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post 1606129771 05-29-2020, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Smh this is just the tipping point. This has been a problem for decades
Yes, the fact that blacks make up around 50% of the crimes, while only being around 13% of the population has been a problem for a long time.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
This simply isn't true. White people are killed by police in US more than twice as often as black people are. That's a fact. But you only every see one on the news.

Black people havenotactually "been directly experiencing mistreatment at the hands of law enforcement". It's the fault of the media, and gullible public, that people believe it to be the case.
Why are you comparing total numbers when the population difference between whites and blacks is pretty drastic.
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Bring out the machineguns already!
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Originally Posted By TheBannedBrah
Why are you comparing total numbers when the population difference between whites and blacks is pretty drastic.
I can do you one better. Why would we be comparing "population difference" and not the relative percentage of each race that commit crimes/put themselves in conflict with police. The latter would seem much more relevant.
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Originally Posted By Lolip0p
Bring out the machineguns already!
LOL. Good luck. Protesters also have guns. Pretty sure you can also get a machine gun from murica too.
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Originally Posted By TorstenOsten
Yes, the fact that blacks make up around 50% of the crimes, while only being around 13% of the population has been a problem for a long time.
and why do you think that happens? why do you think that figure is the way it is. give me your theory
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451
Sociology isn't a "science" btw.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
This simply isn't true. White people are killed by police in US more than twice as often as black people are. That's a fact. But you only every see one on the news.

Black people havenotactually "been directly experiencing mistreatment at the hands of law enforcement". It's the fault of the media, and gullible public, that people believe it to be the case.
Yes the media does sensationalize stories like that. But you're literally scapegoating only the media for this. Your not even acknowledging the lived experience.

I'm not talking about killings. I'm talking about the "random" stops. The unnecessary 911 calls on innocent black people. Unwarranted suspicion... the list goes on. The media doesn't report THAT does it?
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just saw a video on stream of a van ramming into a building repeatedly
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby
and why do you think that happens? why do you think that figure is the way it is. give me your theory
Because they’re committing crimes disproportionately. Stop trying to be clever.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby
no it's fine, I'll debate whatever, like I have been. in fact, i'm just pointing it out and pointing out the logical inconsistencies. and pointing out the racism in the misc was originally part of my debating point (whatever that started as).

this is just debate for me, but in the meanwhile, i'd like you guys to be aware of how people fukking think. and how stupid it is.

to be honest...I'm noticing alot of people are alot more...squeamish and sensitive to this topic than I even thought. because I'm feeling defensive vibes which i find...interesting.

I also enjoy breaking the forth wall, and deconstructing this forum for the users is enjoyable for me...
Fine as long as you're not ascribing motive and fabricating issues in your own mind.

That's a legitimate problem these days because I see the bullchit they teach my peers in college. It's all primer to turn them into wannabe racial justice freedom fighters in a war that they created.

I've literally had a racists' boot on my face and even I can see the systemic racism they preach about is complete bullchit.
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post 1606130041 05-29-2020, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby
and why do you think that happens? why do you think that figure is the way it is. give me your theory
It's obvious. Culture.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
This simply isn't true. White people are killed by police in US more than twice as often as black people are. That's a fact. But you only every see one on the news.

Black people havenotactually "been directly experiencing mistreatment at the hands of law enforcement". It's the fault of the media, and gullible public, that people believe it to be the case.
You need to take a stats course because you don't seem to know how to interpret the data. Whites make up the majority of the population so of course the absolute numbers will be higher. The fact remains that blacks are killed at a disproportionately higher rate than whites when compared to their percentage of the overall population.
post 1606130071 05-29-2020, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Not if they decide to endanger lives. Throw a brick at a cop. Should be shot. Break into a business? Owner has every right to protect himself and his property.
Somebody throws a brick at me, I'm shooting to kill.

That's two eyes for an eye, I can sympathize with that.

