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post 1611403571 07-22-2020, 09:24 PM
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Any brahs into meditation?

I've been having some crippling anxiety and panic attacks lately lol. trying to get any insight of the benefits or any insight how to get started to see if it helps out
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Close your eyes, break deep, don't force it but just let go of your mind, thoughts, stress.
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Checking in, although I don't do it as much as I plan, and mostly practice mindfulness for lucid dreaming. I don't subscribe to it being as magical as many say, but it definitely helps you know your mind and be aware of your thoughts. Maybe that sort of objective view will help with your panic attacks? I don't get either of those myself, but I used to have severe night terrors/sleep paralysis, so I had to come to terms with some subconscious fears, definitely mentally healthier in that arena.

Just google 'mindful meditation' or something, it's basically as simple as relaxing yourself and focusing your awareness on your breath/senses, and whenever your mind wanders into thought, you just realize that thought passively, and return to your attention to breathing. I'm no teacher or expert on the subject, though.
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Nope. Never understood why people who do it, but I guess it's because I don't have anxiety or panic attacks. I would consider my two periods of "meditation" to be waking up early and walking or enjoying the quiet to think, or when I lift. Those are the two times I am very focused in thinking and generally dictate my day.

Prayer is a form of meditation for me too, but a lot of people aren't really religious nowadays.
post 1611404321 07-22-2020, 09:37 PM
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Lay on your bed and find a good rhythm to breath using a timer (get a bell timer app or something). 5 seconds should do it, but experiment and see what time works best (maybe 3 seconds, 4 or 6 etc). Breathe in for 5 seconds, breathe breathe out for 5 seconds. Focus on your heart and as you exhale let go of any and all tension in your chest/heart center and neck.

Your anxiety as like an onion, and each time you exhale and let go of some of the tension, you are peeling away a layer of the onion (don't literally do this, I'm just giving you an visual explanation of how it works).

If you do this every day you will be a new man in a few weeks srs. You can do it while watching tv, sitting in traffic, it doesn't matter. But the best time to do it is when you first wake up before you've even opened your eyes. Try it for a few weeks and see.
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post 1611404451 07-22-2020, 09:39 PM
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I developed a pretty good habit of it the past 2-3 years or so. As long as you're not expecting it to be absolutely life-changing, its a good habit. It won't save your life. Its basically a reset button. Used to do about 30-45 minutes a day. I've gone on distance runs where I consistently go about 90 minutes in one go, however I kinda found that excessive.

Now I will do a 20-30 minute session whenever I feel like it.
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I learned Meditation through self reflection.

I would start by thinking about my day, if anything upset me or pained me that day I'd feel out my emotions to find out why. Like an onion, you peel back layers until you get to the root of your problem.

Eventually you'll work through all your problems so the only thing left is happiness.

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There are many different types of meditation OP
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Been doing it for 1.5 years. Aim for everyday but I have had periods where I didn't do it for a month or so and I noticed a huge difference. I've been doing it almost everyday for the past 1-2 months.

For me it helps a lot. I still get stressed in certain situations but 5 minutes later its like a clean slate and I've already forgotten about whatever stressed me out. I'm a lot calmer throughout the day and I take life as it comes way more than I used to. It won't turn you into Buddha or anything but over time you will realize that your anxiety/stress doesn't have as much of a grip on your life. I'd recommend it. It works best when you do it every single day as soon as you wake up. Even better results come from consistent 2x a day sessions.
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meditation help me in the darkest most depressing time in my life. Where i was considering hurting myself i just randomly found this book called “awakening loving kindness” by pema chodron.

It allowed me to separate myself from my emotions, but mostly it taught me that i could find peace and bliss and happiness from within. Without the need of anything external. That was life changing. Haven’t had social anxiety since.
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I was not into any form of meditation or wellness in that form, at all. Until someone I really trust introduced me to Vipassana and suggested I do a 10 day silent meditation retreat as a test.

I did. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done, but also one of the most rewarding, and something I'll continue to practice until my dying day.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
I was not into any form of meditation or wellness in that form, at all. Until someone I really trust introduced me to Vipassana and suggested I do a 10 day silent meditation retreat as a test.

I did. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done, but also one of the most rewarding, and something I'll continue to practice until my dying day.
I've always wanted to try one of those retreats. Might do that in the future theres a Zazen retreat a few hours outside of NYC that I really thought about doing when I was balls deep into meditation.

Always sounded like a solid decision to try one. Just never went through with it.
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Yeah bro, I started meditating 9 years ago when I was 15 just guided ones through youtube videos, to calm my thoughts and just make me less anxious ect. Over the years my practice has deepened so much, through insight, experience, and learning various forms plus listening to podcasts/audiobooks and reading old texts.

