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post 1597481251 02-10-2020, 10:32 AM
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Yeah whatever type of echo chamber you frequently patronize you will become a Cel of that.

Now you are Brah-Cel

In the end is any of it different anyway? Lol
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Originally Posted By x420SwagScopex
It’s definitely a big factor, although admittedly some guys are fukked and destined to be incels due to factors outside of their control, lots of other dudes are incels only because of their mindset. I was one of them for a few years and ironically the misc pulled me out of it. There’s a lot of incel/LDAR people here but there’s also a lot of people who encourage self improvement and basically not being a pussy.

I had spent a lot of time on 4chan and subreddits like r/MGtoW and had developed an image of myself in my head as a guy who’s too socially awkward for a girl to ever like me. If I had stayed in those echo chambers I’d still be a virgin and rotting away playing video games 12 hours a day. I’m super grateful for the dudes here who manage to stay positive and not encourage rotting.
I wish there was a way to filter it to only see those people. It's still a net positive
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post 1597482341 02-10-2020, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Interesting position and I definitely see the merit in it. Definitely can't overlook how big parenting plays a role in this. I think low self esteem in general stems from parenting issues, and there's no such thing as an incel with high self esteem.
parenting and societal influences a definitely a big factor in probably all issues facing the younger gens...

However i think we’re making too many excuses for them. Everyone throughout history all over the world has faced ridiculously difficult upbringings but they didnt bitch about external factors like people these days do.

Easy solution to all of this incel bull****: grow a pair of nuts.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls
I wish there was a way to filter it to only see those people. It's still a net positive
You can actually add the incels and rotters to your ignore list and not see them anymore
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
parenting and societal influences a definitely a big factor in probably all issues facing the younger gens...

However i think we’re making too many excuses for them. Everyone throughout history all over the world has faced ridiculously difficult upbringings but they didnt bitch about external factors like people these days do.

Easy solution to all of this incel bull****: grow a pair of nuts.
True, but they didn't have internet/social media/dating apps and people's social interactions consisted of actual human contact, and they couldn't/didn't band together online to perpetually bring/keep down each other.


The internet gave every village idiot a megaphone/camera with world-wide coverage.


So imo the roots of the problems and the problems remained the same, but the technology turned them up to eleven.
post 1597484181 02-10-2020, 11:16 AM
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Getting laid happens when you socialize with other people, face to face. 90% of so-called incels don't socialize with others, except online, and so they don't get laid.

Then they read a bunch of BS on the internet and think there's something wrong with them.
post 1597484201 02-10-2020, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I think you need to stay out of this thread, troll.
Yeah, only 40 year olds with no wife and kids who have the audacity to make fun of "incels" are allowed here.
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post 1597484271 02-10-2020, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Slurgie
Getting laid happens when you socialize with other people, face to face. 90% of so-called incels don't socialize with others, except online, and so they don't get laid.

Then they read a bunch of BS on the internet and think there's something wrong with them.
Do you think its easy to go up to random people and socialize with them. For many incels, women won't talk to them.
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post 1597484401 02-10-2020, 11:19 AM
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Wouldn't a person want to be in denial about their deficiencies and think of themselves a bit better that what they actually are, a little prettier and bit smarter than reality just to cope. Why would anyone want to dwell on that and find a group like that where everyone seems pathetic? Wouldn't you be like, no I'm not gonna be like that.

It seems that those people already are depressed in the first place and not that them being less attractive made them depressed.

But then I'm not sure about the autistic people or people who can't be sociable. If a person always makes others uncomfortable and nobody wants to be around you, it would be tough because you'd always have to try to adjust your behavior what you'd think would be acceptable.
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Originally Posted By Cass40
But then I'm not sure about the autistic people or people who can't be sociable. If a person always makes others uncomfortable and nobody wants to be around you, it would be tough because you'd always have to try to adjust your behavior what you'd think would be acceptable.
Childhood and adolescent obesity definitely has this effect as well. You internalize it. Hard to shake even after the weight comes off
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A lot of the points or advice above are just deluded or conjecture or wishful thinking. Incels are a real thing. The reason you see it so prominently is not forums or incels recognizing each other but because of social-media/dating apps.

dating apps have become more likely to influence dating choices, not necessarily Tinder but probably ********. You are much more likely to be aware of your friends' friends who are single. I bet a legit Chad on ******** has tons of messages from acquaintences.

So it made it much more likely for most men to be overlooked. Women can choose men like choosing a pair of shoes. Why wouldn't she choose the best option out of 50?
post 1597485681 02-10-2020, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By johnnydeep1
Do you think its easy to go up to random people and socialize with them. For many incels, women won't talk to them.
Incels don't have to approach random people, they have to meet new people. Big difference.





Problem w/ most incels is they aren't meeting any new people, pretty much ever, because they don't go outside enough.

Volunteering, meetups, hobbies, networking w/ coworkers, bars, clubs, traveling, joining clubs at school, etc.

Pretty much anything that puts you in contact with more people leads to more chances to get laid.

So-called incels stay behind a screen all day so their chances are 0%.
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Originally Posted By Slurgie
Incels don't have to approach random people, they have to meet new people. Big difference.

Problem w/ most incels is they aren't meeting any new people, pretty much ever, because they don't go outside enough.

Volunteering, meetups, hobbies, networking w/ coworkers, bars, clubs, traveling, joining clubs at school, etc.

