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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
Not a fan of amps simsand working through a DAW but maybe my recording setup just sucks idk

Any suggestions on pedals? Overdrive? Treble Booster?
Even with a pedalboard-amp rig they have their place for recording.

That's something that has always been a massive PITA for me. You get a great sound in the room with an amp and then you stick an SM57 in front of the speaker and get a completely different sound. Then you try a condenser or ribbon mic further away and it sounds too dark or muddy. Combining both requires some experimenting to avoid phase issues. If you're lucky you'll eventually dial in a great sound with a little EQ, some channel strip plug-ins, etc. and lo and behold you might even prefer the recorded tone more than the one in the room but that difference going back and forth does your head in.

Or you never get to that stage because you're too busy dicking around with different speakers and entertaining thoughts of buying more expensive microphones, building an isolation cab, etc.

My solution was to use cab sim/IRs at the end of the tube/analog chain and hear the same sound all the time at any volume through studio monitors. I haven't changed cab or mic settings in 18 months. Also with IRs you can run your effects after them and that allows you to record them separately so you're not stuck with a boatload of delay that sounded great at 2am when you're three sheets to the wind but listening back to it in a mix it sounds like a mess.

Cliffs: all this stuff has its place.

As for pedals I like a good boost pedal into a single channel amp. Essentially more gain when I want it and less when I don't. I use a treble bleed on the guitar to tighten up the bottom end so having a boost gives me more options if say I like a tighter sound but need more gain or if I want a warmer sound with more gain I wind up the guitar volume and switch the boost off. Probably not the answer you wanted but that's the best I can do.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt⏩
Listening to Joe Satriani's 'Friends'. Ah sweet clarity. 80s legends always pull you through.

That melody from 0:50-1:10 is gold. I'll never understand why he didn't revisit it later in the track.

War, Rubina's Blue Sky Happiness, Tears in the Rain, and Why are my favorites.
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
good advice, I agree Dom.
Seriously though I've never used a Klon. I was tempted to try a Klone but I heard the charge pump doesn't play nice with Strymon pedals so I never went down that road. My favorite boost is the Metropoulos Supa Boost but it's so good it stays on so I run a second boost for more gain — RC Booster.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
good advice, I agree Dom.
I’ve been looking at a bunch of different overdrives. Are you guys talking about a genuine Klon or replicas?

I had my eye on this boutique overdrive for awhile. My amp is an Orange OR15 I have tons of gain available but the higher gain settings on the amp are very loose sounding as opposed to that focused American sound so I was looking for something to tighten the sound up.

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For what it’s worth I’ve probably never tried a good amp sim. My realm of experience with digital recording is mucking about inside GarageBand. But I already have a condenser mic and interface so I might as well just mic my amp and go to town

Also even though it’s switchable to 7-15 watts should I invest in an amp attenuator? I can’t turn up my Orange with any significant gain or distortion past 1-2 clicks on the master volume lol wayyyy to loud but I really wanna push the tubes
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
The original Klon Centaur is around $5K.
Try the Soul Food.
I like EHX but I want some variety lol
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I'd probably try an EQ pedal to tighten it up and shave off some mud. Or bite the bullet and get an amp with a tone you like.

This is my go to boost and first in the chain. Runs internally at 100V+.

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Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
I'd probably try an EQ pedal to tighten it up and shave off some mud. Or bite the bullet and get an amp with a tone you like.

This is my go to boost and first in the chain. Runs internally at 100V+.

I actually play a lot of Doom/Stoner Rock the Orange is perfect for me, but other metal I like to play the high gain sounds just aren’t focused enough. So I was hoping a good overdrive maybe even a distortion pedal might help.

