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Black privilege is a real epidemic (srs thread)
Read the whole post.
Blacks are underprivileged as a race OVERALL. But when we try to boost blacks up as a society its done in the wrong way.
The most underprivileged blacks live in the inner cities or in the projects, in community housing. their parents are extremely poor and/or drug addicts. Their community infrastructure is sht, they have no positive role models etc. This is where we need to funnel our resources and help.
The way the Americas are trying to address the problem is by boosting blacks overall. For example, a black student trying to get into med school can be significantly less qualified than an Asian or white counterpart and still get in. This is the wrong approach.
If that black student fails to get into med school, hell still land softly and probably end in a STEM career making a good living and having good general life prospects.
The way the current system is set up, the already successful blacks become even more successful and the poor underprivileged blacks stay in the gutter.
Essentially all the 'help' we are providing blacks is going to the already successful blacks instead of going to the portion of blacks whoo actually need assistance.
Stop affirmative action. We dont need more black doctors or black lawyers or black actors or black musicians. We need to devote those resources to help the real victims.
A 3.4 GPA science undergrad black doesn't need to become a doctoor
A 3.4 GPA polisci undergrad black doesn't need to become a biglaw lawyer
A successful black actor doesn't need to start in his 7th movie
etc
Essentially there are some super overprivileged blacks who benefit and the truly underprivileged blacks never get the help that they actually need. Instead of making already successful black people even more successful, we need to funnel our resources to the black people who right now have no chance.
Politics example. We shouldn't have affirmative actioned Beijing Barry to president. He was already extremely successful as a Harvard grad/member of Congress. These types of black people dont need help. They shouldn't need a boost since they're already successful. Instead the better qualified man should've got the job, and using the extra resources a better functioning country generates you can then help your underprivileged members of society
Entertainment example: SJW's want a black James Bond. Alot of people want Idris Elba for the role. Elba is already an insanely successful and rich actor and DJ as well (fun fact I saw him at EDC). Hes already successful beyond his wildest dreams yet its people like this benefiting from affirmative action in the name of an underprivileged 'oppressed' race while Tyrone (the real victim) on the corners of Baltimore is slinging crack to get out of the projects.
Ultimately the 'black elites' benefit from this whole social justice nonsense. And the true black victims suffer in silence.
tldr: blacks as a whole underprivileged. black elites are experiencing black privilege while the real underprivileged blacks suffer in silence
Blacks are underprivileged as a race OVERALL. But when we try to boost blacks up as a society its done in the wrong way.
The most underprivileged blacks live in the inner cities or in the projects, in community housing. their parents are extremely poor and/or drug addicts. Their community infrastructure is sht, they have no positive role models etc. This is where we need to funnel our resources and help.
The way the Americas are trying to address the problem is by boosting blacks overall. For example, a black student trying to get into med school can be significantly less qualified than an Asian or white counterpart and still get in. This is the wrong approach.
If that black student fails to get into med school, hell still land softly and probably end in a STEM career making a good living and having good general life prospects.
The way the current system is set up, the already successful blacks become even more successful and the poor underprivileged blacks stay in the gutter.
Essentially all the 'help' we are providing blacks is going to the already successful blacks instead of going to the portion of blacks whoo actually need assistance.
Stop affirmative action. We dont need more black doctors or black lawyers or black actors or black musicians. We need to devote those resources to help the real victims.
A 3.4 GPA science undergrad black doesn't need to become a doctoor
A 3.4 GPA polisci undergrad black doesn't need to become a biglaw lawyer
A successful black actor doesn't need to start in his 7th movie
etc
Essentially there are some super overprivileged blacks who benefit and the truly underprivileged blacks never get the help that they actually need. Instead of making already successful black people even more successful, we need to funnel our resources to the black people who right now have no chance.
