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As soon as corona is over, I am joining with my flatmates to screw over our landlord.
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- 3-guy flatshare, separate contracts
- one lost his job due to corona, me and the other are stable
- he got into the argument about not being able to pay with landlord
- me and the other stable bloke offered some solution
- landlord instead decided to increase our rents to semi-make up for third guy
- me and other stable guy are moving out due to this
- landlord also is renting the flat illegally because he needs a special license to rent out for more than 2 people who are unrelated, which would make him pay more tax
- once we are moving out we are calling the council, sending our tenancy agreements (proof) and he is getting busted with a hefty fine and owe us all of our rent money until now back
- unlimited ceiling for council fine + almost 25 000 USD worth of rent
- ****ing boomers
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Hear this bull**** out:
- Live in 3 bedroom flat. Me and a bloke share a bathroom, third room is a en-suite.
- The en-suite bloke's employer literally shutdown and is going under due to corona, me and the other bloke are in software engineering in big companies so we are working from home and stable.
- Flatmate and landlord obviously got into a disagreement.
- I understand both positions but flatmate gave him a very sensible solution as he can't pay for upcoming month - he suggest the landlord took the deposit to pay (deposit worth 1 month of rent) and once he is back to work he will give him for a new deposit.
- Landlord refuses and wants his money NOW. Me and the bloke want peace and prosperity so since our jobs are stable we suggested giving 1 month rent each in advance so that landlord has "more availability of funds NOW" and give both him and the bloke more time.
- Landlord brushed off the idea and came up with something that really enfuriated me - since me and the bloke who share are on per month contracts he decided to tell us that our rents are going up by 30% next month due to the en-suite guy not being able to pay.
- Me and the bloke are moving to his family's house in a city 100 km from London as we are working from home. En-suite guy is going to the police as there is an emergency eviction law in place for him.
- Here is the juicy part. All this time our landlord is renting the flat to 3 unrelated people. This require a Housing Multiple Occupants licence in the UK, which he doesn't have as he doesn't want to pay for it and the subsequent extra council tax.
- We all knew this but we didn't give a ****. But now him being a tough guy he deserves this. Literally all 3 separate tenancy agreements are built on illegal dodging of HMO licence.
- We all emailed him at once separately that for council enquiry purposes we want a copy of the HMO licence for the property. 2 min later he called the en-suite guy apologising and asking how we can settle this.
- We are not letting go because we also found out that apart from a hefty fine he owes us all of our rent back. So all 3 of us get our past 6 months rent back.
We have to teach the FFB* a lesson.
* Focking Fat Boomer
- 3-guy flatshare, separate contracts
- one lost his job due to corona, me and the other are stable
- he got into the argument about not being able to pay with landlord
- me and the other stable bloke offered some solution
- landlord instead decided to increase our rents to semi-make up for third guy
- me and other stable guy are moving out due to this
- landlord also is renting the flat illegally because he needs a special license to rent out for more than 2 people who are unrelated, which would make him pay more tax
- once we are moving out we are calling the council, sending our tenancy agreements (proof) and he is getting busted with a hefty fine and owe us all of our rent money until now back
- unlimited ceiling for council fine + almost 25 000 USD worth of rent
- ****ing boomers
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Hear this bull**** out:
- Live in 3 bedroom flat. Me and a bloke share a bathroom, third room is a en-suite.
- The en-suite bloke's employer literally shutdown and is going under due to corona, me and the other bloke are in software engineering in big companies so we are working from home and stable.
- Flatmate and landlord obviously got into a disagreement.
- I understand both positions but flatmate gave him a very sensible solution as he can't pay for upcoming month - he suggest the landlord took the deposit to pay (deposit worth 1 month of rent) and once he is back to work he will give him for a new deposit.
- Landlord refuses and wants his money NOW. Me and the bloke want peace and prosperity so since our jobs are stable we suggested giving 1 month rent each in advance so that landlord has "more availability of funds NOW" and give both him and the bloke more time.
- Landlord brushed off the idea and came up with something that really enfuriated me - since me and the bloke who share are on per month contracts he decided to tell us that our rents are going up by 30% next month due to the en-suite guy not being able to pay.
