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Pros:

no chloride
lower maintenance
Lower energy consumption
It's actually a natural ecosystem

Cons:

Alienated from nature cucks might be scared of the frogs and fish living in it. If yore interested in learning more about them i bought the book from the guy i posted the video, has legit good information and lots of technical details. I learned everything i needed for my project from his book.


I'm building one at the end of the year, can't wait to start. Mine will be in the jungle so i hope snakes stay away
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Looks like a mosquito breeding ground.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Looks like a mosquito breeding ground.
Actually due to the oxigen levels in the water mosquitos won't lay their eggs there. If you keep proper oxygenation and intrudce some fish you'll be good to go. I visited one in the jungle in rain season and there weren't any mosquitos in sight
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Aesthetic/10

Also cheaper than a conventional pool since you don't have to pour concrete. Make a hole put a HDPE liner and you're good to go.
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Seems like a neat concept but I would never attempt this in South Florida
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze⏩
Seems like a neat concept but I would never attempt this in South Florida
Why not?

Snakes, gators?
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I wouldn't mind it, but I'd rather have a standard pool with poured concrete for walls and a floor. It's almost like a bigger version of a pond which is cool, but I have a pond and racoons/possums end up drowning in it all the time because they try to get the fish.
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The ones in the pictures looks nice, video one is murky as fuk and guaranteed to have a gator move in.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩



Aesthetic/10

Also cheaper than a conventional pool since you don't have to pour concrete. Make a hole put a HDPE liner and you're good to go.
Now these are nice.
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Yeah why not, I used to swim in ponds/rivers etc with frogs/fish/snakes etc.
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I wish I could do something like that but water moccasins are a thing where I live. They aren't like most snakes. They are extremely aggressive and will bite you for no reason. Rattlesnakes, copperheads and coral snakes mostly just want to be left alone but moccasins are mean as fuk. We have gators too but gators never bite people. The river where I live is absolutely infested with them and I've never heard of a person even getting bit by a gator
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I did some research on this a while back (things like this seem pretty cool to me) and I love the idea and aesthetics of it.

But one other con is that you need a lot more land/space as there's a certain percentage of the water area that's dedicated to the filter plants. Also there is still a bit of maintenance as you need to balance the plant and fish life so that you don't get a lot of biological waste and have algae blooms.

It is beautiful though
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seems like it would be hard to control, also you are swimming in fish poop ect

i mean a chlorinated pool is pretty well defined, you know what ph to keep it at you know how much chlorine to use ect.

a natural lake, river ect is self maintaining or the local gov will fuk with it. There is a lake near by that was man made like over 70 years ago but they are constantly spending millions on it because it moves from freshwater to saltwater and just has so many problems with muck and poor water quality, fish dying ect, because it wasnt natural before, so gov is trying to maintain it.

Seems like you would have to do SOMETHING with the "natural" pool or its just going to allergy bloom over and turn into a disgusting mess. It seems like it would be harder to maintain than a pool, because now youre trying to keep fish alive in it ect instead of just chlorinating the whole thing. If you over chlorinate no big deal, just wait or add more water. If you over correct your natural pool all the fish die out ect. Also a lot of people that have like outdoor gold fish ponds have problems with birds coming in and eating all their chit especially if its too small or not deep enough and the fish have nowhere to hide, they are sitting ducks.
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Originally Posted By Eggiesinabasket⏩
I did some research on this a while back (things like this seem pretty cool to me) and I love the idea and aesthetics of it.

But one other con is that you need a lot more land/space as there's a certain percentage of the water area that's dedicated to the filter plants. Also there is still a bit of maintenance as you need to balance the plant and fish life so that you don't get a lot of biological waste and have algae blooms.

It is beautiful though
This seems way high maintenance (relative to traditional pools).

IMO just go saltwater traditional and not worry about chlorine.
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Originally Posted By Eggiesinabasket⏩
I did some research on this a while back (things like this seem pretty cool to me) and I love the idea and aesthetics of it.

But one other con is that you need a lot more land/space as there's a certain percentage of the water area that's dedicated to the filter plants. Also there is still a bit of maintenance as you need to balance the plant and fish life so that you don't get a lot of biological waste and have algae blooms.

It is beautiful though
Yeah it has to be harder than a regular pool, trying to balance an entire ecosystem vs maintaining a semi sterile pool and just keep chlorine and pH levels.
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Pool or pond?

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Fuk the maintenance on one of those things. I already have too much chit to do as is.
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If you add flow/oxygenation it should basically be similar to a river.

