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post 1619039461 10-11-2020, 06:09 AM
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you could never become an f1 driver cause you weren't born rich. you could never become a pro athlete because of the time/opportunity costs risk that you don't go pro

no time to become a full-time musician, fishing for marlin/yellow fin, or Boxer, etc.


you have to choose from safe careers such as STEM, Business related fields, Nursing, Trades; and work for the next 50 years 40-60 hrs a week


wtfff
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post 1619039931 10-11-2020, 06:20 AM
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you dont have to choose those careers at all. just more middle class lies
post 1619040031 10-11-2020, 06:23 AM
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No free will in this life, boyo.

You don't get to choose your looks, intelligence, parents, socioeconomic setting.....pretty much nothing.

And whatever success you do achieve is based on causal effects you didn't have any control over either.

Always have to respect those that were forced to walk the harder path though.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

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post 1619040141 10-11-2020, 06:26 AM
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You don't need rich parents, that's a myth. Most millionaires are self made. And you can excel in any field to get rich and escape 9 to 5.
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post 1619040231 10-11-2020, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
No free will in this life, boyo.

You don't get to choose your looks, intelligence, parents, socioeconomic setting.....pretty much nothing.

And whatever success you do achieve is based on causal effects you didn't have any control over either.

Always have to respect those that were forced to walk the harder path though.
I disagree. How did you come to this conclusion of no free will?
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post 1619040311 10-11-2020, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
I disagree. How did you come to this conclusion of no free will?
Most red-pilled book I have ever read.

Took a lot of energy to get through.

"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1619040361 10-11-2020, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
I disagree. How did you come to this conclusion of no free will?
you think these kids eating dirt have the opportunity to become rich? lol

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post 1619040451 10-11-2020, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Most red-pilled book I have ever read.

Took a lot of energy to get through.

I won't read a book but it's probably based on neuroscientific hypothesis. If so, it's nonsense, philosophically.
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post 1619040531 10-11-2020, 06:34 AM
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determinism, simulation theory - its over for you boyo ^
post 1619040541 10-11-2020, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted By wave_length
I won't read a book but it's probably based on neuroscientific hypothesis. If so, it's nonsense, philosophically.
Yea, there is no freewill lmao.

There are no books on the open market that even support the freewill argument anymore, because there is no argument that can be made for freewill.

You're just uncomfortable with the idea. I was at one time.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1619040641 10-11-2020, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Yea, there is no freewill lmao.

There are no books on the open market that even support the freewill argument anymore, because there is no argument that can be made for freewill.

You're just uncomfortable with the idea. I was at one time.
So you’re saying op didn’t purposely choose to be a ******* interesting
post 1619040681 10-11-2020, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted By socalivin
So you’re saying op didn’t purposely choose to be a ******* interesting
Absolutely.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1619040851 10-11-2020, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
There is no free will, but there is...

Spoiler!
lmao.

On r/c, dude.

This gif is a classic.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

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post 1619040861 10-11-2020, 06:45 AM
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You can do whatever you want in this life provided you are willing to accept the consequences of your choices. What you are whining for are options without consequences or costs.

You'll find that the only way to facilitate that is to foist the consequences/costs onto other people. Essentially making other people your slave, working to provide you with all the necessities while you pursue your whims. No thanks.
"I yam what I yam" - Popeye the sailor
post 1619041411 10-11-2020, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
If you choose to spend your time chitposting on the misc, that's on you.
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Originally Posted By wave_length
I won't read a book butit's probably based on neuroscientific hypothesis. If so, it's nonsense, philosophically.



Aside from that, I believe people have "will", and their belief in how much they enjoy acting it out.

