" for the bf reason. She might not be with him anymore, but I don't really care to try to get that information out of her.


The sloot I mentioned for the unawares:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1587341821



One day I will have a success story to share.

Until she confirms it, this bf isn't real. he is a myth. Right now, she is engaging with you. That fear doesn't really go away, you just learn to push through. Think of it like stage fright. Ever had to perform solo in front of people? It's scary at first, but once you start singing, it fades away, and it gets easier every time.

She may reject you, and that's ok. I doubt it would change anything. Hell, you can even casually joke about it when you see her. It'll be ok man, your brain is just fukking with you. Let's say she does reject you. Don't act heartbroken. Don't act any different. Think of it like losing a game of pick up basketball. It sucks, but you won't lose sleep over it.

She won't think you're weird for hitting on her, she's a girl. Their job is to be hit on. Thing is, she might want to date you, but most girls aren't gonna ask you out. Only one way to find out man.

Eliminate all thoughts of "she might have a bf", and invite her somewhere with just the two of you. Besides, do you really want to look back on this one day and wonder whatcouldhave happened? For all we know, she gives the world's best head and you're missing out as I type this. She might also be the world's biggest bitch and you think "Why did I even want this again?".

Either way, just do it.

JUST. TAKE. THE. PLUNGE. Fear is normal, JUST DO IT.

You just meet people anywhere, swap contact info, follow up, and make plans to do stuff together. If they like you they'll keep wanting to hang out, if not, they wont.

That does not happen irl outside of college campus

Lol just came back from cinema was out at 9pm pub was packed and the only women there are with another girl or mostly guys you can’t even meet people in pubs

Places are just too fast paced and crowded now days. Its like the mouse utopia experiment happening now. It's just so hard to go out and do anything anymore without a good group of friends because there are so many people. Pubs and restaurants are literally packed full and overflowing in my city.

There isn't anywhere you can go besides a Casino or something where there aren't a million people.

Nah, I'm on no fap. Bout to start doing this