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» I've realized why I hate this BLM movement, and it has nothing to do with race.
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post 1608688341 06-24-2020, 06:02 PM
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This would be a good triggering post on reddit.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
The problem is that race does matter, its a significant factor on our lives. And in the USA blacks get the s*it end of things based on race all the time. And it needs to be addressed for once
It actually doesn't, and isn't.
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
The fringe on all sides are f’n nuts. That’s all we hear about and see from the media and Most of us know their agenda. I’m worried for the normal folks of all races going on with their day without bothering anyone, our children, older parents and grand parents. Also there’s only so much the white people will take until it actually starts causing racism to grow far worse. It’s going to cause a lot of violence all directed at innocent people who just want to live their lives.
That is my thing. Protest and cry all you want, I will ignore it. But when innocent people start getting harmed, or bullied into doing something when they are just trying to go about their days, it is no longer ok.

And when they are actively calling out people for just refusing to participate in this madness, painting them with a racist image etc, it will only divide everybody further, as they're essentially forcing them to a side in a 'battle' they didn't even want to be a part of.

Where is the person who will stand for the people in the middle, the people who don't want to be a part of either of these fanatical groups and just want to live their fuking lives. Since when is it racist to not wanting to protest the death of a violent criminal, or stand beside people vandalizing the cities they grew up in?

I will never ever stand with someone who put an innocent and their unborn child through that pain. Really any home invader can fuking die immediately in the worst way possible, and I won't feel a thing and that will never change. I don't care what color they are, how they grew up, what they went through. All I can think about is if my wife was at home alone with an unborn kid and had a gun pointed at her. Why would I feel sympathy for that person dying? These are the victims and the people the public should stand beside.
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Originally Posted By 58220
no, you hate it because at a subconscious level it makes you realize the blacks/ethnics are tearing down the white world order and soon enough white male privilege will be over, you hate it because the white supremacist america you know is crumbling before your eyes but no one around you including yourself is doing anything to arrest it, you feel so weak and helpless don't you?

it's over, white america is over and you need to be ok with that
BLM is just like Antifa. They are a facist/marxist/leftist hate group. They use nice "slogans" to try to legitimize their political goals. And if you disagree with their slogans you are the enemy.

they are anti-facists ! if you're against them it means you're a facist!
they are anti-racists! if you're against them if means you're racist!

and if you are a facist or a racist you can be attacked!

read history. they are no different than any other leftist/communists in any other country.

BLM just attacked a gay state senator, destroyed his phone for taking pictures.
Oh yeah, just defaced and threw a statue of an abolitionist dutchman who fought and died for the union.
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Originally Posted By Savux
It actually doesn't, and isn't.
Yes it is, just because it isnt for you personally doesn't mean it's not for others. Stop being so solipsistic
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Yes it is, just because it isnt for you personally doesn't mean it's not for others. Stop being so solipsistic
My reply was not based on anecdotal evidence.

I am the complete opposite of solipsistic. You sound like you're projecting.
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Completely agree with the OP. I treat everyone with the same respect they treat me with. The majority do. It has nothing to do with skin color. This whole thing is a complete scam and overblown by the MSM. Glad I don’t live in an urban area that are always run by democrats. Democrats— Let everyone do what they want so we can get some votes this fall.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
The problem is that race does matter, its a significant factor on our lives. And in the USA blacks get the s*it end of things based on race all the time. And it needs to be addressed for once
Keep saying this, maybe it will become the truth after a thousand times.
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the movement was hijacked by anarchists, socialists, anti-capitalists. hence the destruction of many businesses. its not BLM its (((them)))
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Yes it is, just because it isnt for you personally doesn't mean it's not for others. Stop being so solipsistic
Let's say this.

Racism does exist, to an extent. Just as other prejudices exist. What are you going to do about it? Burn down all of the cities to convince people that racism exists? Why is the prejudice you face more important or hindering than prejudice others will face? Should we tear down cities for other things people are discriminated against outside of their control?

While I agree it is wrong, and I would never stand for it in person. Violent acts, vandalism, bullying of innocents based specifically on race, is the complete wrong way to go about your movement.

In what fantasy land do you live in that you believe any of this behavior will transform the actual racists (not the majority) into non-racists?

The majority will not stand for racism or accept it. With this behavior, you are grouping a lot of good people who would not stand for any sort of racism, in with the racist category. Forcing them to a corner due to their skin color, isn't this supposed to be what you are protesting?

And if the purpose is not to stop people from being racist, what is the purpose of the violence, looting, crimes taking place right now? What is the goal? To silence racism? The people who are actually racist will still think racist, and act racist. They will just be quieter about it, and in larger volumes due to how many people you are pushing away who never thought this before.

Or it will cause an actual backlash and in worst case scenario, a civil war.

You cannot change the way some people think, no matter what there will always be a % of racist pieces of ****. Or general pieces of ****. Tearing down cities is not going to change anything. Everybody was already aligned that the police officer should have been charged for what he did, and it would have happened regardless.
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Originally Posted By blessbrah
the movement was hijacked by anarchists, socialists, anti-capitalists. hence the destruction of many businesses. its not BLM its (((them)))
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Originally Posted By Savux
Let's say this.