Politics example. We shouldn't have affirmative actioned Beijing Barry to president. He was already extremely successful as a Harvard grad/member of Congress. These types of black people dont need help. They shouldn't need a boost since they're already successful. Instead the better qualified man should've got the job, and using the extra resources a better functioning country generates you can then help your underprivileged members of society
Entertainment example: SJW's want a black James Bond. Alot of people want Idris Elba for the role. Elba is already an insanely successful and rich actor and DJ as well (fun fact I saw him at EDC). Hes already successful beyond his wildest dreams yet its people like this benefiting from affirmative action in the name of an underprivileged 'oppressed' race while Tyrone (the real victim) on the corners of Baltimore is slinging crack to get out of the projects.
Ultimately the 'black elites' benefit from this whole social justice nonsense. And the true black victims suffer in silence.
tldr: blacks as a whole underprivileged. black elites are experiencing black privilege while the real underprivileged blacks suffer in silence
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Black privilege doesn't exist. It's liberal privilege. Find a black conservative and see how they are treated by the left if you want to know what real racism looks like.
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
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Came into this thread expecting something completely different. This is actually a well reasoned argument and I've never really thought of it this way.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Black privilege doesn't exist. It's liberal privilege. Find a black conservative and see how they are treated by the left if you want to know what real racism looks like.
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Liberal privilege is also definitely a thing. But heres a very specific example of black privilege that illustrates my point.Black privilege doesn't exist. It's liberal privilege. Find a black conservative and see how they are treated by the left if you want to know what real racism looks like.
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
Entertainment example: SJW's want a black James Bond. Alot of people want Idris Elba for the role. Elba is already an insanely successful and rich actor and DJ as well (fun fact I saw him at EDC). Hes already successful beyond his wildest dreams yet its people like this benefiting from affirmative action in the name of an underprivileged 'oppressed' race while Tyrone (the real victim) on the corners of Baltimore is slinging crack to get out of the projects.
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As long as the whites(American'ts) are below Asians, Blacks, and Browns, its a good day.
Its particularly the American'ts and the Brits that are the problem. They are trained from birth to "conquer" other peoples land and resources.
These are the people who needs a fkn foot on their neck. These folks need to be living in poverty, just like what you see in Africa.
Thanks to these *******s, they are the first to dropped not one but two nukes and started a nuclear arms race, endangering the world. Thats just one of MANY sins.
Its particularly the American'ts and the Brits that are the problem. They are trained from birth to "conquer" other peoples land and resources.
These are the people who needs a fkn foot on their neck. These folks need to be living in poverty, just like what you see in Africa.
Thanks to these *******s, they are the first to dropped not one but two nukes and started a nuclear arms race, endangering the world. Thats just one of MANY sins.
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The answer to racial problems are not racial solutions OP, I think your post is kind of trying to say that in a roundabout way.
America should drop it's obsession with oppression and internal strife and get back to innovation and trailblazing or y'all better pepper dem anguses for a long night at Chang's house ded srs.
America should drop it's obsession with oppression and internal strife and get back to innovation and trailblazing or y'all better pepper dem anguses for a long night at Chang's house ded srs.
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This is actually true when you think about it.
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if you aren't one of these, woke liberals dgaf who you are and what your struggles are. just stfu and cope.
natives
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if you aren't one of these, woke liberals dgaf who you are and what your struggles are. just stfu and cope.
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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
Blacks underprivileged as a race.Join date: 2020
Cliffs or negs, your choice
Cliffs or negs, your choice
But blacks can be broken down into two rough categories.
Black elites and extremely poor poverty blacks.
Black elites are the ones benefiting from the social justice movement, while the real victims (like a gangbanger from Baltimore slinging crack) suffers in silence.
Essentially there is X amount of 'help' (affirmative action mainly) we as a society are providing Blacks as a whole. Black elites are taking 99% of the benefits and the truly underprivileged blacks aren't receiving any. Already successful Blacks who dont need help are getting their careers launched into the stratosphere in the name of helping poor Trayshawn with a heroin addict mother living in the projects.
