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post 1590855221 11-02-2019, 09:03 AM
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post 1590855361 11-02-2019, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By pogue
I would delete this post, but it's so dumb I feel like I have to reply against it.



You are under the misguided impression that "masculinity" is under threat. .
Explain where the term toxic masculinity comes from then lol
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post 1590855411 11-02-2019, 09:09 AM
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if it wasn't for the misc, I wouldn't never have thought to use the internet for productivity and learning. srs

before that i mainly just got my information from school and text books lmao

The first thread that made me think the misc was more than just a forum for people who work out(way before the incel bullchit) was the thread about SEO and black hat for passive income.

The only thing remotely incel back in those days were the TFW guy but now he is in the meme grave yard and now its all about being pilled, and it was more supportive than it was offensive.

unfortunately traffic died and the only ones left sticking around are stuck with the new wave posters who never got a chance to see how the old days were.

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post 1590855561 11-02-2019, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
Did not read a single fukin word.

You're clueless and you're inability to see how the media is weaponising people against each other and putting bb.com in the same camp as actual cults is proof of this.

Enjoy your stupidity.
I read the entirety of your post and replied back making my points. You simply come back at me calling me stupid. Can you not reply back with a point toanyof my replies or questions I asked you?
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so you're an idiot? got it.
I suggest the both of you read my signature before you reply any further with vitriolic comments. I am here to have acivildiscussion.
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order 66 vox
No one go after Vox. I can't make this serious enough. If I catch anyone going after any employees or staff at Vox, I will ban you.
post 1590855971 11-02-2019, 09:28 AM
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So, I got a reply back from one of the producers of the Vox episode on cults. I attempted to correct him, but we'll see if he further replies.DO NOT HARASS THIS PERSON!!!. I will be watching his mentions on Twitter and if I see harassment towards him I will trace it back to the individual(s) here who perpetuated it and you will be banned.



The replies ER made here I remember as being in the very low number account. I remember him posting something about his penis size and a few other miscellaneous things, but I don't recall him posting his "day of vengeance" video here prior to the massacre. Correct me if I'm wrong.
post 1590856001 11-02-2019, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
There are a larger than normal number of posters on here who have a self appointed remit to post fairly extreme mysoginistic, homophobic and racist comments that would not wash in RL and they glory in it.
This, and I don't know why people and mods wash over it thinking they'll eventually grow out of it. Because who cares if they do or don't, they're saying the words now and you should believe them. What's even more concerning is seemingly nothing is done about it. It's pretty obvious anyone can make another account now after they've been banned so it's not taken that seriously. I'm not advocating for some ****gy safe spaces but at the same time I've seen people here say that all women deserve to die and suffer, we should murder all gays, advocating for genocide, some dude posting about evil jews for over a year now. Clearly they're the minority of users but the site sure doesn't help its image by not stopping any of it.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
Explain where the term toxic masculinity comes from then lol
I haven't the slightest idea of the origin of that phrase. But, that's irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
post 1590856091 11-02-2019, 09:31 AM
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Incels and The Misc and other Red Pilled forums and idealisms about sex and relationships came about as a natural consequence of the vast majority of males not getting to have as much sex as the vast majority of females in modern society. The things we have in common with an actual cult are few and far between that the demagogue media are exaggerating.

post 1590856541 11-02-2019, 09:42 AM
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Vox is terrible in reporting standards. It has went down the drain

when will you realise that mainstream media has stopped listening to reason?
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post 1590856581 11-02-2019, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By sword_
Not sure about Vox but I saw the Netflix: Explained on cults. I think due to the fact that the incel culture has metastasized over to our forum and we see what it has done as a result. We are like *******-lite to some on the outside. It doesn't help that Elliot Rodger posted here, although it was only a few posts.

I know that sort of negativity exists here but I've been on the forum for a long time and remember when it wasn't like that and I like to think that we are better than what these media outlets portray us as but I can certainly see why someone would label us as such!
I thought it was closer to what you were saying. It's not that the lifting forums or even main misc itself are gonna brainwash you into sending you life saving to Boise Idaho (reminded me to reup my sup stack) it's that pudding brains will get exposed to dumb things like red pill theory/MGTOW/FA and get indoctrinated into those beliefs. Obviously this is on going to apply to a fraction of posters.
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post 1590857131 11-02-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Kiop
sadly they dont understand the misc
they are misinformed and filled with
projected fake and deceived news
bring them, and i will teach them and
inform them that misc is not a ****
Cliffs:

They're unaware.
post 1590857201 11-02-2019, 10:08 AM
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We are under attack.


Vox is garbage though.
post 1590857361 11-02-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By pogue
I haven't the slightest idea of the origin of that phrase. But, that's irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
No it's not. Your point is entirely based on the statement that there's no attack on masculinity. If you're not aware of the phrase "toxic masculinity" then you are unaware of the mindset of those attacking masculinity. Where do you think the gillette fiasco came from? Do you think the feminist CEO manifested that out of thin air just to antagonize her customers?
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post 1590857551 11-02-2019, 10:21 AM
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Oh ****! It's pogue! Hope all is well, bro.



