You're basically saying that online dating sucks for men and cold approaching is the way to go.

Well I'm 36 and reasonably good looking and let me tell you... you have no idea how many women I've cold approached (street, park, shop, no bars/clubs) in my life before I discovered online dating (namely Badoo then Tinder). I don't even know. Hundreds. At least 250-300. And believe me a lot of them were sending seemingly clear IOIs before I approached them. I was in my late 20s/early 30s at the time.

The results?

A chit ton of rejections, countless unproductive dates, ghosting, being stood up, etc
vs
the bangs: a 17-year-old 8/10 (15 is legal here), 25-year-old 7.5/10, 27-year-old 8/10, 22-year-old 8/10, a 23-year-old 7/10, a 25-year-old 7/10 and my present GF. I think that's it. Yeah the quality of the sloots was pretty high but goddamn it was so much effort. The game just wasn't worth the candle if you're a sociopathic coomer only looking to coom.

Then I discovered Tinder three years ago and the sloots just started pouring in, messaging first, coming straight to my place (meaning I pick them up at the nearby tram stop and we head over to my pad).

I had this 21-year-old at my place giving her the facialabuse treatment literally a few days after I first installed Tinder:

imgur.c0m/a/43b9xxI ("com" for "c0m")

And many others that I have saved in my folders for when I'm old and want to reminisce about the "glory days".

You simply don't get that kind of convenience and conversion rate with cold approaching. Or at least I didn't and I'm the dude in my avi.

Granted now the Tinder game is harder even if you look good but as I've already shown in this thread with screenshots the sloots are still pouring in, albeit they're 30+. But you know what if it took that much goddamn effort to bang a handful of young girls by cold approaching back when I was significantly younger and a lot of sloots still didn't have smartphones then I don't see the results being any better now that I'm pushing 40 and sloots are connected 24/7 to the crack ******* that is social media.

With all of that said, my real "glory days" will always be back when I was a whoremonger. Nothing beats the sheer practicality, pleasure and adrenaline of P4P if you're confident, not too old, look good and the talent is young, attractive and submissive (or you can be as old and ugly as you want if you're a millionaire and you'll still get your hairy smelly ass diligently tongue punched by beautiful young sloots). Unfortunately social media has destroyed P4P for the plebs in this country as well. JFL.

You have intimacy problems, and you're trying to fix them with hypersexuality. You're going to die a very lonely, depressed old man.

2020 gona be a hell of a ride

I registered to say kudos to OP for the thoughts and post. Queestion though

i.imgur.c0m/0kyH1bc.jpg (replace "c0m" with "com")


she looks better than any of the girls you posted. YOU sure you don't just tell her and us that to keep her value low enough that you run ****? Which makes sense.

I've had a chic with a similar bodie, fuking nice ya know, and I've devalued her in the past to break the same insecurity. I can objecitvely say with the exception of Maybe Jennifer or Jessica's fat ass 32 your GF/Wife looks much better. Unless there's something really wrong with the face. Plus she sucks and ****s for 5 years,

and I'm guessing, she... CAN:T date and **** on the side like you can? Has she asked you if you **** these girls? Or use a condom? How do you even respond?
I'm very curious.


Also wow lol no kids and no meeting parents from the get go and she said fine?? And... what? you'll change your mind at some point?
She stayed just for the dick? Just for your dick?


How do you? I mean i've seen girls so void and empty without their obsession (looks like you make it you), but i'm just confirming, you can tell her you're slagging these girls every week and you also tell her she can't and she's all yours.


Also ya, I totes think you understand she's hoot ****. but you can't let her know that (up to you). IMO she does look thinner nicer, smoother, better ass, younger, and the committmen thing of years is sexy (you just explained how wild and ****ed up monogamy is almost impossible), so ya.

But at the same time I don't want you to get walked all over. And ya, that's a real mind****. Do answer bro. thanks for the thoughts. If I was 6'1, i'd work out a bunch. But i'm 5'8 so, I'm not sure what I'll do. But I do at least know and see there's hella room for growth for a man. And ya, men are jumping to pluto and back for pussy. So, I'll never quit improving. If I can make my life a bit easier.

I'd be a lot more depressed if I spent my entire life masturbating and/or banging one or two broads, believe you me, buddeh.
Her body is great especially from the hips to the feet and I tell her that all the time. Exactly my type. Great smooth skin too. I love short stocky girls with narrow hips, big asses, thick calves and sexy small feet. That and her agreeable character are the only reasons I'm still with her.

