lmao.

https://breakingmuscle.com/fitness/t...%20a%20barbell.


-The majority of overhead pressing exercises requiring the greatest stability (standing and/or with dumbbells) demonstrated greater neuromuscular activity in the deltoid muscles as compared to exercises performed seated and/or with a barbell.
-The standing barbell press activates the biceps and triceps brachii to a greater extent than the seated barbell press and either the seated or standing dumbbell press.



https://fitnessvolt.com/21361/standi...verhead-press/

What do all of these numbers mean for you and I who are mostly concerned with building muscle and strength? It means that any form of standing press requires more stability which means that it will result in a lower 1RM, BUT the exercises that required the greatest amount of stability, meaning the standing barbell or dumbbell overhead press, required greater neuromuscular activity in the deltoids as well as the biceps and triceps brachii than did the seated version of both of the lifts.

This is somewhat of a surprise to me, but the clear winner as far as building muscle is concerned is both the standing barbell and dumbbell overhead press. It always made sense to me that when seated our core would have to do less work and therefore the shoulders would be able to do more, but this apparently is not the case.

If a twink has a really strong bench, chances are he can OHP a good amount

Yeah, but this statement: "He strict presses (no leg drive) 264lb at 170lb bw as well"

Weigh 30 pounds more, he can press 30 pounds more...Asian genetics of peace

Not a dig at you at all, but:
Neuromuscular activity as far as I know doesn't mean more hypertrophy tho. Taking giant chit probably results in a bunch of neuromuscular activity, that doesn't mean you're going to grow muscle from it

Does standing OHP allow greater mechanical tension in the delts more bone to bone pull? Very very unlikely. Science is good, but using EMG as a tool to gauge exercises for hypertrophy is an extremely flawed concept

He's definitely an anomaly even among professional weightlifters.

But generally speaking, weightlifters are deceivingly strong at overhead press movements.

Check out this vid at 6:03

The dude barely looks like he lifts, just walks up to the bar with no warm-up, and easily puts 200lb+ over his head.

fair enough. I'm not sure if it does or not. Assuming one is going close to failure on each set, I would expect the muscle growth to be very similar.

The only issue I see there is what the weak link is when you're looking at failure? Is it purely the delt that's the weak link, or a combination of the stuff underneath it working to create a stable platform to push off/staying in position? Can't fire a cannon from a cannoe.

I think what you’re both dealing with is a difference in programming.

There’s something to be said for a bodybuilding routine where you just want to work your delts. Seated or even a hammer machine will be overall less taxing on the body and overall more stress squarely on the shoulder because you can use more weight. You’re not trying to wear out your whole body because tomorrow you plan to train your back, let’s say.

There’s also something to be said for using a standing strict press or even a push press in a power routine where you are trying to generate full body power. It may be more taxing, but you’re probably doing fewer reps anyway. And you’re working your posterior chain at the same time. A bodybuilder doesn’t need to do that because he has a whole day dedicated for doing low back and hamstring exercises probably.

There’s nothing wrong with either way.

That’s why standing OHP is the goat and only way to do it.

Why would you sit while doing any form of OHP, be it with dumbbells or a bar, unless you have an injury that prevents you from standing?

I used to sit in my first year or two, but found out that I felt like a person without legs

Why would you sit while doing any form of OHP, be it with dumbbells or a bar, unless you have an injury that prevents you from standing?

I used to sit in my first year or two, but found out that I felt like a person without legs

Why would you sit while doing any form of OHP, be it with dumbbells or a bar, unless you have an injury that prevents you from standing?

I used to sit in my first year or two, but found out that I felt like a person without legs

It was explained pretty well itt already

Read post 62 and 69. For the same reason there's a back pad on a pec dec. Because it makes the exercise better

Read post 62 and 69. For the same reason there's a back pad on a pec dec. Because it makes the exercise better

lol fukking idiot. too weak to do it standing so you turn it into a high incline press

Why use a pec dec when you can do cable flyes though, way more flexible, involves a bit of core, and better range of motion thus tearing the muscle fibers to an even greater extent

Because seated cable flys exist

I've done them both standing and seated. Could do more seated, but it wasn't a ton more. Some standing vids below.

Strong. How much can you 1RM without a belt do you recon?

Disagree, I know a dude with 15" soft fatceps who can pull 600

deads are the one where I often wonder how does that even work

deadlift is 99% leverages. the more upright your body is naturally, the easier the pull

I’ve seen twinks pulling 700-800lbs on youtube. not till 1000lbs+ that they fall out

deadlift is 99% leverages. the more upright your body is naturally, the easier the pull

I’ve seen twinks pulling 700-800lbs on youtube. not till 1000lbs+ that they fall out