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I see your valid points here but I believe in individual accountability, we shouldn't be going out of our way to pour money into any race, if any individual od any minority group wants to sign up at community college they can, I'm white and I graduated high school with a 1.4 gpa, finished community college and now halfway done with junior year of cs. It's on the individual to make change stop throwing pitty parties
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Lotta miscers in this thread who obviously don't have any black friends irl. Blacks can't be broken down into just famous elite privileged or poor ghetto disadvantaged. I really have no idea what the point of this thread is.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
The strategy was to establish the victim hierarchy in the first place, and then mentally ill leftist swoop in and place themselves at the bottom(top) of the victim hierarchy.Black privilege doesn't exist. It's liberal privilege. Find a black conservative and see how they are treated by the left if you want to know what real racism looks like.
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
White leftists are allowed to beat them up/stab them and no one will care.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-con...st-report-says
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Originally Posted By 5tfihsmgidarap⏩
Watch The Wire. It will change your mind about individual accountability. I 100% believe that alot of poor blacks are completely set up to fail by the environment they are BORN into. If youre born extremely poor, no father, moms a crack addict. all your brothers are gangbangers, you knock a girl up by 14 you really have no shot at being successful.I see your valid points here but I believe in individual accountability, we shouldn't be going out of our way to pour money into any race, if any individual od any minority group wants to sign up at community college they can, I'm white and I graduated high school with a 1.4 gpa, finished community college and now halfway done with junior year of cs. It's on the individual to make change stop throwing pitty parties
But I also think affirmative action should be completely abolished. AA is mainly about optics - again every thing wrong in society can be traced back to these subhuman human trash politicians. And it is completely failing and creating a class of black elites that are hyperprivileged.
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Originally Posted By PerfectFormForever⏩
Its a crude explanation to make a point. The bottom line is the real underprivileged blacks aren't getting any help while already successful blacks are achieving success they haven't earned.Lotta miscers in this thread who obviously don't have any black friends irl. Blacks can't be broken down into just famous elite privileged or poor ghetto disadvantaged. I really have no idea what the point of this thread is.
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[QUOTE=AustinMathews34;1621301691If youre born extremely poor, no father, moms a crack addict. all your brothers are gangbangers, you knock a girl up by 14 you really have no shot at being successful.
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Who incentivized all of this? Oh right the government. and now the government is telling me I need to give up my rights to fix the 'system'
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Who incentivized all of this? Oh right the government. and now the government is telling me I need to give up my rights to fix the 'system'
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Nah doesn't make sense. Elba is there for his talent and the hard work he's had to put in to get there.Liberal privilege is also definitely a thing. But heres a very specific example of black privilege that illustrates my point.
Entertainment example: SJW's want a black James Bond. Alot of people want Idris Elba for the role. Elba is already an insanely successful and rich actor and DJ as well (fun fact I saw him at EDC). Hes already successful beyond his wildest dreams yet its people like this benefiting from affirmative action in the name of an underprivileged 'oppressed' race while Tyrone (the real victim) on the corners of Baltimore is slinging crack to get out of the projects.
Entertainment example: SJW's want a black James Bond. Alot of people want Idris Elba for the role. Elba is already an insanely successful and rich actor and DJ as well (fun fact I saw him at EDC). Hes already successful beyond his wildest dreams yet its people like this benefiting from affirmative action in the name of an underprivileged 'oppressed' race while Tyrone (the real victim) on the corners of Baltimore is slinging crack to get out of the projects.
Nothing like Tyrone slanging on the street so he can go buy more bling, drank, and drugs.
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I'm divided on this issue OP. For starters, you make a very valid argument, that I partly agree with. However, like everything, there is some grey area.
I'm currently in the application process for law schools, and I've already received offers from a few schools that are way more generous than my GPA/LSAT score would normally provide. For reference, I had a 2.75 GPA in college, and scored a 161 on my LSAT. I just received a full ride scholarship to my dream school - even though the candidates that typically get full ride scholarships have a 3.6 GPA and 167 LSAT. Basically, the reason why I got a full ride is because I'm black.
