Imagine seeing the last group that went over all being mowed down by artillery and machine gun fire?

Imagine the smell off piss, sh*t and infected wounds? Imagine being a part of a strategy that was to keep throwing bodies until the enemy were overwhelmed and ran out of ammunition?

Imagine knowing you will never see the next hour?

Imagine you're doing this for someone crying about a movie not having enough diversity or their University degree costs too much, or that Corvid is a truly horrific world to be living in. lol.

Seriously, poor kids. Even those who knew what was up were forced to die. We couldn't even imagine that environment, we've never been in a more easy time in human history with technology and flexible laws.

Russians charging without equipment is literally nazi propaganda, there was never a time where they even lacked equipment. If anything, the reverse is true, the nazis lacked everything from rifles, to bullets to cold weather gear when they got encircled at Stalingrad.

Order 227 is true. The reason so many soviets died is commissar pencil pushers with 0 combat experience were the ones standing in safety, just out of reach, with his pistol drawn, ready to shoot anyone who fell back, even when completely logical to retreat.

Also, soviet generals and their families would literally get executed if they didn't make satisfactory progress, so they spent the lives of their troop like water. It didn't matter at what cost it took, as long as your families didn't die. They were not fighting a battle of tactics, but of pure desperation.

Also, any captured soldier would be branded a collaborator, and would be killed when re-captured, so they fought to die in any case.

Almost all experienced Russian offers died in the great purge, most of the new officers that replaced them were completely useless, and for the majority of them, the only tactic they knew was human wave.

A lot of it was a massive waste of lives, deaths from politicking.

It wasn't just Americans, it was the allies.

Also - WW1 was for more brutal sending young men over the top 10 100% death.

Saving Private Ryan triggered PTSD for D-Day gets it was so accurate.


I've seen the movie countless times and i can't even imagine going into Omaha Beach was like. That generation are heroes..sad that most of them are gone/getting older...

They were real men who weren't full of soy and virtue signalling.

I listened to the long as Dan Carlin podcast, and WWI was brutal on all sides. You would be standing in the trench minding your own business, and at the next moment, you'd be choking to death by chlorine gas. There was mustard gas too, which took longer, but made you blister everywhere on your skin, and cough up bits of your lungs. The french marched in formation in bright blue uniforms and got mowed down by the thousands. Trench living was actually the worst part. You were constantly standing in chit and peace, rotting bodies all around you, some in the trench wall, some over the top, some in the trenches, at times you had to stand on bodies, constantly rotting. When shelling started, they didn't know to open their mouths, so they bled out from the ears and became deaf. Constant tension, constant chit smell, constant sounds and explosions, 24/7/365. Sappers always trying to infiltrate and stab people to death. Lots of people getting the plague. I think over the top was the best part for many of them, at least they didn't have to suffer all that anymore.

soviet and nazi fighting on eastern front is exponentially worse than WWI though, which is exponentially worse than allied western front. 90% of nazis died in eastern front, and several times more soviets died in stalingrad than the allies throughout the entire war. Eastern front was where the nazis brought their scariest chit like tigers, king tigers, panthers, panzer iv, etc. Stalingrad is almost literally a winter hell on earth. Bands of nazi cannibals running around eating freshly dead bodies of their fellow soldiers. People literally dying on their feet from cold and malnutrition. The nazi army group doctor did autopsy on several of them and their heart was the size of a walnut. Nazis running around hacking off feet from half-dead fellows to steal their boots. Soviets building a tank, not even painting it, but sending it out from the factory door to the front line. soviet wave attacks dying by the thousands everyday. soviet troop being forced to swim across the volga river in sub zero temperature to reach the front lines. Hand to hand fighting using bayonets. Then you get Leningrad with soviet cannibals running around eating children. Children killing parents so they wouldn't need to share food. There was an account by a mother who hated her son, and wished him death because he was a mouth to feed. Living in the freezing cold with 3 dead bodies in your house. Normality to them was the ability to cry and feel sad. Chit was so fukked, all they felt was hunger and nothing else, not when their kids, their parents, their friends died.

Lots of situations, and wars, even today, infinitely more fukked than normandy beach landing. At least that was a victory invasion, the war against the nazis was pretty much won at that point, and the soviets were halfway to berlin weeks before the first boat landed.

This. Many countries had great losses and many massacres happened before Normandy. Americans went to war in Europe because of politics. Nobody forced these people to go there and risk their lives just to prove something, and yet they went. They fought for someone else's interests, while people in Europe fought for their homes and families. But in war everybody dies, not only good or only bad. Too many innocent people died on both sides.