EDIT: The Orange was my dream amp for awhile, it’s just really NOT ideal for stuff like Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads stuff

It’s more vintage voiced
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
again, a Friedman amp is your solution.
What was your favorite out of the ones you tried?
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
My favorite one of the all that I played was easily the BE-100. That amp had real amp in the room tones I wish the Axe-FX could create.
Also the best volume control ever, did not need any sort of attentuator. It was easy to achieve incredible tones at literal whisper volumes.
Back to my previous question should I get an amp attenuator? Lol
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I think amp attenuators rob tone despite what they're supposed to do. It won't be the same as gunning your Orange at high volume, but you will get some more saturated tones. The thing is though, you're trying to make up for tones that are likely just not in the wheelhouse of the Orange amp.
You might be able to get tighter tones via pedals and whatnot on your Orange but it isn't the same as authentic poweramp/preamp gain that's voiced for tight sounds.

Tbh though I see real tube amps as impractical at this point and amp modelers as the more prudent approach. But you've already gone in on pedals and chit so it's probably best for you to remain an amp-cel.
My friend that I jam with is kind of a traditionalist and always talks down when I tell him about the stuff I read on here and demos I watch of new stuff like amp profilers and recording. I’m not opposed to using any of that stuff myself and it might be more practical in home use and recording situations

But at this point I’m already heavily invested into the amps and pedal stuff
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Traditionalist are usually lazy thinkers who probably checked out a line 6 Pod back in 2002 and decided to apply that impression to all modeling units moving forward.
He also hates modeling amps but I think they’re quite useful lol
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I've went through 10 pages of the thread so far and I guess it might be safe to say metal and shred is the most popular here?

I still love shred. I started playing in the late 80s so I learned lots of that

The pandemic has given me a chance to renew my passion for the guitar and tho I don't like country music much at all, the guitar players are nasty.

I hate Brad Paisleys cheesey songs but he can play, as well as Johnny Holland, Junior Brown and Brent Mason. Ive been really getting into Jimmy Olanders from Diamond Rio lessons on YT, tho I don't think I've ever heard a DR song.

I'll post some of Jimmy lessons later on. He's a great teacher and it's relaxing just watching him

Here's a vid of Jimmy O giving a lesson. No embed skills yet
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
You might like Jimmy Bryant, I consider him one of the progenitors of that country-jazz-shred thing.



I've always found the Bash by the Dixie Dregs to be rather intimidating.

Beautiful. I've heard of Bryant but that's probably the first time I heard him.

Thanks

Jazz and country players follow the chord changes like no other.

I've always loved the Bash

Thanks for the reply
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Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
I've went through 10 pages of the thread so far and I guess it might be safe to say metal and shred is the most popular here?

I still love shred. I started playing in the late 80s so I learned lots of that

The pandemic has given me a chance to renew my passion for the guitar and tho I don't like country music much at all, the guitar players are nasty.
I love listening to all forms of rock and metal. But I also listen to most forms of guitar based music.

But when it comes to actually playing guitar I’m starting to fall into the psychedelic Stoner Rock stuff.

I like how that stuff sounds.
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Let me throw this one In your face, if you like shred

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...8C8AEA5F3EB966

About 3:05 is when the real fun starts
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I’ve been on a big 80s kick this week Playlists are on repeat at work and my chorus & compressor have been a staple when Playing.

Cot damn Steve Lukather had some great work. Rosanna solo is gold and everything in Hold the Line

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Went ahead and bought an Overdrive pedal.

I got a Mythos Mjolnir. It’s a Klon clone like your guys were suggesting and it seems to have a good sound. Can’t wait to try it out

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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Here's me fukking around on my Martin OM28 playing random chit.. I'm actually considering selling this thing.
What do y'all think of the tone? I'm not totally sold on it but at the same time it has certain qualities I like.

Django Reinhardt over here lol. It sounds good brah, why you selling it? I’ve been looking at a bunch of acoustics actually I hardly play acoustic but I need a new one. My old Fender that I’ve had since I was 10 is kinda dinky and doesn’t sound as resonant as I would prefer.

I just keep it for sentimental reasons
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