On one hand, I'm extremely grateful and will not squander this opportunity. I am not one of the "elite" blacks that you reference. I grew up lower income, and through my parents hard work, we got to the middle class, but that's far from elite. Combined, my parents make 60k/a year, and had 4 children. Although I grew up in a middle class area, and had a Playstation, it was far from a lavish childhood.
On the other hand, I recognize that it's not fair to applicants that have the exact same statistics as me, and with similar upbringings.
I do agree that there should be more equal representation, but I don't think forcing it through admissions is the right answer. I agree with OP in that I think raising the entire community up together would be more beneficial for lower-income people, regardless of race.
I'm currently in the application process for law schools, and I've already received offers from a few schools that are way more generous than my GPA/LSAT score would normally provide. For reference, I had a 2.75 GPA in college, and scored a 161 on my LSAT. I just received a full ride scholarship to my dream school - even though the candidates that typically get full ride scholarships have a 3.6 GPA and 167 LSAT. Basically, the reason why I got a full ride is because I'm black.
On one hand, I'm extremely grateful and will not squander this opportunity. I am not one of the "elite" blacks that you reference. I grew up lower income, and through my parents hard work, we got to the middle class, but that's far from elite. Combined, my parents make 60k/a year, and had 4 children. Although I grew up in a middle class area, and had a Playstation, it was far from a lavish childhood.
On the other hand, I recognize that it's not fair to applicants that have the exact same statistics as me, and with similar upbringings.
I do agree that there should be more equal representation, but I don't think forcing it through admissions is the right answer. I agree with OP in that I think raising the entire community up together would be more beneficial for lower-income people, regardless of race.
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Its not about his talent. James Bond is a white man. Always has been. Thats who he is.Nah doesn't make sense. Elba is there for his talent and the hard work he's had to put in to get there.
Nothing like Tyrone slanging on the street so he can go buy more bling, drank, and drugs.
Nothing like Tyrone slanging on the street so he can go buy more bling, drank, and drugs.
He is being AA'd into a franchise that would pay him hundreds of millions of dollars. While there are millions of blacks living in extreme poverty with no shot at a good life. Meanwhile liberals pat themselves on their back for a step towards 'equality'.
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Brah its nov 3rd. Kamala Harris might realistically be affirmative actioned into VP/president. would you say she earned it? come on man. its because of the color of her skin.Blah blah blah, so your saying these successful black people haven't earned it? straight out of your ass lol srs.
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Originally Posted By prbrah⏩
Congrats and hope you succeed in your law career sincerely. This post is mainly a criticism on how we try to address privilege as a society. I have many black friends and wish them all great success srs. The true abusers of the system right now are people like Kamala Harris.I'm divided on this issue OP. For starters, you make a very valid argument, that I partly agree with. However, like everything, there is some grey area.
I'm currently in the application process for law schools, and I've already received offers from a few schools that are way more generous than my GPA/LSAT score would normally provide. For reference, I had a 2.75 GPA in college, and scored a 161 on my LSAT. I just received a full ride scholarship to my dream school - even though the candidates that typically get full ride scholarships have a 3.6 GPA and 167 LSAT. Basically, the reason why I got a full ride is because I'm black.
On one hand, I'm extremely grateful and will not squander this opportunity. I am not one of the "elite" blacks that you reference. I grew up lower income, and through my parents hard work, we got to the middle class, but that's far from elite. Combined, my parents make 60k/a year, and had 4 children. Although I grew up in a middle class area, and had a Playstation, it was far from a lavish childhood.
On the other hand, I recognize that it's not fair to applicants that have the exact same statistics as me, and with similar upbringings.
I do agree that there should be more equal representation, but I don't think forcing it through admissions is the right answer. I agree with OP in that I think raising the entire community up together would be more beneficial for lower-income people, regardless of race.
I'm currently in the application process for law schools, and I've already received offers from a few schools that are way more generous than my GPA/LSAT score would normally provide. For reference, I had a 2.75 GPA in college, and scored a 161 on my LSAT. I just received a full ride scholarship to my dream school - even though the candidates that typically get full ride scholarships have a 3.6 GPA and 167 LSAT. Basically, the reason why I got a full ride is because I'm black.