- Me and the bloke are moving to his family's house in a city 100 km from London as we are working from home. En-suite guy is going to the police as there is an emergency eviction law in place for him.
- Here is the juicy part. All this time our landlord is renting the flat to 3 unrelated people. This require a Housing Multiple Occupants licence in the UK, which he doesn't have as he doesn't want to pay for it and the subsequent extra council tax.
- We all knew this but we didn't give a ****. But now him being a tough guy he deserves this. Literally all 3 separate tenancy agreements are built on illegal dodging of HMO licence.
- We all emailed him at once separately that for council enquiry purposes we want a copy of the HMO licence for the property. 2 min later he called the en-suite guy apologising and asking how we can settle this.
- We are not letting go because we also found out that apart from a hefty fine he owes us all of our rent back. So all 3 of us get our past 6 months rent back.
We have to teach the FFB* a lesson.
* Focking Fat Boomer
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04-15-2020, 08:44 AM
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Does your landlord have one I'd those thick, whiney British accents?
I don't bloody care you lost yo job mate. 50 quid is 50 quid, and I want it nowww
I don't bloody care you lost yo job mate. 50 quid is 50 quid, and I want it nowww
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04-15-2020, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By azzspankr⏩
- 3-guy flatshareneed better cliffs
- one lost his job due to corona, me and the other are stable
- he got into the argument about not being able to pay with landlord
- me and the other stable bloke offered some solution
- landlord instead decided to increase our rents to semi-make up for third guy
- me and other stable guy are moving out due to this
- landlord also is renting the flat illegally because he needs a special license to rent out for more than 2 people who are unrelated, which would make him pay more tax
- once we are moving out we are calling the council, sending our tenancy agreements (proof) and he is getting busted with a hefty fine and owe us all of our rent money until now back
- ****ing boomers
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04-15-2020, 08:50 AM
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Read thread.
I'm not sure of laws there but I know in NA what the landlord is doing is illegal, tenant rights are something everyone should know where ever it is they live.
30% increase on rent because he "feels like it"? Nah it doesn't work that way, there's renting contracts for agreements.
As far as I know you can't be evicted right now for not paying rents, and rightfully so since so many are out of work.
Landlord's make nice profits(I'm one myself), don't let them bullchit you, they're not going under yet.
I'm not sure of laws there but I know in NA what the landlord is doing is illegal, tenant rights are something everyone should know where ever it is they live.
30% increase on rent because he "feels like it"? Nah it doesn't work that way, there's renting contracts for agreements.
As far as I know you can't be evicted right now for not paying rents, and rightfully so since so many are out of work.
Landlord's make nice profits(I'm one myself), don't let them bullchit you, they're not going under yet.
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04-15-2020, 08:51 AM
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find out if he miscs first
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04-15-2020, 08:54 AM
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04-15-2020, 08:54 AM
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Dude sounds alpha
Too bad he lives in Cuckistan where 3 wimpy pasty poor kids can bog up the courts with such chit
Hopefully he beats your ass as a parting gift
Too bad he lives in Cuckistan where 3 wimpy pasty poor kids can bog up the courts with such chit
Hopefully he beats your ass as a parting gift
I don’t want a large farva, I want a goddamn liter of cola
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04-15-2020, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By jasticus⏩
just wait if he has a mortgage on it, they will take the house away and his credit is ruinedNegged for being a rentcel at least the boomer owns assets
now back to milking cows you !
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04-15-2020, 09:00 AM
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You all are going to screw your landlord? Sounds erotic
04-15-2020, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Completely agree with you, but it is all about not being a dickhead in my head.The landlord is an ass and deserves to be reported.
However, what I've read is that all three of you were fine with him not having the proper licensing ( you admitted to all you knowing this beforehand ), most likely because you benefitted from having cheaper than normal rent ( otherwise why would you not bring it up before?)
Bringing it up now as "revenge", and not when you found out, makes your motive questionable for not bringing it up then.
Don't get me wrong, the landlord is a complete ass, but all three of you aren't much better either ( knowingly letting him skirt his responsibilities - most likely in exchange for better than market rent).