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Originally Posted By Eggiesinabasket⏩
I did some research on this a while back (things like this seem pretty cool to me) and I love the idea and aesthetics of it.

But one other con is that you need a lot more land/space as there's a certain percentage of the water area that's dedicated to the filter plants. Also there is still a bit of maintenance as you need to balance the plant and fish life so that you don't get a lot of biological waste and have algae blooms.

It is beautiful though
Yes that's true you need the same area for the biofilters as the swimming area so in total you need a lot more space. That's a con i forgot to put.
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
I'll take a cenote


lol I'm actually designing a house over there and that's exactly the kind of plant life in want to recreate. Cenotes are amazing . This is how i want that one to look in terms of vegetation


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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
I wish I could do something like that but water moccasins are a thing where I live. They aren't like most snakes. They are extremely aggressive and will bite you for no reason. Rattlesnakes, copperheads and coral snakes mostly just want to be left alone but moccasins are mean as fuk. We have gators too but gators never bite people. The river where I live is absolutely infested with them and I've never heard of a person even getting bit by a gator
You can raise the wole level of the pool by about 1 meter to avoid snakes or other critters swiming in. Plus depending on how "hard" the ground is on your location you can save big money on excavation costs. I mean something like this but with plants:



No snake is going to climb that
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
seems like it would be hard to control, also you are swimming in fish poop ect

i mean a chlorinated pool is pretty well defined, you know what ph to keep it at you know how much chlorine to use ect.

a natural lake, river ect is self maintaining or the local gov will fuk with it. There is a lake near by that was man made like over 70 years ago but they are constantly spending millions on it because it moves from freshwater to saltwater and just has so many problems with muck and poor water quality, fish dying ect, because it wasnt natural before, so gov is trying to maintain it.

Seems like you would have to do SOMETHING with the "natural" pool or its just going to allergy bloom over and turn into a disgusting mess. It seems like it would be harder to maintain than a pool, because now youre trying to keep fish alive in it ect instead of just chlorinating the whole thing. If you over chlorinate no big deal, just wait or add more water. If you over correct your natural pool all the fish die out ect. Also a lot of people that have like outdoor gold fish ponds have problems with birds coming in and eating all their chit especially if its too small or not deep enough and the fish have nowhere to hide, they are sitting ducks.
The whole point of the biopool ecosystem is to make it self-regulatory so you don't have to worry about maintenance. I've done lots of regular pools in tropical places and they're a pain in the ass since they have bo constantly fighighting against the enviroment. In a properly designed and oxygenated biopool you don't have to worry about that

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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Why not?

Snakes, gators?
Mainly snakes, as TBO stated below. Also I can't imagine the relentless heat and humidity would be good for it
Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
I wish I could do something like that but water moccasins are a thing where I live. They aren't like most snakes. They are extremely aggressive and will bite you for no reason. Rattlesnakes, copperheads and coral snakes mostly just want to be left alone but moccasins are mean as fuk. We have gators too but gators never bite people. The river where I live is absolutely infested with them and I've never heard of a person even getting bit by a gator
Moccasins and pygmy rattlesnakes are the phucking worst. Both are unnecessarily aggressive
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Originally Posted By jstn0127⏩
Pool or pond?

pick one
A biopool is pretty much a pond, plant life compete for nutrients against algae so the water is kept clean. Fish and frogs eat small insects that might try to live there and compressors similar to the ones found in a fish tank produce bubbles that make water circulate and keep it properly oxygenated
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze⏩
Mainly snakes, as TBO stated below. Also I can't imagine the relentless heat and humidity would be good for it



Moccasins and pygmy rattlesnakes are the phucking worst. Both are unnecessarily aggressive
Cenotes are found in extremely hot an humid water. They're pretty much natural biopools and they seem to do ok with the climate




And you can always raise the whole level of the thing a meter or so above ground so critter can't climb



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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
You can raise the wole level of the pool by about 1 meter to avoid snakes or other critters swiming in. Plus depending on how "hard" the ground is on your location you can save big money on excavation costs. I mean something like this but with plants:



No snake is going to climb that
Just Youtube "snake climbs wall" if you think that
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Looks a bit cold. Plus insects :/.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
This seems way high maintenance (relative to traditional pools).

IMO just go saltwater traditional and not worry about chlorine.
Yeah, I like the idea of it and on the right land it probably would be awesome, honestly, to have a natural pool.
For the space (and my wife, lol) I had to go traditional, but with a salt water generator I can keep our chlorine around 3 ppm, which isn't bad at all, and the water is soft and somewhat silky.
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