But face-wise she's average. Looks kinda goofy. I also strongly prefer natural brunettes with big dark meaty kunts. Maybe some guys would rate her a 7 but I don't. Influenced by the PSL community I've become very conservative with my ratings.No, she can't meet with anyone of course. Three years ago she was so addicted to the sex and squirting (she hasn't squirted ever since she moved in with me and saw how I spend my free time JFL) that she put up with a semi-open relationship and me fooking other sloots.

Now the agreement is that I can have two dates a month at my/our place but I promised her that there would be nothing more than kissing. I had to give her some plausible deniability so that she can preserve some self-dignity. Either way like I already wrote recently I'm not really taking advantage of the deal because I'm simply too lazy and my libido isn't that high this time of the year. Maybe if something short and stocky came along but all the candidates right now are tall and/or thin. She drains my balls a few times a week, I masturbate here and there and that seems to be enough to keep me behaving unless some nice young sugar baby sloot answers one of my ads.I approached her when she was relatively young (23), vulnerable (on the rebound) and overweight (140lbs at 5'4.5). She saw how women were flirting with me when I was with her and that turned her on even more. I was experiencing a dryspell so she became my fook buddy and she was trying so hard to please me and be with me that eventually she succeeded. And here we are five years later going strong.

In addition to all the squirting orgasms she experienced with me, I also did one really nasty thing to her (much nastier than rimming and A2M just to give you an idea) to punish her for a transgression and she said that I took her soul at that point.

I'm not afraid of losing her. I'd be delighted if she met a good hardworking family-oriented man. I'm just a sociopathic coomer going nowhere in life. As long as I get to sniff some puss, ass and feet and coom from time to time, I'm content. Maybe one day she'll feel that maternity instinct kick in strongly, but she's been on birth control non-stop for five years so who knows what kind of side effects that could have on a woman's fertility and psyche.Being 5'8 sucks but never stop looksmaxxing and being the best version of you. The better you look externally, the stronger you become internally, the more options you have, the more you don't give a fook.

I have a strong abundance mentality and DGAF attitude and she feels that. It also helps that I'm a sociopath who prefers being alone. And she feels that too. I don't need a woman's company or commitment. At all. I just want to coom and get on with my other interests.

repped!

They won't. I know a 6'4 TurboChad who can't get hot girls and even low quality women (older, not the hottest younger ones) just FWB him because he's getting fired from jobs and lives with parents at age 26 with no degree. Girls from ages 20-50 with various sizes and ethnicities drop him as a bf because they have to pay for everything when they go out.

Congrats on self-awareness. I've read that while sociopaths don't have strong emotional bonds they usually have relationships based on loyalty and respect. Myth or just does not apply with your live in? Have you straight up identified as a path to her?

i always thought of this

women ahve heaps of options but don't they get sick of being pumped and dumped nad just hooking up all the time etc?

do people actually like doing this deep down?

Women living life in cruise control

why would they dislike her

its not really cold approaching if she looks at you back with a smile. that is a ****ing invitation. u'd be stupid to not act on it and from there on its pretty much all in ur hands. im not cold approaching in the classic kind of way, i think its a waste of time.

see its all cool if tinder works for you, but ur talking in absolutes. its ONE way to go, not THE only way. for me personally tinder sucked ass and that was during my supposedly "prime" years. started getting out there actively approaching and thats when the results came in. sure it sucked at first, but i can assure anyone that attraction in the real world is less about having looks, money, career, or stupid luxury hotel pics on insta and more about being masculine. as i said women simply dont see if ur a rich or poor dude, the only indicator they have to determine if ur fit for reproduction is the way you carry urself. if u play ur cards right she HAS to assume that ur a valuable male. theres simply no other choice. attaraction is not a choice, its a feeling u as a man can create inside a woman. but very few men will ever be able to do this in their life, let alone understand this concept.

ive had so many women tell me how theyve been completely turned off by their "chad" dates on tinder, because those guys acted like ****ing simps. it works the other way too. u can have all the looks in the world, if ur not masculine and act like a bitch, a feminine woman will reject u regardless in the end.

so again, cool that it works for you im really happy. but to say that u HAVE to have certain stuff in order to attract a female is simply not true. most guys already have all they need but theyll stay losers & bitches al their lifes, chasing after external factors like money that wont change a god damned thing about their dating life.

does she have nice feet at least

Repped for video commentary lols , and not frauding like the majority of the Misc

No, studies show that this messes with their brain and can cause mental illnesses.