Didn't know about the equipment part. But in movies and games, they make it look like the soviets didn't have enough material.

When america joined, the war was pretty much won. Their main purpose was to halt the soviet march from berlin to france. When they joined, 70% of the wehrmacht was dead in the eastern front already. All they had were young boys, old men, and pre-war equipment. They couldn't say it straight to stalin's face though, so they did it under the pretext of stopping nazi germany. That's why the western front allies cut into the heart of berlin like a hot knife through butter. nazi soldiers were surrendering to them en masse. Even the most decorate tiger commander, otto carius, literally wrote in his memoirs that he fought his way through the soviet hordes in the east to surrender to the allies in the west. The western front being a heroic war is an utter myth created by hollywood, it was just old men, young boys and remnants rushing west to surrender. There was fighting sure, but given that 90% of the wehrmacht died in the eastern front, the western front could barely be called a battlefield, much less an entire front.

It was a great move by america too, minimal casualties, maximum gains. It was the only country to exit WWII relatively unscathed, which is a big part of why its a superpower today.

You guys should read “D-Day Through German Eyes.” It’s only a couple bucks on amazon kindle and not a long read. I didn’t realize a few things until I read that book.

90% of the casualties on Omaha occurred during the first 20 minutes or so.

The Germans HATED that the British and Americans actually sided with the Russians and didn’t understand it for the life of them. It pissed them off to no end that they had to divert resources and men from the eastern front to defend Normandy against an enemy they really weren’t passionate about killing. They just had to deal with it.

There were thousands of Russian defectors who fought for the Germans in Normandy.

The Germans nearly all sh!t themselves when they saw thousands of ships coming towards them on D-Day. They said it was like an enormous wall of steel coming towards them and they all looked at each other like “Yep.....we’re all fukked.”

One German soldier couldn’t believe how physically large the Americans were. He said “I don’t know if they put all their tallest men in the front, but these guys were huge and with their scary looking Thompson sub machine guns, they were an intimidating presence, lol.”

Another German soldier ran out in the open to fetch a dead American’s Thompson because he knew from American films how powerful it was. They did the same thing with the Russian PPSH sub machine gun or “Papashaw” as they called it.

They said the French civilians were mostly on their side and a lot of Germans had kids with French sloots. Until the Allies landed and then they threw French pussy at the Americans like their lives depended on it, lol.

A lot of the German Wehrmacht despised the Waffen SS because they were given all the best equipment. They considered them a glorified unit and often times, they didn’t work well together.

Another German machine gunner mowed down so many Americans on D-Day he started to cry when there was a lull in the fighting. He couldn’t make sense of the Americans sending wave after wave of these young men into the lions den. MG42 crossfire meant certain death pretty much.

Hitler really blew it big time on D-Day. He had a known habit of staying up late at night and waking up late. Nobody had the balls to wake him up and when they did report to him that the invasion was happening, he played it off and kept insisting that Normandy was the diversion and that the real invasion was going to happen with Patton invading the Pas-De -Calais which was the shortest and most obvious invasion point for the Allies. It was the most heavily defended area and he didn’t give Rommel enough resources to defend Normandy. Hitler kept a sh!tload of his panzer divisions in reserve to deploy to whichever area the Allies attacked. And by the time he gave the order to send those divisions towards the beaches, it was too late and the Allies had already set up shop and dug their heels in.

The hedgerows in France were much taller than could be seen by allied Reconaissance planes which slowed us down big time. One German MG42 could hold back entire divisions and the tanks had a sh!t ton of trouble going through or around those hedgerows.

Interesting.

Btw, this is probably the most interesting video I've seen about WWII.

Cliffs: Nazis lost because lack of oil.

I think this is definitely a part of it. This as well as the pressure to serve one's country in times of war. If you recall, in the beginning of Band of Brothers there is a scene in which they ask some of the surviving members of Easy Company why they joined and why they went Airborne. One of the interviewees says that in his town there were a couple of kids who committed suicide because they were declared "4-F", unfit for military service. Not fighting for your country in times of war was/is seen as a disgrace.