A lot of philosophy gets into weird arguments on it, probably because most definitions are a contradiction.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
you could never become an f1 driver cause you weren't born rich. you could never become a pro athlete because of the time/opportunity costs risk that you don't go pro

no time to become a full-time musician, fishing for marlin/yellow fin, or Boxer, etc.


you have to choose from safe careers such as STEM, Business related fields, Nursing, Trades; and work for the next 50 years 40-60 hrs a week


wtfff
yeah i think a lot of pro athletes are people that grew up poor because of the opportunity cost factor. why focus all your time, effort ect on something that you still have such a low chance of ever achieving if you have a more "sure thing" conventional career ahead of you. if they were broke but had extreme athletic potential then they have nothing to lose really in trying
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
yeah i think a lot of pro athletes are people that grew up poor because of the opportunity cost factor. why focus all your time, effort ect on something that you still have such a low chance of ever achieving if you have a more "sure thing" conventional career ahead of you. if they were broke but had extreme athletic potential then they have nothing to lose really in trying
true. you described the Gronkowski brothers

good genetics and money for the pursuit of athletics

4 in NFL 1 in MLB

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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
you think these kids eating dirt have the opportunity to become rich? lol
Living in poverty is not a good starting point. But if you're living in a rich, western country, you do not need to inherit to become rich.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Yea, there is no freewill lmao.

There are no books on the open market that even support the freewill argument anymore, because there is no argument that can be made for freewill.

You're just uncomfortable with the idea. I was at one time.
That's ridiculous, most books on the topic don't even take into consider that free will might not exist.
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Originally Posted By ThenGuru
Aside from that, I believe people have "will", and their belief in how much they enjoy acting it out.

A lot of philosophy gets into weird arguments on it, probably because most definitions are a contradiction.
The question is whether free will and especially the proof of its existence is a topic of neuroscience or philosophy. It is the latter.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I'm not the one complaining about how I don't have time to do anything I want, now am I?
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Bruh you just posted 54 times in like 6 hours
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Why do people complain about 9-5 srs

It's 40 hours of work in a 168 hour week.

In the right field you're clearing 6 figures a year.

With covid you're working from home with nothing to stop you from drinking at work. In the right field you can drink in the office.
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lol @ 40.

I'd be lucky to have a week of 50 hours only.
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Originally Posted By Misc420Doctor
Why do people complain about 9-5 srs

It's 40 hours of work in a 168 hour week.
This

Plenty of time to hone your skills and do something with your life. Stop smoking so much pole and get off your knees OP
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Yea, there is no freewill lmao.

There are no books on the open market that even support the freewill argument anymore, because there is no argument that can be made for freewill.

You're just uncomfortable with the idea. I was at one time.
Yea but i think its different than most people think. And im sure you know more, im just addressing this specific statement

But for instance, you could be presented with so many choices it gives the illusion of free will. Similar to the subconscious thinking one way, so when you encounter something one way you already think about it in a certain pattern, but that pattern can still be changed

If it bothers you just go back to the way things were before you encountered the information lol
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Feels.

I kind of wanted to be a lawyer, because my writing skills are a lot better than my math skills, but I ended up doing engineering cause my parents live at the poverty line and $180K of non-dischargeable student loans was too big of a gamble to take without having dat rich family backstop. Srs, the outcomes for lawyers who don't graduate top of their class get fukking grim. My grad degree in engineering came for like a tenth of the cost of a law degree.

Same thing with medicine (didn't really want to do that though.) My mom has two shattered legs from a 60 MPH head-on car crash (other driver was committing suicide) (absolute dick move) (there but for the grace of God go I) and always bitches at me, "why didn't you go into medicine?" "why can't you tell me what's wrong with my legs?" and I'm like, it would have been too much risk to take out a quarter-million of debt on my own, and I know you couldn't help with any of it cause y'all are poor.

If I was born into a rich family, I'd probably be finishing law school right now, srs.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
What's stopping you from going to law school right now?
Opportunity cost.

Between base and stock options, I'll be making about $350K over the next three years. If I go to law school, I lose all of that and assume another $180K in debt. Basically, becoming a lawyer at this point would cost me a half-million dollars.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
What's stopping you from going to law school right now?
Payoff just isn't there for law grads anymore.

https://money.cnn.com/2014/07/15/pf/...wyer-salaries/

Who's going to pay 200k for law school, only to get out making 60k? lol.

That field of work has become so diluted over time it's become a joke.
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Just be born into money

Or do it like 99% of the “rich people” out there and inherit wealth/assets through generational transfer, then flex on everyone else making them think you’re self made
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