Many hope they can lock down Chad, but Chad pumps and dumps them.

No idea what a coomer is but op seems pretty genuine and knows what he wants so fair play to him

Cuck cuck cuck, what do we have here

This is depressing. There must still be some women out there who don't use online dating and find the whole system repulsive though, right? Maybe there's still hope for us average dudes.

ayyyyyy lol

do brunettes have darker ****s or something?

lol so 3 years IN she found out you were fookiing other sluts? You'd deny it before? I'm confused. (I am so aware you can mentally be 100 or close to honest with a chic and jedi mind trick even a "you've been cheating for 3 years?" argument). So I'm just curious why the fuk she was just like "*sigh* okay. keep doing it") after 3 years of thinking you were faithful.

Also, what stopped the squirts? Her seeing you spend your free time on Tinder looking at other girls? Or her seeing you spend your free time being around the house, internet, playing video games, being normal? (you're gonna say both but please go into detail lol).

Let's see, I'll just keep asking don't get offended.
she's not allowed to meet anyone. >> you mean like, you restrict her from going out and seeing guy-friends? Oooh, bit extreme. I get it, if you want it, and that's the lair she lives in. I'd be a little worried if that's the case, that she isn't for sure- doing some side-dicking. She'll go nuts waiting around he house legs crossed over her nice back waiting at home on the ipad waiting to suck your dick, bruu. I gotta imagine if I was her, I would take a long work shift and go suck some other dick too.


Being 5'8 sucks ya sure but it is what it is. It's all relative anyways. IMO your GF looks better (can't see the face), and the bait you get on TINDER are actually way less attractive than you, but that's typically how things work. Also, i'm 5'8 but my last chic was 5'11 and same body as your girl, and I'm guessing a better face. Natural brunnete too, but died blonde like I love. I don't know if her meets were darker or thicker, Guess I'll have to appreciate that at another time. But ya, I don't stop maximiizing, and I hope to strike gold a few more times before I settle down with an attractive friend or something. You can keep cooming, but that's a lonely life,
and the benefits of getting married at some point. Also, if my last chic was an indicator, hot yes, wifey material for decades? No. The Biii will run anxiety and want to break up on a tuesday. It's too much maintenance lol.


Sounds like she tried real hard to please you from the beginning. She mentally has seen you as the better. I'm just seeing the final pic of her, and she looks great in that,
but if she started 140lbs and 5.45, I guess you primmed her. I'd be worried she aint squirtin no more, but as you said you kind of want her to move on. I wish ya luck and I hope you have an end game.

I'm trying to maxximize myself and see what else is possible at my height -- I ant getting taller and life's a blessing anyways ya. I've seen (lol heard of), people shorter get their way, so life works here too. I would personally scoff at a girl who's 5.45 and 140lbs, so It's not like I gotta really lower standards either. Sometimes (I've yet) to take myself seriously around an 8 or 9 or 10 tho (i'm using your standards). I don't think i wanna put up with a model. or can.. Your chics body type with a B or higher face is MORE than a good lay and **** and LTR. and goals. If I can actually keep going with where I left off, I'd be pleased with myself.

kudos mate. You think some of the tinder girls you posted look better than your chic? Or have a better body type (for you)?

I would love and the world would love more sexy leggs spread pics of your girl. She's fine bro. Be happy she stuck with ya for so long. I hope she lost the weight early on your relationship. Were you the guy that got her in the gym and primed her? That's crazy.

So much work us men put in. I'd think about taking some socializing classes and finding a real mate tho man.. you can't keep slagging for life. There's gotta be a crazy person in female form that would like being in your company. Y'all can rent the same house. And slag other people. But you can at least die together. that's marriage.

I'm not reading this gay thread, but you betas need to take your game to Eastern Europe.

water is wet and op is a cuck. big news.

the hell did you do?

contact my Prime Minister i would love to know more

bump

There seems to be a correlation.First 6 months she was in my fook buddeh zone, then we became exclusive and I was faithful for a year and half, then I discovered tinder and gave her an ultimatum "let me bang bro or it's over" and started banging other sloots for several months, then I was faithful again for a year or so, then I issued another tinder ultimatum and here we are.Definitely the latter except replace playing video games with sleeping all day and dropping black pills on the internet all night.