However, what I've read is that all three of you were fine with him not having the proper licensing ( you admitted to all you knowing this beforehand ), most likely because you benefitted from having cheaper than normal rent ( otherwise why would you not bring it up before?)
Bringing it up now as "revenge", and not when you found out, makes your motive questionable for not bringing it up then.
Don't get me wrong, the landlord is a complete ass, but all three of you aren't much better either ( knowingly letting him skirt his responsibilities - most likely in exchange for better than market rent).
letting him not pay extra tax + not making him get the licence = me not being a dickhead.
him not BOTHERING me and the other bloke with an unreasonable price surge = him not being a dickhead.
I hate dickheads.
As far as "not paying tax" trickling down to us with less rent - it doesn't affect us much. The main thing is the upfront purchase of said license (thousands for this big property), not the extra tax.
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04-15-2020, 09:03 AM
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U will not get back rent lol but then again uk of peace
In the states here he would be fined and have to pay for the license etc. and pay the back taxes. But he wouldnt have to pay u sht since u used the service of living there. That doesnt entitle you to all of your rent back. Thats fkin stupid
In the states here he would be fined and have to pay for the license etc. and pay the back taxes. But he wouldnt have to pay u sht since u used the service of living there. That doesnt entitle you to all of your rent back. Thats fkin stupid
04-15-2020, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
For being a meanie to opWhy would they take his house away?
Who’s such a loser he’s moving into someone else’s mommy’s home
I don’t want a large farva, I want a goddamn liter of cola
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04-15-2020, 09:07 AM
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good luck getting your rent back lol i wouldnt pay my tenants back. you signed a contract and agreed to pay the rents.
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I don't get it. You guys were splitting rent 3 ways, one guy drops because of layoff, and you expect to pay 2/3 the rent? Lol if this is the case...
Nevermind read a lil further, 3 sperate agreements? If this fuk was willing to bend rules to get around taxes, he should've helped you guys out and it wouldn't have cost chit. Stick it to him, fuk this ahole.
Nevermind read a lil further, 3 sperate agreements? If this fuk was willing to bend rules to get around taxes, he should've helped you guys out and it wouldn't have cost chit. Stick it to him, fuk this ahole.
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stick it to him for being a slum lord in this time of crisis. you id your part in trying to make things right ut his greedy ass refused. now let him feel the price of his foly
you should not have told him what you planned on doing though
you should not have told him what you planned on doing though
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04-15-2020, 09:17 AM
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He wants him to pay out so he can evict him asap if necessary because no one is getting a job in this climate.
Is there something wrong with that? Why didn't your room mate save?
Your landlord provided the service to you as agreed upon. He has saved and made sure everything is taken care of and has been diligent.
If your landlord could not fix a mold issue or roof leak because he lost his job would you still pay him? Law in most areas says you would not have to.
Is there something wrong with that? Why didn't your room mate save?
Your landlord provided the service to you as agreed upon. He has saved and made sure everything is taken care of and has been diligent.
If your landlord could not fix a mold issue or roof leak because he lost his job would you still pay him? Law in most areas says you would not have to.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
If he purchased it to LET, apart from a percentage shift due to risk, they also require no dodgy pyramid subletting + paying the gov everything they have to as this puts the bank in a facilitating position.Why would they take his house away?
If he has a mortgage they would take away the house and he would lose his down-payment.
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Is it me or is OP babbling incoherently?
1. If it is true that the landlord bought this as a residential property and not as a property to rentandhas a mortgage stemming from that - he would simply owe interest and perhaps pay a penalty. You do realize that some people buy to live, still have a mortgage, then rent out - and simply adjust the terms of the mortgage, right? LOL at 'seizing his house and losing his downpayment'.
2. If he needed the license etc. for the flat share and didn't get it, presumably your rents were lower accordingly. So your 'not being a dik' sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me. P.S - when you report him (to the local council? His bank?) he can implicate you as well. You think you're innocent? LOL.