On one hand, I'm extremely grateful and will not squander this opportunity. I am not one of the "elite" blacks that you reference. I grew up lower income, and through my parents hard work, we got to the middle class, but that's far from elite. Combined, my parents make 60k/a year, and had 4 children. Although I grew up in a middle class area, and had a Playstation, it was far from a lavish childhood.
On the other hand, I recognize that it's not fair to applicants that have the exact same statistics as me, and with similar upbringings.
I do agree that there should be more equal representation, but I don't think forcing it through admissions is the right answer. I agree with OP in that I think raising the entire community up together would be more beneficial for lower-income people, regardless of race.
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Honestly i don't give AF about his color, didn't even know he was the new James Bond. It doesn't even fukn matter, as long as he is a good actor and can pull it off.Its not about his talent. James Bond is a white man. Always has been. Thats who he is.
He is being AA'd into a franchise that would pay him hundreds of millions of dollars. While there are millions of blacks living in extreme poverty with no shot at a good life. Meanwhile liberals pat themselves on their back for a step towards 'equality'.
He is being AA'd into a franchise that would pay him hundreds of millions of dollars. While there are millions of blacks living in extreme poverty with no shot at a good life. Meanwhile liberals pat themselves on their back for a step towards 'equality'.
The reasoning behind making James Bond black out of no where is bull**** though, i agree.
The bottom line is this:
Billions of tax payer dollars go to support the poor.
These billions don't make it were it needs to be because of political corruption and mis-management (FACT)
Black living in extreme poverty is by design by our corrupt overlords.
Black people not reliant on this hand out ****, and actually have goals are the ones who succeed. This is life.
Wake up.
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Hes not the new Bond actually but there was a huge media push for him to be it.Honestly i don't give AF about his color, didn't even know he was the new James Bond. It doesn't even fukn matter, as long as he is a good actor and can pull it off.
The reasoning behind making James Bond black out of no where is bull**** though, i agree.
The bottom line is this:
Billions of tax payer dollars go to support the poor.
These billions don't make it were it needs to be because of political corruption and mis-management (FACT)
Black living in extreme poverty is by design by our corrupt overlords.
Wake up.
The reasoning behind making James Bond black out of no where is bull**** though, i agree.
The bottom line is this:
Billions of tax payer dollars go to support the poor.
These billions don't make it were it needs to be because of political corruption and mis-management (FACT)
Black living in extreme poverty is by design by our corrupt overlords.
Wake up.
I just thought entertainment was a good example. Like do we need a black James Bond or black Charlies Angels or black Vic Secret models? No we need less black people living in the projects. We need less black people addicted to heroin. Not different coloured elites.
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Elba is one of the most famous and talented black actors. That's the reason he is chosen over Tyrone on the street. Period.Hes not the new Bond actually but there was a huge media push for him to be it.
I just thought entertainment was a good example. Like do we need a black James Bond or black Charlies Angels or black Vic Secret models? No we need less black people living in the projects. We need less black people addicted to heroin. Not different coloured elites.
I just thought entertainment was a good example. Like do we need a black James Bond or black Charlies Angels or black Vic Secret models? No we need less black people living in the projects. We need less black people addicted to heroin. Not different coloured elites.
No one is gonna see James Bond as Tyrone over Elba.
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Youre missing the pointElba is one of the most famous and talented black actors. That's the reason he is chosen over Tyrone on the street. Period.
No one is gonna see James Bond as Tyrone over Elba.
No one is gonna see James Bond as Tyrone over Elba.
Its an example of black elites benefiting from the suffering of the black poors. In a perfect world where every race earned the same amount of money, were convicted of the same amount of crimes; Bond would stay white.
They want to flip Bond black in the name of black suffering, in the name of equality, in the name of social justice, in the name of reparations, whatever/etc. The black plebs stay suffering while an extremely successful Black reaps the rewards of the black pleb class suffering.
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