I'd say all the tinder stuff actually helped raise my value in her eyes and has been giving her tingles. Especially after she has experienced the sheer power of being a female on tinder. Now she has a new found appreciation for all those first messages I get from women who are ready to drink some mulled wine with me.

Either way she still produces a lot of pussy cream cheese while we fook so that's a good enough indicator of attraction for me. Not as good as squirting O's, but still good. Once she stops creaming up I'll know that it's time to introduce some changes to our life.Meh... I'm not worried. I have access to her phone, ********, email accounts, etc. Of course if she really wants to cuck me then she will.

But then there are three possibilities:
1. She'll cuck me and begin the process of monkeybranching and eventually leave me.
2. She'll cuck me once or a few times but stay with me and I don't find out so it's like it never happened in my world.
3. I find out and then it's over.

That's it. What else can a man do?

I had a few hot girlfriends in the past. Never again. I'm simply not a typical blue-pilled western simp that's ready to put up with all forms of servitude, inconvenience, abuse and humiliation just so he can belong to a pretty domina.

I have much more of an ancient Athenian/Roman patriarchal attitude and too much self-dignity to simp out. Aside from my woman and my mother, these days I only talk to women if they pay me (my clients) or if I'm having sex with them (within the next two hours tops). Think of that famous Mike Tyson interview back when Tyson still ate meat and had balls. JFL @ co-educational social events (aside from the odd family event) and socializing with women you're not fooking. What a fooking nightmare. And the men taking part in such events are all blue-pilled simps, so it's a double dose of toxic soy and femininity.

I strongly believe that a woman should be 100% subservient to her man and 100% invisible outside the home, or at the very goddamn least not make herself a sex object with tits and ass on display 24/7. My girl doesn't have social media aside from ******** where she doesn't have any provocative pics at all (I monitor the situation). And if I asked her to start dressing Amish tomorrow or wearing a hijab, she would. She already can't wear anything shorter than one inch above the knee. And taking into consideration that her face is average and her booty/legs are her strong point, that's already a huge sacrifice if we're going by western standards where women are obsessed with making themselves sex objects in public in order to powertrip and constantly boost their enormous toxic egos by getting unlimited attention from psychologically castrated western simps.

Good luck getting that kind of commitment, obedience and sacrifice from a 7.5+/10 unless you belong to a strictly orthodox religious community.
I'm too black pilled to get married and start a family. I'd disown my daughter at birth (sloots just can't lose in this modern life so it's not like they need a father anyway) and there's a 99% chance my son would grow up to be a miserable sub-8 coomer/subservient simp pleb.
She lost 22 pounds in the first four months of my meeting her. But she didn't look good. She looked gaunt in the face and too skinny up top (she's bottom heavy). But her drive and dedication to lose the weight for me really made a positive impression.

After that we started training together and I even got her to experience some of dat dere lifetime natty life. Cotdamn the results were great but there were too many side effects unfortunately.

She weighs about 130 now but it's a fit and thick 130 with not much around the waist (as you can see in the pic I shared). I'd actually love for her to weigh 140 again under the condition that it all went to her legs & ass. Strong HTC crew.

Damn this is depressing.

Many of these handsome dudes are double and triple messaging two or even three days later. And they're still being gentlemen in their words and can't even pick up enough courage to unmatch the rude, ungrateful, average 29-year-old sloot who won't take 10 seconds out of her day to reply to them.

The loneliness and desperation is real. I'm starting to feel sorry for these dudes. Handsome dudes being so polite and patient with a basic 29-year-old. Just shows me that things are worse than I thought. You'd think guys like that would have a queue of 6's waiting to bang them. Guess again, looks like. 90/10 is the new 80/20 in 2020.

it's over for us avg brahs

It's pointless it's over

Such is life for less than high tier men

has OP game'd or been MAN in the US? Does he know if his situation in Poland is easier? He has a good pull on Tinder. And he has worked out hard enough to acheive such a thing. I mean, he is just luring 6s by his admission. More than earned. I like his take on hot chics. That's ****ing interesting. Ya, I think most any odd great looking women are not worth the hell. I am happy to just meet the odd individual at this point. for whatever random ass reason that enjoys... (don't laugh) MY personality.