The business owner scenario is a bit of a slippery slope but I could understand killing thieves (not necessarily shoot to kill but **** happens).
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Because they’re committing crimes disproportionately. Stop trying to be clever.
it's an important question, I need to see where he stands. because in order to "fix it" I would need to see what he thinks the root is....correct?

this is logical. relax. we all have to understand one another correct?

see how uptight you guys are about potentially being called racist? lol you don't even know where i'm going with this, and you still don't "like" the way it sounds hahaha this is the problem!
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451
Sociology isn't a "science" btw.
lmao
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
You need to take a stats course because you don't seem to know how to interpret the data. Whites make up the majority of the population so of course the absolute numbers will be higher. The fact remains that blacks are killed at a disproportionately higher rate than whites when compared to their percentage of the overall population.
That fact doesn’t conclude police racism.
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post 1606130201 05-29-2020, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts
I understand the sentiment, I really do. I'm a business owner.. but damn.. Looters/Rioters are still worth more than material items.
To me they aren't. The minute you stop behaving like a civilised human being you forfeit all your rights away.

No longer relating to your quoted post bruh. I wonder if the people who cry out in this thread that there's a large portion of white people in these riots; are also the same people who'll take Trump's use of the term 'thug' to heart and claim racial profiling from it.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
It's obvious. Culture.
describe the culture.

and why don'tIascribe to this culture.
Originally Posted By TheNBAisAjoke
To me they aren't. The minute you stop behaving like a civilised human being you forfeit all your rights away.

No longer relating to your quoted post bruh. I wonder if the people who cry out in this thread that there's a large portion of white people in these riots; are also the same people who'll take Trump's use of the term 'thug' to heart and claim racial profiling from it.
well that's because you're alittle crazy then friend.

can't have you dictating things lol
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451
Sociology isn't a "science" btw.
lmao
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Im going to walk on ice here and insert my opinion...

1. I think we can all agree that racism is generally a bad thing

2. People wrongly extrapolate, draw conclusions from, and understand the statistics, the numbers, the "facts" that they use

3. Everyone is on a scale on everything, including racism. However there's a difference between being explicitly and implicitly racist. It's human nature to identify, or feel most comfortable with people who look like you. For example) when walking down a dark alleyway at midnight at 2am, if you take half a second longer to judge the situation because the person has a different skin color than you, thats implicit racism. However if in that same situation, you pull a gun and tell them to fck off, thats explicit racism
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby
it's an important question, I need to see where he stands. because in order to "fix it" I would need to see what he thinks the root is....correct?

this is logical. relax. we all have to understand one another correct?

see how uptight you guys are about potentially being called racist? lol you don't even know where i'm going with this, and you still don't "like" the way it sounds hahaha this is the problem!
These guys don't understand. It's literally an economic thing. Crime is centered in low income, low opportunity areas. Black household income is projected to fall to $0 in 2053!!! How tf?!?!https://www.theguardian.com/inequali...rns-new-report
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post 1606130431 05-29-2020, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts
Looting ≠ endangering lives. Bricks at cops, for sure, cops have a right to defend themselves.

Not condoning any of this behavior, but the "these guys should be shot" rhetoric is entirely unnecessary
Why?

Anyone who attempts to burn down my house and take my stuff should get shot, yes.
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Originally Posted By TheNBAisAjoke
To me they aren't. The minute you stop behaving like a civilised human being you forfeit all your rights away.

No longer relating to your quoted post bruh. I wonder if the people who cry out in this thread that there's a large portion of white people in these riots; are also the same people who'll take Trump's use of the term 'thug' to heart and claim racial profiling from it.
I could see how people would think that.

"Thug" generally has connotations of minorities.

Same as if you said "gangbangers".

Or like how if I said "such and such is a hillbilly" I'm 100% certain an Asian person wouldn't come to mind.

I personally don't care either way but it probably could have been worded a little better.

Why call them thugs when rioters or looters would do?

Those are the most apt descriptions vs. "thugs" which could be taken the wrong way by some.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By SlimPeanut
Im going to walk on ice here and insert my opinion...

1. I think we can all agree that racism is generally a bad thing

2. People wrongly extrapolate, draw conclusions from, and understand the statistics, the numbers, the "facts" that they use

3. Everyone is on a scale on everything, including racism. However there's a difference between being explicitly and implicitly racist. It's human nature to identify, or feel most comfortable with people who look like you. For example) when walking down a dark alleyway at midnight at 2am, if you take half a second longer to judge the situation because the person has a different skin color than you, thats implicit racism. However if in that same situation, you pull a gun and tell them to fck off, thats explicit racism
While appreciated, sensible people have been saying this for decades and it doesn't satisfy the hard left.