Bodybuilding.com pretty much IS a cult, but being listed with names like Jim Jones, Heaven's Gate, etc is ridiculous.
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post 1590857621 11-02-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
No it's not. Your point is entirely based on the statement that there's no attack on masculinity. If you're not aware of the phrase "toxic masculinity" then you are unaware of the mindset of those attacking masculinity. Where do you think the gillette fiasco came from? Do you think the feminist CEO manifested that out of thin air just to antagonize her customers?
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post 1590857631 11-02-2019, 10:23 AM
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So...because Misc hasn't went full hard left like most of the mainstream media it's now a cult. Because it isn't like Vox isn't biased as ****. Waaaay more cult like behavior in the R/P then here (on both sides).
post 1590858021 11-02-2019, 10:31 AM
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That's manipulation 101. All of the websites listed don't resonate with the term "cult." Words matter. These organizations purposely use words like this to muddy the lines of reality and their perception. They want to silence opposing views so they misuse words to represent others. There are zero relations of bodybuilding.com and the term cult. Zero. Look up the definition of cult. You can't tinker with words definitions to make a connection to your point of view.

OP I'm sorry, but most people on the "right-leaning" side of politics see Vox as an absolute contributor to the degradation of society, not because of their politics, but because of how they manipulate and lie. They are propaganda in its purest definition. They also promote social degeneracy. This isn't opinion, it is fact. Whether your politics are "right" or "left," doesn't decide the rationale behind their intentions. Do they have some entertaining videos that I have watched? Yes. Would I ever watch them again? No, because I know what they are.

I typed in Vox in YouTube. These are some of the title results:
-"Impeachment is Broken. Impeach Trump, Anyway."
-"How Trump Makes Extreme Things Look Normal."
-"Authoritarianism: The Political Science That Explains Trump."
-The Phone Call That Could Get Trump Impeached."
-The Trump-Fox & Friends feedback loop explained.
-Bernie Sanders: The Vox Conversation
-Why Obvious Lies Make Great Propaganda (Picture and description talking about Putin and Trump.)
-Admit it. Republicans have broken politics
-The Problem with sex testing in sports
-The man who rigged Americas election maps

I can go on and on. Those titles are simply manipulation and propaganda. LIKE ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA. At this point it is laughable.

How you can watch Vox knowing what they are is beyond me.
post 1590858221 11-02-2019, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
The lonely guy in UK who put his arm around a chick twice? She got upset and he got put on a sex offenders register for 5 years.
WTF are you on about? First of all, this "lonely guy" needs to keep is fukin hands to himself. His loneliness is not a pass to put his hands on a person. You put your hands on anyone without their permission it's illegal and should be.

Also, these hypothetical scenarios you describe aren't really happening. In general, people who are on the sex offender list are the scum of the earth. Maybe 1/100 are some weird exception - some dude peeing in a bush near a school. But the other 99/100 are animals and should be put in a cage.

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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
Waaaay more cult like behavior in the R/P then here (on both sides).
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Originally Posted By pogue
I read the entirety of your post and replied back making my points. You simply come back at me calling me stupid. Can you not reply back with a point toanyof my replies or questions I asked you?
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I dont need to reply back to your post because your initial anger was and I quote in my CP;Typical MRA/Anti-SJW BS


This one little insult and your salty neg gives me all the answers I need. You are a grown man who doesn't like alternative facts because they're not mainstream and like a person with blinkers on you react with anger/frustration.

But I must thank you however, you made me realise this website is on a hate watch list by the people making the new rules on the internet. VOX is controlled media and gets its funds and marching orders from very powerful entities. Think of it as a warning signal.

I am not going to post any further or even visit this website any longer as I dont wish to have the British police visit me some time in the future and I am 100% serious, no BS. I wont even go into how the r/p section witha dozen or so postsers of this website plus TWO Mods are compromised by outside entities pushing narratives like they do on Reddit.

That stupid twat of a MOD redraider even says in her little estrogen filled neg the case I quoted about that guy getting 5 years on the sex offender register is all BS. LMAO.

You MODs react with anger first, try and discuss it after. I'm fed up of it and wont be part of your hate list website any longer.





TL;Dr: Bad times coming boyos.
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[QUOTE=pogue post_id=1590855971]So, I got a reply back from one of the producers of the Vox episode on cults. I attempted to correct him, but we'll see if he further replies.[b]DO NOT HARASS THIS PERSON!!![/b]. I will be watching his mentions on Twitter and if I see harassment towards him I will trace it back to the individual(s) here who perpetuated it and you will be banned.

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The replies ER made here I remember as being in the very low number account. I remember him posting something about his penis size and a few other miscellaneous things, but I don't recall him posting his "day of vengeance" video here prior to the massacre. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
Reviewbrah frequented the misc more than Rodgers(one thread in all likelihood) and I wouldn't call him a miscer. They used the platform to get noticed because it got a significant amount of traffic, like other platforms they used.
The journalist seems to be into sensationalism, brah, I wouldn't waste your time, but good on you for defending our honor.
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
I dont need to reply back to your post because your initial anger was and I quote in my CP;Typical MRA/Anti-SJW BS


This one little insult and your salty neg gives me all the answers I need. You are a grown man who doesn't like alternative facts because they're not mainstream and like a person with blinkers on you react with anger/frustration.

