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post 1602841171 04-18-2020, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
Yeah, I'm sure. Just sounds like heaven when my cals are always at poverty level just to maintain.
I'm maintaining 213-214 right now with 4200 on training days and 3000 on my 2 off days lol
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I'm maintaining 213-214 right now with 4200 on training days and 3000 on my 2 off days lol
Well you don't have to rub it in!!!!! lol I maintain on about 1700. Maybe a little more. Maintaining is tough for me. I feel like cutting is easier because you have a goal.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Can you go into some more detail on how you increased calories from 3600 to 4900 in a few months? I'm really interested in this, as well as your carbs vs fat partitioning.

My metabolism has slowed down considerably and I heard that if you slowly increase calories (like 50 a week) your body will adapt to using it instead of storing it as fat.

I track my resting metabolic rate (how many calories I burn doing nothing all day) and my activity rate (how much I burn moving around, exercising, etc) and those numbers are 1650 calories and 550 calories, respectively (I've measured using heart rate on the apple watch for years).

I'd like to bump that up as high as possible after my cut is over, but I gain fat easily.

So yea I'm really curious how you bumped up 1300 calories in a few months with no real fat gain. Thanks

Just noticed I'm your age too, if it matters regarding metabolism
We started in November, I was at like 3650 cals and 195 lbs, basically doing a reasonable iifym style diet hitting 600 carbs and about 100 fat and gaining around 1 lb per week

My buddy Upped my cals to 3800 to start with about 60 fat and 275 protein I think. From there I dropped about 5 lbs and started gaining after a few weeks when we were in the the low 4000s range. There is some vodoo to that separating fats from carbs (see below breakdown)

There were no drugs or anything added during that time, just macro timing and slowly introducing calories 100-200 per week. Fats stayed around 60 g and protein upped to 315. Macro split as follows (we dropped the NTD macros towards the end to 2900, but most of the time off day cals were 3500-3700. We did weekly free meal as well

Training Day Macros: 4,900 Calories
315g Protein
775g Carbs
60g Fat

M1: 72g protein, 250g carbs
M2: 72g protein, 30g fat
Pre/Intra: 100g carbs
M3: 72g protein, 375g carbs
M4: 97g protein, 30g fat, 50g carbs



Non Training Day Macros:
2960
265g Protein
250g Carbs
100g Fat

M1: 60g protein, 250g carbs, 17g fat
M2: 60g protein, 17g fat
M3: 72g protein, 33g fat
M4: 72g protein, 33g fat
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post 1602844161 04-18-2020, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
I would continue to bulk to 6'3" and then cut to 6'1".
Lol I'm good.
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You gained all fat cuz

Your natty limit is about 180 max srs
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Can you go into some more detail on how you increased calories from 3600 to 4900 in a few months? I'm really interested in this, as well as your carbs vs fat partitioning.

My metabolism has slowed down considerably and I heard that if you slowly increase calories (like 50 a week) your body will adapt to using it instead of storing it as fat.

I track my resting metabolic rate (how many calories I burn doing nothing all day) and my activity rate (how much I burn moving around, exercising, etc) and those numbers are 1650 calories and 550 calories, respectively (I've measured using heart rate on the apple watch for years).

I'd like to bump that up as high as possible after my cut is over, but I gain fat easily.

So yea I'm really curious how you bumped up 1300 calories in a few months with no real fat gain. Thanks

Just noticed I'm your age too, if it matters regarding metabolism
insulin sensitivity brah

if your maintenance is actually only 2200 cals something isn't right unless you weigh 130lbs
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post 1602849471 04-18-2020, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I tried to follow the math in the beginning but the numbers don't add up..

In November you say 600g carbs and 100g fat, but that's 2400 calories of carbs and 900 calories of fats.. leaving 150 calories of protein?

So what were your macros to start out with, and what did you add with that 150 calories of weekly increase?
My bad macros are off you're right, I didn't do the math, was just guessing. Guess carbs were lower. Fats were ~80-100, protein 200-220 and the rest were carbs
post 1602849611 04-18-2020, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
You gained all fat cuz

Your natty limit is about 180 max srs
Oh just shut the fuk up already man. Come back to me and tell me that I didn't gain any muscle when I'm shredded in the mid 180s later this year vs 175 last year
post 1602849931 04-18-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
So basically you added 150 calories a week, and put all those into protein/carbs?