Racism does exist, to an extent. Just as other prejudices exist. What are you going to do about it? Burn down all of the cities to convince people that racism exists? Why is the prejudice you face more important or hindering than prejudice others will face? Should we tear down cities for other things people are discriminated against outside of their control?

While I agree it is wrong, and I would never stand for it in person. Violent acts, vandalism, bullying of innocents based specifically on race, is the complete wrong way to go about your movement.

In what fantasy land do you live in that you believe any of this behavior will transform the actual racists (not the majority) into non-racists?

The majority will not stand for racism or accept it. With this behavior, you are grouping a lot of good people who would not stand for any sort of racism, in with the racist category. Forcing them to a corner due to their skin color, isn't this supposed to be what you are protesting?

And if the purpose is not to stop people from being racist, what is the purpose of the violence, looting, crimes taking place right now? What is the goal? To silence racism? The people who are actually racist will still think racist, and act racist. They will just be quieter about it, and in larger volumes due to how many people you are pushing away who never thought this before.

Or it will cause an actual backlash and in worst case scenario, a civil war.

You cannot change the way some people think, no matter what there will always be a % of racist pieces of ****. Or general pieces of ****. Tearing down cities is not going to change anything. Everybody was already aligned that the police officer should have been charged for what he did, and it would have happened regardless.
At the very least we need to acknowledge the problem exists and be willing to find solutions. Most of the misc acts like racism doesnt exist. The misc is also mostly white. Weird
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
At the very least we need to acknowledge the problem exists and be willing to find solutions. Most of the misc acts like racism doesnt exist. The misc is also mostly white. Weird
I'm not even going to make an argument here. I am genuinely wanting to know what you want to accomplish.

This is going to happen, whether it is acknowledged or not. Just as I said other prejudices will continue to happen. I've met people who won't rent their suites to Indian people as they don't like the smell of their food. I've had Chinese friends make jokes about not renting to white people because they aren't responsible with their money. This **** is going to happen no matter how much you stomp your feet, or how many cities you tear down. And if anything, it will only make it worse.

The ONLY change to racism that can come of these riots is the racism gets suppressed, where these people stop being racist in ways that they can get filmed, or harmed, and they do it in other ways. It will also spread to the point that now it isn't just Billy in Texas that is a racist, no, the old guy who likely never was racist and posted his black square was just trying to finish his shift at Macy's got jumped, now he is likely a racist, telling everybody about the experience he had.

If you focus your life on what ****ty people are doing, you are going to be miserable. Even if in the miraculous event that you wave a magic wand and somehow nobody on planet earth is racist anymore, tomorrow you will wake up and life will fuk you for something else that you can't change.

Focus on what you can change internally.
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Originally Posted By Savux
I'm not even going to make an argument here. I am genuinely wanting to know what you want to accomplish.

This is going to happen, whether it is acknowledged or not. Just as I said other prejudices will continue to happen. I've met people who won't rent their suites to Indian people as they don't like the smell of their food. I've had Chinese friends make jokes about not renting to white people because they aren't responsible with their money. This **** is going to happen no matter how much you stomp your feet, or how many cities you tear down. And if anything, it will only make it worse.

The ONLY change to racism that can come of these riots is the racism gets suppressed, where these people stop being racist in ways that they can get filmed, or harmed, and they do it in other ways. It will also spread to the point that now it isn't just Billy in Texas that is a racist, no, the old guy who likely never was racist and posted his black square was just trying to finish his shift at Macy's got jumped, now he is likely a racist, telling everybody about the experience he had.

If you focus your life on what ****ty people are doing, you are going to be miserable. Even if in the miraculous event that you wave a magic wand and somehow nobody on planet earth is racist anymore, tomorrow you will wake up and life will fuk you for something else that you can't change.

Focus on what you can change internally.
There's a lot we can do. In terms of the most obvious, is putting in place better rules so the police cant kill blacks(or anyone) unless its necessary. Which obviously isnt the case right now.


Another big part is we can stop accepting racism. It is absolutely tolerated behind closed doors cause people dont call it out and make racist s*its face any consequences. That's why a lot of the burden is on white folks to not tolerate that s*it when they see it among friends/family/coworkers etc. Stop supporting people/places/things that are racist. Cause those things will make a difference. Passive acceptance of that s*it is why it continues to exist

Its absolutely ridiculous to just say "we cant fix it so shut up and deal with it n*ggers". That's basially what you're trying to say, and thats whats been said for decades to blacks and they clearly arent having that anymore. Actions must be made to make things better.
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What’s funny is liberals will parrot mass incarceration of blacks as modern day slavery, without addressing the majority of the victims in those crimes are also black





The average BLM marcher is a loser in society. Doesn’t matter what color. Productive people don’t have time for that ****
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Originally Posted By Savux
Even if in the miraculous event that you wave a magic wand and somehow nobody on planet earth is racist anymore, tomorrow you will wake up and life will fuk you for something else that you can't change.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
The problem is that race does matter, its a significant factor on our lives. And in the USA blacks get the s*it end of things based on race all the time. And it needs to be addressed for once
You mean diversity quotas in education, employment, media representation, awards, scholarships and every thing else is the shyt end?