Pretty much anything that puts you in contact with more people leads to more chances to get laid.

Incels stay behind a screen all day so their chances are 0%.
Internet abuse instead of living life.
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Same thing with depression support and all that jazz. Its like the blind leading the blind.

When i think about it, id say no. Because on some level it will provide some comfort for them which may be the support

However, from that point you need to take the extra step to get out of that rut. This is where im guessing most fail.
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Originally Posted By trapspot
Mega cope in this thread. Incels just don’t meet the SMV requirements of today. That’s it. Those requirements got a lot higher since dating apps became mainstream in the last year or so.

Also the dirty truth is that a lot of these incels you see are ethnic dudes in Western countries, which there are a lot of online (and even here srs). So their experiences may not apply to you
How in the world is it cope for someone to say they might have been incel if they looked back? But instead they pushed through and accomplished chit.

Pretty sure the "cope" is on the other end
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Originally Posted By Slurgie
Incels don't have to approach random people, they have to meet new people. Big difference.





Problem w/ most incels is they aren't meeting any new people, pretty much ever, because they don't go outside enough.

Volunteering, meetups, hobbies, networking w/ coworkers, bars, clubs, traveling, joining clubs at school, etc.

Pretty much anything that puts you in contact with more people leads to more chances to get laid.

So-called incels stay behind a screen all day so their chances are 0%.
I try to go to the bar but my friends never invite me, even when I ask them to invite me. A lot of folks are just not invited to places to hangout.

Also sometimes incels DO go out and talk to people but women are just not interested. Sometimes a guy talks to a girl and the girl just does not talk back. The conversation fizzes out and it gets to the point where the female just answers the male's questions without making a conversation. What can "incels" do about this?
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Originally Posted By Cass40
if a person always makes others uncomfortable and nobody wants to be around you, it would be tough because you'd always have to try to adjust your behavior what you'd think would be acceptable.
Si, it is tough. But if you kept doing it over and over, eventually youd figure out a way.

But most people fail because it is tough and youd have to go through some very uncomfortable times
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
Single mothers and beta fathers create them. Prove me wrong.
There are always multiple factors when it comes to something like this. But this is something I've noticed and pointed out before as well. A lot of incel miscers, as well as the ones who are serious about "sloots gonna sloot," seem to have been raised by slooty single mothers and/or beta fathers who got cucked repeatedly. Wincel is the most obvious example.
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Pretty much.....the more the socially awkward try to cope online, the less they interact with other humans on a face to face level. It literally makes them have less and less opportunities to grow socially and sexually.
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they dont want to change because that would mean leaving their comfort zone. They want a 10/10 girl to approach them in their basement and do all the work LMAO. incels are legit pathetic. at least they arent hurting anyone but themselves.
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Originally Posted By johnnydeep1
I try to go to the bar but my friends never invite me, even when I ask them to invite me. A lot of folks are just not invited to places to hangout.

Also sometimes incels DO go out and talk to people but women are just not interested. Sometimes a guy talks to a girl and the girl just does not talk back. The conversation fizzes out and it gets to the point where the female just answers the male's questions without making a conversation. What can "incels" do about this?
Go back to watching Joker, no need to try and merge this thread into the whiny bitch one as well.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Go back to watching Joker, no need to try and merge this thread into the whiny bitch one as well.
Again, what can incels do if people aren't willing to talk with them? Its easy to sit back and insult them, but hard to understand their situation.

Also, I assume that you are a 34 y/o unmarried guy without kids? Correct? A lot of you guys(30-40 year olds without wives and kids) pick on incels for some reason. I wonder why
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
You make a good point, MuzzlrPress. Damn glad I wasn't raised on the internet. Bunch of incel freaks assembling into disturbed tribes of shit. Being a woman-hating incel is probably the biggest loser mindset a young man can take. Worse even than being a socialist, which is pretty bad.
So what if someone can't get laid? Why does it effect you? Do you hate poor people ? Lonely people? People with poor cognitive function?
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Originally Posted By devin45k
Pretty much.....the more the socially awkward try to cope online, the less they interact with other humans on a face to face level. It literally makes them have less and less opportunities to grow socially and sexually.
I am going to ask one of my friends at work if he wants to workout with me this week. What if he says no? Is that MY fault?Am I a bad person for that? Some people have a hard time socializing with others, that does not make them BAD people you insensitive ****. I'm sure your life is not perfect either.
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Originally Posted By johnnydeep1
I try to go to the bar but my friends never invite me, even when I ask them to invite me. A lot of folks are just not invited to places to hangout.

Also sometimes incels DO go out and talk to people but women are just not interested. Sometimes a guy talks to a girl and the girl just does not talk back. The conversation fizzes out and it gets to the point where the female just answers the male's questions without making a conversation. What can "incels" do about this?
You need someone to invite you to go somewhere? Why?
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Originally Posted By RedRusty
You need someone to invite you to go somewhere? Why?
You think its easy going to a bar alone with social anxiety?
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In many cities it's just hard to get laid, especially if you are not well connected.

So for many 5/10 brahs the choices are either fuk 3/10s or not fuk at all.
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Originally Posted By RedRusty
You need someone to invite you to go somewhere? Why?
Being solo in places is generally unfavorable unless you are very skilled at it. Definitely a lot easier with a group
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