and as for fat/carb separation, that makes sense I guess
Yeah fats stayed put. No reason to have fats high in a surplus
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miscers itt forget that op actually trains legs legitimately
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post 1602850701 04-18-2020, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By analystherapist⏩
miscers itt forget that op actually trains legs legitimately
28" quads carry weight. Glad to see some upper body progress here. Pressing has been great
post 1602851401 04-18-2020, 03:07 PM
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Don’t you piss out protein after a certain amount? Just what I’ve read on here...
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post 1602851751 04-18-2020, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Droopdx⏩
Don’t you piss out protein after a certain amount? Just what I’ve read on here...
You don't just piss it out. Your body still uses it as energy. It's true that 300 g of protein likely won't build any more than 225g, but it's also likely the reason I was able to push cals as high as they were. I dunno all the science behind it but Jev is pretty good at pushing up cals with minimal fat gain and over feeding protein is part of it. Some of his clients smaller than me are eating 5000+ as natties..dead srs
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Do you think you would have had the same gains on your bulk if you had a home gym, with just an adjustable bench, two 100lb adjustable DBs, a pullup bar, and a dip station?
Me personally, not a chance with that load. Especially legs. I'm lucky to have enough bands, spin lock DB up to 60s, and a pair of fixed 80, 120 and 150 lb DB to get me through till the gyms are open. Legs likely won't see progress with that but definitely opportunity to progress upper body which I need more than legs
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You've given me a bit of motivation to come out ofbulk retirementand try putting on a bit more mass in my 30s again. Maybe! My current goal was just to shred out and maintain. Constant ups and downs for the past decade have taken their toll on me.
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
mirin, still natty?


The first 7 months were. Never lied about it in past
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Originally Posted By alejo2308⏩
Are you guys gonna tell me water is wet now?

OP, amazing job dead srs. Your arms, traps, and delts blew tf up.
lol'd @ water is wet quote and then being totally unaware that his traps and delts just look bigger because he's posing them differently.

OP you look great but you didn't really add any permanent muscle. The really tiny bit you added is just because your body isn't consuming it being at an extremely low bodyfat. That's completely normal and aren't gains because when you cut back down you'll lose it back again.

If not natty, disregard post.
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Originally Posted By Coal
OP you look great but you didn't really add any permanent muscle. The really tiny bit you added is just because your body isn't consuming it being at an extremely low bodyfat. That's completely normal and aren't gains because when you cut back down you'll lose it back again.

If not natty, disregard post.
That's pretty retarded logic to think you can't cut and retain muscle without drugs. I've been doing it pretty consistently for the past 7 years. It's not rocket science. I added about 5 lbs from 2018 to 2019 and I only bulk for about half the time and only put on 19 lbs. This year will easily be more

Here's the exact same pose; both with a pump... "no muscle gained" lol

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Originally Posted By jk202⏩


The first 7 months were. Never lied about it in past
Oooffff dang
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Originally Posted By Hammersia⏩
Oooffff dang
so now he is admitting he isn't after lying about it the whole time I am pretty sure I was calling him out in previous threads for being a liar.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
so now he is admitting he isn't after lying about it the whole time I am pretty sure I was calling him out in previous threads for being a liar.
Strong reading comprehension moron. Go back and read my reply again
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Strong reading comprehension moron. Go back and read my reply again
go buy an extra pack of razors to shave that bald dome of yours.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
go buy an extra pack of razors to shave that bald dome of yours.
Ooooo got me. I don’t have to tho, amazon subscribed
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
so now he is admitting he isn't after lying about it the whole time I am pretty sure I was calling him out in previous threads for being a liar.
He’s just gone down in my estimation
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How do you feel being 40 pounds heavier? I remember when I was down to the low 170s I felt more limber and more agile overall. Your body fat doesn't seem that high so you may still feel that way. When you really think about it, 40 pounds is a pretty significant increase in overall body weight. What are your plans moving forward? Cut down?
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
How do you feel being 40 pounds heavier? I remember when I was down to the low 170s I felt more limber and more agile overall. Your body fat doesn't seem that high so you may still feel that way. When you really think about it, 40 pounds is a pretty significant increase in overall body weight. What are your plans moving forward? Cut down?
I definitely don't feel light and limber, but yeah feel pretty good overall. Lift progression has been great, no doubt it will show when I cut back down. I'm waiting for gyms to open back up before I cut, not too keen on hitting a deficit without proper loading / training to go with it
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
whats the big deal? youre from the UK arnt you?

the majority of people in most gyms have probably done it and not even look like they lift
As usual, depends if you’ve been pretending otherwise and misleading people, including impressionable kids on here:



Like it’s all about the ‘neurological adaption” ffs:

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Originally Posted By Hammersia⏩
As usual, depends if you’ve been pretending otherwise and misleading people, including impressionable kids on here:



Like it’s all about the ‘neurological adaption” ffs:

LMAO. You try so hard, it's really sad. Go find a new hobby.

I was 3 weeks in at that point. Fuk right off. At no point have I lied about anything
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How many bagels did you eat a day for those carbs, damn jealous lol
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