Black people get treated better then everyone else. By the system.

I'm surprised that people act like they're victims lol

If Asians had half the crap black people had, most people would be forced to go to community College and work in trades cause of Asians beating them out
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Been a part of the No Lives Matter club for a while now and honestly think everyone starting sht in the streets should just be shot then thrown in a ditch. Really don't care about *******s at all anymore. Always knew we were animals and these days I don't see most people as human because of their actions/behavior/feelings.
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Originally Posted By snailsrus
Pretty sure anyone that fights a cop, drunk resisting arrest for a dui and steals their taser and shoots it in the police’s direction risks getting shot, race wouldn’t matter. Was it excessive force sure, but was it because of race or circumstances
Was it excessive force?

The answer to that is no
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed
You mean diversity quotas in education, employment, media representation, awards, scholarships and every thing else is the shyt end?

Black people get treated better then everyone else. By the system.

I'm surprised that people act like they're victims lol

If Asians had half the crap black people had, most people would be forced to go to community College and work in trades cause of Asians beating them out
This is true. There is no real measurable racism in america in terms of people being treated worse based on their skin color. Hasnt been that way for a while, and if someone is black and wants to succeed there will be doors held open for them

What is left though is the structural and wealth differences from years of racist policies that have left urban america unable to take part in the American Dream. Results from jim crow, the war on drugs, etc.


Of course BLM hardly focuses on this. Focus more on stable families and viola the problem will solve itself. Police brutality is just a symptom of this issue, not the issue itself, and is proven not to be biased based on race.
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I am not for it because it is just being used as a way to funnel money into Democrat campaign funds.

Look at where the funds go. They aren't looking at helping the people they say they are.
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed
You mean diversity quotas in education, employment, media representation, awards, scholarships and every thing else is the shyt end?
"diversity quotas" are a myth. Blacks have very low representation in most industries. It has been proven that blacks are strongly discriminated against in employment.

https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discr...ed-in-25-years

cliffs: the exact same resume with a black name is much less likely to get an interview. So that is a myth.

Your other points are nonsense too. None of those things make racism and discrimination in other ways ok. just lol
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean
This is true. There is no real measurable racism in america in terms of people being treated worse based on their skin color.
https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discr...ed-in-25-years

Look, I'm sorry but you're white. You are totally ignorant to the impact of skin color because you are in the race that isnt discriminated against and holds most of the power. Cant you see that?
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
"diversity quotas" are a myth. Blacks have very low representation in most industries. It has been proven that blacks are strongly discriminated against in employment.

https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discr...ed-in-25-years

cliffs: the exact same resume with a black name is much less likely to get an interview. So that is a myth.

Your other points are nonsense too. None of those things make racism and discrimination in other ways ok. just lol
You have never worked a corporate job if you remotely believe this


Blacks are underrepresented because they by and large aren’t qualified , even with companies bending over backwards to help them. Same with women and stem
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discr...ed-in-25-years

Look, I'm sorry but you're white. You are totally ignorant to the impact of skin color because you are in the race that isnt discriminated against and holds most of the power. Cant you see that?
Nah you’re thinking of the Jews
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discr...ed-in-25-years

Look, I'm sorry but you're white. You are totally ignorant to the impact of skin color because you are in the race that isnt discriminated against and holds most of the power. Cant you see that?
FYI whites aren’t even the wealthiest race in America


Or second


So what’s your excuse again?
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean
You have never worked a corporate job if you remotely believe this


Blacks are underrepresented because they by and large aren’t qualified , even with companies bending over backwards to help them. Same with women and stem
I posted a source that shows the data of the EXACT SAME RESUME getting less callbacks if the person is black. So you're wrong.
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean
FYI whites aren’t even the wealthiest race in America


Or second


So what’s your excuse again?
look, you clearly want to deny reality. Most of the wealthy and business ownership, and political leadership is white.

How are trying to deny this dude
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
look, you clearly want to deny reality. Most of the wealthy and business ownership, and political leadership is white.

How are trying to deny this dude
Yes, most politicians and business owners are the same race as most people in the U.S. shocker.


But on average whites still have less income and wealth than Asian and Indian Americans, many of which have only been in America for 2 generations



You can blame racism for yourself being a loser, doesn’t make you any less of a loser
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean
Yes, most politicians and business owners are the same race as most people in the U.S. shocker.


But on average whites still have less income and wealth than Asian and Indian Americans, many of which have only been in America for 2 generations



You can blame racism for yourself being a loser, doesn’t make you any less of a loser
herp derp, guess you dont understand the concept of group wealth. As a group, whites have the most money and the most power by far. Yes some of that is due to pure numbers, but the impact on society is still the same.

And again you ignored the study for some reason, weird.
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