But I must thank you however, you made me realise this website is on a hate watch list by the people making the new rules on the internet. VOX is controlled media and gets its funds and marching orders from very powerful entities. Think of it as a warning signal.

I am not going to post any further or even visit this website any longer as I dont wish to have the British police visit me some time in the future and I am 100% serious, no BS. I wont even go into how the r/p section witha dozen or so postsers of this website plus TWO Mods are compromised by outside entities pushing narratives like they do on Reddit.

That stupid twat of a MOD redraider even says in her little estrogen filled neg the case I quoted about that guy getting 5 years on the sex offender register is all BS. LMAO.

You MODs react with anger first, try and discuss it after. I'm fed up of it and wont be part of your hate list website any longer.





TL;Dr: Bad times coming boyos.
Nooooooo


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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson
I dont need to reply back to your post because your initial anger was and I quote in my CP;Typical MRA/Anti-SJW BS


This one little insult and your salty neg gives me all the answers I need. You are a grown man who doesn't like alternative facts because they're not mainstream and like a person with blinkers on you react with anger/frustration.

But I must thank you however, you made me realise this website is on a hate watch list by the people making the new rules on the internet. VOX is controlled media and gets its funds and marching orders from very powerful entities. Think of it as a warning signal.

I am not going to post any further or even visit this website any longer as I dont wish to have the British police visit me some time in the future and I am 100% serious, no BS. I wont even go into how the r/p section witha dozen or so postsers of this website plus TWO Mods are compromised by outside entities pushing narratives like they do on Reddit.

That stupid twat of a MOD redraider even says in her little estrogen filled neg the case I quoted about that guy getting 5 years on the sex offender register is all BS. LMAO.

You MODs react with anger first, try and discuss it after. I'm fed up of it and wont be part of your hate list website any longer.





TL;Dr: Bad times coming boyos.
You sound mad. Real mad.
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Your post wasn't true, though. The British guy you're referring to isn't a sex offender, he's never been sentenced, so you're either uninformed or lying. Your meltdown is hilarious though. Seems like you're the mad one, and it's by your own doing. Try not being dumb as fuk.
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Originally Posted By Uhyeahokay
Misc is where we come to get away from the eat, sleep, work, repeat cult that is modern society these days.
Gaming for guys has replaced forums and is much more brutal and funny. It's just harder to screenshot or keep track of online game chats so they trot out these old dinosaur platforms.

We are just becoming too regulated as humans. Occasionally someone will shout out Spartacus.
Good, neutral comment. Naturally, it was ignored in favor of the comments pointing out that vox is cancer.

It seems like the point of this thread was to pick a fight.
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Originally Posted By hahaimtall
Cult, no. Hive mind mentality, absolutely.
yeah this
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Originally Posted By SippyCups
wat
Originally Posted By pogue
I would delete this post, but it's so dumb I feel like I have to reply against it.



You are under the misguided impression that "masculinity" is under threat. This is a common ad hominem attack against the the me too movement/gamergate and all the other current social and political movement that are addressing the therealissue of sexual harassment in the workplace, the glass ceiling, and other real problems that women face in society.



This sounds like typical incel banter insanity. I agree with the men's right movement on a number of issues, but they've been taken over by misogynist nuts who have no ideological philosophy other than attempting to destroy feminism and what they see as they see themselves losing the power they once had in the world to the "secret feminist agenda".


That's what I was referring to.
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I don't have time to reply to all the posts here, but I'll try to get to a couple and come back to the rest later.

I just want to say to EVERYONE, even those I disagree with, that I appreciate (most) of your discussion remaining civil. I want this to be adiscussionnot an argument or an attempt to smear people for thinking differently than I do.

I hope everyone canTHING CRITICALLYand avoid cognitive biases and logical fallacies.




I'm also going to post the text from Carl Sagan's "Baloney Detection Kit" from his bookThe Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Darkwhich isrequiredreading, IMO.
  • Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
  • Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
  • Arguments from authority carry little weight — “authorities” have made mistakes in the past. They will do so again in the future. Perhaps a better way to say it is that in science there are no authorities; at most, there are experts.
  • Spin more than one hypothesis. If there’s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives. What survives, the hypothesis that resists disproof in this Darwinian selection among “multiple working hypotheses,” has a much better chance of being the right answer than if you had simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
  • Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it’s yours. It’s only a way station in the pursuit of knowledge. Ask yourself why you like the idea. Compare it fairly with the alternatives. See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don’t, others will.
  • Quantify. If whatever it is you’re explaining has some measure, some numerical quantity attached to it, you’ll be much better able to discriminate among competing hypotheses. What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Of course there are truths to be sought in the many qualitative issues we are obliged to confront, but finding them is more challenging.
  • If there’s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) — not just most of them.
  • Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.
  • Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle — an electron, say — in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.
  • Source:https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/0...it-carl-sagan/
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