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post 1607216681 06-08-2020, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
who said genetics don't exist? the first thing i posted was a genetic test.
In which you questioned what it is to be white or black like they aren't even real.. What is genetics?

Lets start with this:

"How would he even define black? African ancestry that doesn't include Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Libya? Do you decide based on where the arbitrary borders end in latitude? What about Mauritania? What if someone has really dark skin but lives in Egypt? How much black is enough? How much is too little? How do you prove it?"

"black" is sub saharan african.

Is that clearer?
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post 1607216861 06-08-2020, 05:49 PM
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i think you should get your own dna test.
race exists. that's how we classify humans. same with breeds....and how we're able to reconstruct a skeleton from thousands of years ago.
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I came to a very similar conclusion after taking the tests and doing research, watching other people's DNA reveals etc. The differences between genotype and phenotype. How visually looking at someone is not a always an exact match to their actual ancestral origins. How people migrated all over the globe and developed into semi-homogeneous subgroups after isolating for centuries.

It's not a perfect system, but you can typically separate human beings into 4 different classifications: Negroid, caucasoid, mongoloid and australoid. All of the subgroups are a combination of these things.
post 1607219631 06-08-2020, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
In which you questioned what it is to be white or black like they aren't even real.. What is genetics?

Lets start with this:

"How would he even define black? African ancestry that doesn't include Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Libya? Do you decide based on where the arbitrary borders end in latitude? What about Mauritania? What if someone has really dark skin but lives in Egypt? How much black is enough? How much is too little? How do you prove it?"

"black" is sub saharan african.

Is that clearer?
so all south africans are black. got it
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post 1607220161 06-08-2020, 06:26 PM
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Just lol @ OP trying to obfuscate the concept of race just because he is a mutt, which should have been obvious by looking at himself and comparing himself with how White people normally look

we are all the same, yasss op
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One drop rule, homie. You know the deal. You're now 100% North African.
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Less than 1% african??????





Fookin racist!!!!!!
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Well i knew there would be some Jew in there.
post 1607220951 06-08-2020, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Just lol @ OP trying to obfuscate the concept of race just because he is a mutt, which should have been obvious by looking at himself and comparing himself with how White people normally look

we are all the same, yasss op
please define white and black for me
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Well i knew there would be some Jew in there.
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post 1607220961 06-08-2020, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
so all south africans are black. got it
Thats not what sub saharan means.

"Sub-Saharan Africa is, geographically and ethnoculturally, the area of the continent of Africa that lies south of the Sahara. According to the United Nations, it consists of all African countries and territories that are fully or partially located south of the Sahara."


The white people in actual south africa are mostly swiss, german.
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post 1607222321 06-08-2020, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
please define white and black for me



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White means European, Black means African.

Inb4 "What if I'm a citizen of Nigeria?" Obviously I'm talking about where one's descendants originate from
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post 1607222691 06-08-2020, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
We made race up op, I’ve been saying this lol. Leave it to humans to over complicate chit.
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
Thats not what sub saharan means.

"Sub-Saharan Africa is, geographically and ethnoculturally, the area of the continent of Africa that lies south of the Sahara. According to the United Nations, it consists of all African countries and territories that are fully or partially located south of the Sahara."


The white people in actual south africa are mostly swiss, german.
so what year is the cutoff? what about east africans who were colonized by arabs thousands of years ago? what about vitiligo and albinism? what specific genes get someone in the club?
Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
White means European, Black means African.

Inb4 "What if I'm a citizen of Nigeria?" Obviously I'm talking about where one's descendants originate from
i thought all humans started in africa. what year is the cutoff? how do you classify "mixed race"?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289685/

That study shows that the average self-identifying "black" American has about 1/4 european ancestry
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
so what year is the cutoff? what about east africans who were colonized by arabs thousands of years ago? what about vitiligo and albinism? what specific genes get someone in the club?



i thought all humans started in africa. what year is the cutoff? how do you classify "mixed race"?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289685/

That study shows that the average self-identifying "black" American has about 1/4 european ancestry
Out of Africa theory has been debunked several times recently and was never conclusive. It was just academic dogma.

And yes, the reason African Americans have some European ancestry is because they were raped by White people. Not sure how that's surprising. It's not because they spontaneously had European DNA develop in Africa lmao
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post 1607223851 06-08-2020, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Out of Africa theory has been debunked several times recently and was never conclusive.
links to debunking?
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Out of Africa theory has been debunked several times recently and was never conclusive. It was just academic dogma.

And yes, the reason African Americans have some European ancestry is because they were raped by White people. Not sure how that's surprising. It's not because they spontaneously had European DNA develop in Africa lmao
of course it wasn't spontaneous. if they are 1/4 european, but still black, at what proportion do they stop being black and start being european? is it whichever proportion is greater than 50% or whichever is the largest portion if none exceed 50%?
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
of course it wasn't spontaneous. if they are 1/4 european, but still black, at what proportion do they stop being black and start being european? is it whichever proportion is greater than 50% or whichever is the largest portion if none exceed 50%?
Who cares? There's "White" and "Black" as racial classifications, and by those classifications they are X percent White and Y percent Black. It doesn't matter what kind of ratios they've got going on. As for what they identify as, kinda depends on their phenotype expression and who they fit in with better, but that doesn't change or affect the biological reality of their racial composition
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Who cares? There's "White" and "Black" as racial classifications, and by those classifications they are X percent White and Y percent Black. It doesn't matter what kind of ratios they've got going on. As for what they identify as, kinda depends on their phenotype expression and who they fit in with better, but that doesn't change or affect the biological reality of their racial composition
i thought continent of ancestry was all important. how then do ratios not matter? if obama's father was zero % european and his mother was 100%, then was he really a black president?

this all seems pretty arbitrary and completely non-scientific to me
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
i thought continent of ancestry was all important. how then do ratios not matter? if obama's father was zero % european and his mother was 100%, then was he really a black president?

this all seems pretty arbitrary and completely non-scientific to me
Okay, you've completely misrepresented me. Idk if that's intentional or just poor reading comprehension, so I'll try to explain one more time.