It is one of the most beneficial things I've ever done in my life right up there with lifting. I've tried many types, my current and probably favorite is Vipassana. I've had some crazy af experiences with it and due to it. My longest streak of daily 30 min sits is 150+ days in a row srs. Your entire mental reality changes. I got to a point where I could break down the experience of "anxiety" to such small fragments. The physical sensations of tightening chest, perspiration, increases blood pressure etc, the thought storm that accompanies it. I could break those down into moment by moment sensation and allowed them to pass, completely transformed the way I experience things

I've been slacking lately thoughWhen I'm consistent its incredible. Life changing srs
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I've read a book on mindfulness and how we process are thoughts. Tried meditating but from my own experience I feel that if you want your meditation to be successful you really have to put your time and effort into it before it actually becomes beneficial.
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Originally Posted By CougarP01⏩
I've always wanted to try one of those retreats. Might do that in the future theres a Zazen retreat a few hours outside of NYC that I really thought about doing when I was balls deep into meditation.

Always sounded like a solid decision to try one. Just never went through with it.
It is incredible, but again - one of the hardest things I have ever done. I can't speak for all kinds of meditation, but Vipassana essentially helps you "see things as they are". And this can be a brutal and unpleasant awakening - especially regarding who you are, in relation to who you thought you were.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
So nobody else had bad experiences with meditation?

Actually I know Caeculus did, he mentioned the same effects of depersonalization and derealization. Which are arguably the goals of meditation.
See above. In my 10 day retreat the 4th day really made me see some of the most uncomfortable truths of my life. Somehow I made it through, and the road after that has been completely different, and for the better (overall). Again, one of the hardest things I have ever done.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
So nobody else had bad experiences with meditation?

Actually I know Caeculus did, he mentioned the same effects of depersonalization and derealization. Which are arguably the goals of meditation.
I've read about bad experiences people had while deep into a retreat where they have been meditating for days on end. I would assume its because there's nothing for the mind to latch onto as its wandering so it then just keeps on finding suppressed memories.

Maybe I'm weird, but I get the depersonalizing part of meditation you speak of, and I kind of like it.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
So nobody else had bad experiences with meditation?

Actually I know Caeculus did, he mentioned the same effects of depersonalization and derealization. Which are arguably the goals of meditation.
It takes time and lots of practice. U gotta make it a habit. Pretty sure you're doing it wrong and ur mind wanders all over the place when u do it. U can't do it for a few days then say it don't work and stop. U must make it a habit. U cannot have negative thoughts. If u keep telling urself it doesn't work then it won't work. U r letting ur subconcious mind control ur thoughts. Keep doing it everyday and it will work. How u think is how you're going to feel.
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You don't need to sit there for hours and close your eyes - **** is boring and you will get distracted.

Rather when you're doing something - increase the intensity of your concentration - that'll do wonders for your mind, rather than wasting time closing your eyes and ending up going to sleep. This act alone will expand your consciousness, the goal of meditation
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
No it’s not about personality or feelings. It’s realizing that your true identity is only awareness.

And that awareness only exists by the things it is aware of. So there is really no distinction between you and those things. Your personality is an illusion. Your self is an illusion because you are not separate.


“To study the Buddha Way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by myriad things. When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away. No trace of enlightenment remains, and this no-trace continues endlessly.”

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This is some passive ****. Life itself isABOUTthe story of you.

Either you disappear into the chaos or make it as epic as possible.

What would you rather be?
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Really wish this forum had a tag feature so I could @ Caeculus. Seems like he is the only one here with a similar experience.
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I’m saying that’s what I experienced in meditation. You lose your person and you lose normal reality.

That’s why I stopped meditation and went back into regular normal perception of the world and a normal sense of identity etc. Even though now I know from meditation that it’s all an illusion. But I did not want to keep pursuing that so I backed away.
You mean you've experienced ego death and perceived a glimpse of solipsism?

Ego death is a "complete loss of subjective self-identity".

I assure you I've gotten far 'beyond' that point.

The goal of meditation isn't ego death - it's the integration of it - the key is to have a healthy, integrated ego that knows its strengths and weaknesses - and can overcome all obstacles.

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Do any of you actually practice meditation? From the posts in here it looks like people tried some gimmicky app on a phone and think they've had some kind of revelation.

Also, speaking about "meditation" as some kind of monolith is nonsensical, hence why I was specific with what I practice earlier.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
No it’s not about ego death or about ego at all. It is an awareness that transcends ego. Ego drops away like all sense of identity and separateness drops away. And you become one with what you are perceiving.
Maybe you should've developed your critical reading skills instead of meditating? What you describedisego death. Or what others refer to asSamadhi. Why don't you google this yourself? You're too far up your own ass to actually discuss anything with.

If you exist - you're here for a reason. Yes, we are all one, but this whole life is the story ofyou. Every second is a joyous celebration. Embrace it and treasure it. You've only got this one shot.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Do any of you actually practice meditation? From the posts in here it looks like people tried some gimmicky app on a phone and think they've had some kind of revelation.

Also, speaking about "meditation" as some kind of monolith is nonsensical, hence why I was specific with what I practice earlier.
Me brah. I practice Vipassana mainly the way taught by Shinzen Young

I have always wanted to go to a retreat but never felt I was ready. Then I met a meditation teacher from Florida who regularly hosts them and invited me but COVID hit etc so haven't been able to
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