3. What 'solution' did you offer on behalf of the third 'bloke', if you all have individual leases? Doesn't sound like that to me. Sounds like 3 people living in piss, one guy loses his job and stands around bubbling going to cry to mummy.
1. If it is true that the landlord bought this as a residential property and not as a property to rentandhas a mortgage stemming from that - he would simply owe interest and perhaps pay a penalty. You do realize that some people buy to live, still have a mortgage, then rent out - and simply adjust the terms of the mortgage, right? LOL at 'seizing his house and losing his downpayment'.
2. If he needed the license etc. for the flat share and didn't get it, presumably your rents were lower accordingly. So your 'not being a dik' sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me. P.S - when you report him (to the local council? His bank?) he can implicate you as well. You think you're innocent? LOL.
3. What 'solution' did you offer on behalf of the third 'bloke', if you all have individual leases? Doesn't sound like that to me. Sounds like 3 people living in piss, one guy loses his job and stands around bubbling going to cry to mummy.
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Just negotiate and settle out of court bro. He doesn't want to get taken to court and you want some rent back for your troubles. No need to clean him out like a sissy boy
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I’ve said it a million times on here but no one wants to believe me. A buy to let mortgage is more expensive partly because the mortgage company has no connection to the tenant ie don’t know who they are and aren’t necessarily going to look after the place.Who would take his house away?
If the LL didn’t get the multi person occupancy, it’s a certainty he hasn’t told the mortgage company either and they will demand he sells.
Obviously if it’s paid off he won’t have that problem. Will still be fined for not having the license
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
1. It’s mortgage fraud, pretty srs. There’s a degree of trust here that the owner has broken with the lender. If I was the bank I’d make him sell, not ‘work something out’Is it me or is OP babbling incoherently?
1. If it is true that the landlord bought this as a residential property and not as a property to rentandhas a mortgage stemming from that - he would simply owe interest and perhaps pay a penalty. You do realize that some people buy to live, still have a mortgage, then rent out - and simply adjust the terms of the mortgage, right? LOL at 'seizing his house and losing his downpayment'.
2. If he needed the license etc. for the flat share and didn't get it, presumably your rents were lower accordingly. So your 'not being a dik' sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me. P.S - when you report him (to the local council? His bank?) he can implicate you as well. You think you're innocent? LOL.
3. What 'solution' did you offer on behalf of the third 'bloke', if you all have individual leases? Doesn't sound like that to me. Sounds like 3 people living in piss, one guy loses his job and stands around bubbling going to cry to mummy.
1. If it is true that the landlord bought this as a residential property and not as a property to rentandhas a mortgage stemming from that - he would simply owe interest and perhaps pay a penalty. You do realize that some people buy to live, still have a mortgage, then rent out - and simply adjust the terms of the mortgage, right? LOL at 'seizing his house and losing his downpayment'.
2. If he needed the license etc. for the flat share and didn't get it, presumably your rents were lower accordingly. So your 'not being a dik' sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me. P.S - when you report him (to the local council? His bank?) he can implicate you as well. You think you're innocent? LOL.
3. What 'solution' did you offer on behalf of the third 'bloke', if you all have individual leases? Doesn't sound like that to me. Sounds like 3 people living in piss, one guy loses his job and stands around bubbling going to cry to mummy.
2. If their rents were lower you can’t show the tenants knew it was because he didn’t have a license. Irrelevant
3. Sounds like 3 separate agreements, 1 guy breaking his shouldn’t affect the other two at all
All that said, I’m pretty sure renters are protected from eviction right now during covid. Not looked don’t know
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Advice to op, check out the covid eviction rules (can’t believe you haven’t done this)
Find out if the property is mortgaged(don’t know how you do this sure it’s possible, Land Registry?)
If it is mortgaged, you are in a VERY strong position to do wtf you want for the reasons I explained.
Since you are near London, our of interest, is the LL by any chance Asian? Just wondering..
Find out if the property is mortgaged(don’t know how you do this sure it’s possible, Land Registry?)
If it is mortgaged, you are in a VERY strong position to do wtf you want for the reasons I explained.
Since you are near London, our of interest, is the LL by any chance Asian? Just wondering..
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