Someone whose DNA is 25% African and 75% European, is 3/4 White and 1/4 African.

Someone whose DNA is 99% African and 1% European, is 99/100 Black, and 1/100 White.

It's that simple. Now in the latter case it would make sense if they just colloquially referred to themselves as "Black." There would be basically no White phenotypical expression, so their White DNA would be inconsequential. However it would still be there, and from a scientific standpoint they are 99% Black and 1% White.

In the instances of mixed people, whatever they identify as is irrelevant because it doesn't affect their racial composition. They will still be X percent White, Y percent Black, genetically speaking. They may personally identify as mixed, or as White, or as Black. Just depending on their phenotypical expression, who they prefer, and who they fit in with better. But how they identify is irrelevant when we're talking about biological race

Literally none of this is complicated, arbitrary, or non-scientific. It makes perfect sense and you seem like you're deliberately trying to not understand, or you're just dumb. No hate. If a dog is only part German Shepherd, does that mean that German Shepherds don't exist at all because it's a "nebulous concept?"
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yep. it goes even further than that

humanity has been a huge clusterfuk of everybody usurping everybody

i will say that doesn't mean some haven't experienced injustices, but if you include everybody's lineage they most likely have
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Does that mean your mum was gang banged at a UN convention when she got pregnant?
By the entirety of the General Assembly I'd wager. Was OP born in June by any chance?
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
yep. it goes even further than that

humanity has been a huge clusterfuk ofeverybody usurping everybody

i will say that doesn't mean some haven't experienced injustices, but if you include everybody's lineage they most likely have
except it's only caucasoids that do that to other races so don't project your evils on us

name a single non caucasoid ethnic that's tried imperialism to a different race than their own
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Okay, you've completely misrepresented me. Idk if that's intentional or just poor reading comprehension, so I'll try to explain one more time.

Someone whose DNA is 25% African and 75% European, is 3/4 White and 1/4 African.

Someone whose DNA is 99% African and 1% European, is 99/100 Black, and 1/100 White.

It's that simple. Now in the latter case it would make sense if they just colloquially referred to themselves as "Black." There would be basically no White phenotypical expression, so their White DNA would be inconsequential. However it would still be there, and from a scientific standpoint they are 99% Black and 1% White.

In the instances of mixed people, whatever they identify as is irrelevant because it doesn't affect their racial composition. They will still be X percent White, Y percent Black, genetically speaking. They may personally identify as mixed, or as White, or as Black. Just depending on their phenotypical expression, who they prefer, and who they fit in with better. But how they identify is irrelevant when we're talking about biological race

Literally none of this is complicated, arbitrary, or non-scientific. It makes perfect sense and you seem like you're deliberately trying to not understand, or you're just dumb. No hate. If a dog is only part German Shepherd, does that mean that German Shepherds don't exist at all because it's a "nebulous concept?"
race isn't biological; it's social. africans can differ by a larger % of genes than an african and a european

.01% of your genes constitute your physical appearance, but everyone acts like it's 100% of their identity. pretty crazy

the only value of any of this is to determine predisposition to disease

i bet the police in reality are profiling people based on how their car and clothes look far more than skin color anyway
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
race isn't biological; it's social. africans can differ by a larger % of genes than an african and a european

.01% of your genes constitute your physical appearance, but everyone acts like it's 100% of their identity. pretty crazy

the only value of any of this is to determine predisposition to disease

i bet the police in reality are profiling people based on how their car and clothes look far more than skin color anyway
I bet anthropologists and genealogists look at the clothes when trying to figure out what a skeleton was right?

Oh wait, they can measure the bones and take DNA samples to see race, ethnicity, gender, height....ect..

WEIRD how that works right?
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Originally Posted By SWDeath⏩
I bet anthropologists and genealogists look at the clothes when trying to figure out what a skeleton was right?

Oh wait, they can measure the bones and take DNA samples to see race, ethnicity, gender, height....ect..

WEIRD how that works right?
yeah, most of their scientific papers talk about how the skeleton they dug up was white or black
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Good job OP, now the Israeli government has your DNA info.

SRS, look it up
i'm .2% jew apparently, so i'm immune to those fukktards
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Originally Posted By 58220⏩
except it's only caucasoids that do that to other races so don't project your evils on us

name a single non caucasoid ethnic that's tried imperialism to a different race than their own
you know the theory is that white skin only developed cause its more sensitive to sun light right? that's why most whites are northern european. aka far away from the equator

i have seen another theory that it was nutrition and a lack of vitamin d, but it's the same result in that the skin turned white in order to absorb more vitamin d
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
you know the theory is that white skin only developed cause its more sensitive to sun light right? that's why most whites are northern european. aka far away from the equator

i have seen another theory that it was nutrition and a lack of vitamin d, but it's the same result in that the skin turned white in order to absorb more vitamin d
what?
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