Another interesting POV is in the documentary 'They Shall Not Grow Old', which is about WWI. In it they use first hand accounts (interviews, diaries, etc.) and it is very apparent that the kids (15, 16 year olds in some cases) who signed up literally had no idea what they were getting themselves into. They had no idea how deadly new weapons like machine guns were or how brutal chemical weapons like mustard gas could be. Obviously WWI was in a different time but people then were much more blindly patriotic and believed in things like fighting for the empire without question. Another point that speaks to this is from the documentary 'The Vietnam War' by Ken Burns. In it, he interviews many vets and in one of the interviews that's included in the documentary, one of them says that Vietnam was a turning point because it was the last war/time period in which Americans had faith in their government and believed in supporting their country whether right or wrong. After all the evidence of the leaders having known the war was unwinnable came to light, it changed the way people looked at their government. I think people today are far more distrusting of governments, in large part because we have seen tons of evidence of how corrupt they are.

He's right. The war was pretty much over when hitler decided to split army group south - the entire invading army in russia into army group A and group B. group A was sent to capture the oil fields in the Caucasus, but got led on a wild goose chase, because it was too small. group B was sent to stalingrad to get annihilated. The entire reason hitler did that was eugenics and vanity. He believed that the slavic people were incompetent sub-human surrender monkeys, and didn't need as many soldiers to annihilate them. Also, he wanted to destroy stalin's name by capturing "his" city. In reality, russia pulled back quickly to stretch nazi supply lines, which is pretty much the only smart thing the soviets did in the entire war, but had the added advantage of making them look weak and chitty, when they were anything but.

It wasn't completely gone, but the more hitler meddled, the more he lost, the angrier he got, and the more he meddled. He always believed germany lost WWI due to internal sabotage by the jews, gypsies, freemasons, or who whoever the fuk. German people in his mind were too superior to lose without internal sabotage. So in this case, when he lost, he blamed his generals. He actually started out with a very competent group, and it ended with him, a bunch of kissarses, and that fatarse hermann goring, who had the impossible idea of airdropping supplies to the surrounded 6th army in stalingrad, that caused them to be annihilated. he was so far gone that towards the end of the war, he forced trains to run extended schedules to concentration camps for genocide, rather than send material to the front where it was needed. It wasn't a war for him, it was a racial struggle. you can have all your racial fantasies or whatever, but you still need someone with a head screwed on to win the war for you. The fact that he was heavily on meth didn't help at all.

As for your question about the myth of 2 soviets to a gun:

https://www.stalkerzone.org/one-rifl...red-army-1941/
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/his...t-in-wwii.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistoria...iers_into_ww2/

The Americans joined in late in the game because of Pearl Harbour.

Great Britain was never attacked first and joined the effort because Poland was attacked.

At the end of the day everyone went to war because of politics.

All those who fought in the war are equally heroic (excluding the French & Italians).

I think he always watches over you and knows what you feel and what you have grown up into because of him. My respect and that's a beautiful story. *bow*

Imagine being in a theater in 1998, sitting down, and seeing this scene start on the big screen

Furrrakkk

Now women fight men and think they're evil because you know, patriarchy and stuff.

Now you have two political parties who release propaganda about each other being evil and destroying the country on mainstream media.

Now you have people who don't give a crap about anything except themselves.

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My Grandad was aboard a cruiser during D-day, he couldn't bring himself to watch this film.

Is it really hissing and crying if you don’t want to fight in a war that was started just to make wealthy men wealthier?

Only cucks fight for countries that lie to them and steal from them at every turn so politicians can have fat wallets and extra holiday homes.

Bet he wishes he didn’t make it back home when he looks at you

If you haven't seen the documentary WW2 in Color on Netflix you should. Goes through everything leading up to and the end of the war and has some amazing footage. The things that men did in the war are absolute mind boggling as well as the scale of it all. Truly makes you sit back and rethink how lucky we are those men/women sacrificed so much for everything we have now. This should be shown to kids in school so they realize this more.

Fast forward to 2020 where kneeling during the national anthem is considered the ultimate sacrifice in bravery.

Want to blow your mind some more.

Just about every island landing in the Pacific was a smaller scale Dday.

So there were guys that did that over and over.

War sucks. It still does.

Yes lots of amphibious landings in the Pacific war.

The first one was done by the Canadians at Dieppe.

The Japanese military were absolutely disgusting during WW2 in the Pacific.

Extremely cruel and evil towards the prisoners they took srs.

That's why the world just shrugged when they got nuked.

Fuk Japan srs.

And today the same families (Rothschilds, Rockefellers) that put the Nazis in power, and funded them, run the World Health Organization, CDC, and the Govt., except no one is fighting back to make the perpetrators truly suffer consequences commensurate with that they've done to us.

So what’s your point fatboy?

UK and US were absolutely Disgusting to innocents in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria....

War brings out the worst in people, doesn’t matter where the fuk you are from

Stop posting.