What we need to do is forever implicate the government and white people for being complicit in racist conspiracy.
Originally Posted By KingofLifts
These guys don't understand. It's literally an economic thing. Crime is centered in low income, low opportunity areas. Black household income is projected to fall to $0 in 2053!!! How tf?!?!https://www.theguardian.com/inequali...rns-new-report
Problem is this is being used as evidence of systemic racism and to weasel out of personal responsibility. Blacks and hipsanics murder each other at ridiculous rates and gangs are a huge problem.
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Originally Posted By kusok
Why?

Anyone who attempts to burn down my house and take my stuff should get shot, yes.
If you're in the house, it's attempted murder, yes. If you're outside, sorry brah, there's no danger to your life, no.
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts
If you're in the house, it's attempted murder, yes. If you're outside, sorry brah, there's no danger to your life, no.
There is destruction of my property = yes, should get shot.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
lmao white people - "be the change you want to see"


Also white people - "nobody cares about your accomplishments and model behavior"
What’s wrong with not caring about someones accomplishments? Probably would be the best way to judge someone solely on their character..
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
I could see how people would think that.

"Thug" generally has connotations of minorities.

Same as if you said "gangbangers".

Or like how if I said "such and such is a hillbilly" I'm 100% certain an Asian person wouldn't come to mind.

I personally don't care either way but it probably could have been worded a little better.

Why call them thugs when rioters or looters would do?

Those are the most apt descriptions vs. "thugs" which could be taken the wrong way by some.
No. Thugs are people who act like thugs, regardless of color or nationality.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby
it's an important question, I need to see where he stands. because in order to "fix it" I would need to see what he thinks the root is....correct?

this is logical. relax. we all have to understand one another correct?

see how uptight you guys are about potentially being called racist? lol you don't even know where i'm going with this, and you still don't "like" the way it sounds hahaha this is the problem!
Uptight about you insinuating racism? Maybe. Would you be uptight about if the shoe were on the other foot?

Well, since you asked him I’ll let him answer. See where the discussion goes.
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26
I wonder why they are low income ....hmmm instead of blaming the evil white man why not look elsewhere..Blacks dont value family and they dont value education. You think they cant get a good job if they really wanted to? Doesnt seem to be too hard for immigrants who come here with $5 in their pocket....Maybe instead of slangin' dope they should try opening a book...that might be a good start!
Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
While appreciated, sensible people have been saying this for decades and it doesn't satisfy the hard left.

What we need to do is forever implicate the government and white people for being complicit in racist conspiracy.



Problem is this is being used as evidence of systemic racism and to weasel out of personal responsibility. Blacks and hipsanics murder each other at ridiculous rates and gangs are a huge problem.
Hey brah? See the post above you? This is the same guy who posted "negro" in this thread, and then pussied out and deleted his post. Just one more example of the vile hatred of some of these brahs.

As to your points: I don't believe in systemic racism. I do however believe in what economists call the Matthew Principle. Derived from: Matthew 25:29: "For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath." (KJV)

I'm all for personal responsibility. No qualifications here.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby
describe the culture.

and why don'tIascribe to this culture.



well that's because you're alittle crazy then friend.

can't have you dictating things lol
Based on your posts in this thread, I get the feeling you think you're a little brighter than you actually are just because you can put together sentences.

So let me break it down for you.

If you come into my store. A store i've put entire life into. And think you can smash the windows. Take the possessions. Ruin my livelihood. All under the veil of you telling yourself you're doing it because of injustice. Let me tell you that you're going to hospital that night.

And i'll never apologise to you for it.

Want to act like an animal you'll get treated like an animal. Black yellow or white. My 'white privilege' won't discriminate.
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It's fine and healthy to be realistic about race. You have to know where you stand in the yard. But to actually hold contempt toward another race is unhealthy, but also not something I'd beat you over the head about that you're an evil racist - cause it doesn't work. It doesn't address the root cause. If you're in a dark place where hate festers you have to consider the life and message of Jesus Christ, whether you're white and hate black or black and hate white.
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