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post 1627355043 01-03-2021, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Isn't that a good thing? People were screened and treated.
Certainly not for someone discussing the dangers of COVID-19. Proper experimental design not once

ROFL
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Originally Posted By StyleGent
Certainly not for someone discussing the dangers of COVID-19. Proper experimental design not once

ROFL
You'd have them let people die? K. Never enter healthcare.
post 1627355273 01-03-2021, 10:48 AM
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Instead of being antiscientific philistines, why don't you scum try watching the videos? You might actually learn something.
post 1627355393 01-03-2021, 10:50 AM
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Why not just let the virus run its course and thin the herd?
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The biggest problem is that we are not all the same, but it's "discrimination" to treat anyone different so we are told to treat everyone the same. It's like HIV/AIDS, it's really a gay problem, and a problem for junkies, but that caused a stigma on gays so they say that it's EVERYONE's problem. So spread fear and panic on everyone else so that a group that should be scared, can feel better. After a while a lot of the gay community became blind to just how bad the problem was or should I say is.

So why tell working age people they can't hang out in groups and need to wear a mask, telling businesses they need to shut down.
post 1627355813 01-03-2021, 10:56 AM
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Lol at anyone that watches those videos from those paid off soros pawns.
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
Lol at anyone that watches those videos from those paid off soros pawns.
Love how you think nobel laureates, doctors, and pioneers in the field are "paid off soros pawns". I post videos from MIT and you idiots attack them. You are the epitome of the antiscientific rabble that plagues this nation. You should be grateful that this information is available to you, you fuking ants.
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Originally Posted By wincel
You'd have them let people die? K. Never enter healthcare.
You really are dense.

There were 90 people in the placebo arm who contracted COVID-19 (which strongly suggests selection bias given the low rate in COVID cases compared to the moderna study)

Calculating p(0) for 90 people having Corona taking the death rate posted by Johns Hopkins yields it unlikely to have 0 deaths (84% chance of having at least 1 death)

WINCEL hates science, ROFL
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Originally Posted By StyleGent
You really are dense.

There were 90 people in the placebo arm who contracted COVID-19 (which strongly suggests selection bias given the low rate in COVID cases compared to the moderna study)

Calculating p(0) for 90 people having Corona taking the death rate posted by Johns Hopkins yields it unlikely to have 0 deaths (84% chance of having at least 1 death)

WINCEL hates science, ROFL
The Moderna study had a smaller sample. They can infer things worked without letting things progress to death. You clearly do not understand medical research or medical ethics.

I suspect some of you are foreign agents who are trying to kill Americans.
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amazed at how mong the misc is

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Originally Posted By wincel
The Moderna study had a smaller sample. They can infer things worked without letting things progress to death. You clearly do not understand medical research or medical ethics.

I suspect some of you are foreign agents who are trying to kill Americans.
The Moderna study was smaller, yet had twice as many COVID related cases. The numbers do not reflect the population numbers. Your argument is weak, again taking the p(0) running an approximate distribution there is an 84% chance of someone dying from a cohort of 90 people.

WINCEL hates science ROFL
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I am flabbergasted at how low IQ miscers are...

Spoiler!
for interacting in a wincel thread
post 1627356943 01-03-2021, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem
Why not just let the virus run its course and thin the herd?
Plz respond OP.

I'm not an anti vaxxer, I'm neither right wing or left wing.

I want to know why is society blowing this low mortality rate virus way the fuk out of proportion, and why should I take it seriously, beyond basic precautions?
post 1627357023 01-03-2021, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By StyleGent
The Moderna study was smaller, yet had twice as many COVID related cases. The numbers do not reflect the population numbers. Your argument is weak, again taking the p(0) running an approximate distribution there is an 84% chance of someone dying from a cohort of 90 people.

WINCEL hates science ROFL
Again, they try not to let anyone die. They will treat people who are sick, put them on ventilators, etc. BTW there was a covid death in the Moderna study.
post 1627357103 01-03-2021, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem
Plz respond OP.

I'm not an anti vaxxer, I'm neither right wing or left wing.

I want to know why is society blowing this low mortality rate virus way the fuk out of proportion, and why should I take it seriously, beyond basic precautions?
Because it is an incredibly disruptive virus and letting that many people die rapidly would overwhelm our healthcare system resulting in many needless deaths to otherwise treatable conditions.
post 1627357243 01-03-2021, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Again, they try not to let anyone die. They will treat people who are sick, put them on ventilators, etc.
Not sure how that comes into play, at all into a probability model using the US death rate, in which people are treated for COVID-19.

WINCEL hates science ROFL

Are you going to present any supportive numbers or just use words
post 1627357373 01-03-2021, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By VinnyPazRules
Oh God not another one of these imbeciles who thinks every case is going to be exactly like his? I haven't encountered one lately I was hoping they all went away.
No not every case will require no medical intervention, the CDC says only 99.7% of them will require no medical intervention. So you got me there.
post 1627357413 01-03-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By StyleGent
Not sure how that comes into play, at all into a probability model using the US death rate, in which people are treated for COVID-19.

WINCEL hates science ROFL

Are you going to present any supportive numbers or just use words
Yeah you're dishonest because there was a covid death in the Moderna study. And if you don't see how being part of a medical study offers better quality of care if a detection occurs, then you are literally too dumb to talk to.
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Originally Posted By Paul
And a vaccine so safe you have to be persuaded by celebrities & former Prez’s to take it.

Clown would
vaccine reactions are worse than the virus itself for most people

clown world, you would be better off just inoculating yourself with the real virus and getting it over with.
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Originally Posted By wincel
If you watch the videos, you will see the range of treatment options. The vaccine doesn't have questionable side effects.
it does.


also frontline workers arent lining up in droves to get it. why is that? theyve gotten better at treating this thing in the hospitals. way better compared to march. stop pushing your POS vaccine
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post 1627357573 01-03-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92
it does.


also frontline workers arent lining up in droves to get it. why is that? theyve gotten better at treating this thing in the hospitals. way better compared to march. stop pushing your POS vaccine
Essential workers like my brother are being vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
vaccine reactions are worse than the virus itself for most people

clown world, you would be better off just inoculating yourself with the real virus and getting it over with.
not wincel. hes too fat, he would most def. die. thats why hes afraid.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
vaccine reactions are worse than the virus itself for most people

clown world, you would be better off just inoculating yourself with the real virus and getting it over with.
This is not true. Listen, all u fuking retards are welcome to take your false criticisms up with the study authors and experts I linked. I'm sure they care about your lay opinion. I posted these videos to inform those on the misc who can still be saved. Your anti-scientific rhetoric is disgusting and unworthy of further discussion.

This thread is meant to inform and you scum have suckered me into yet another debate. It is useless arguing with you.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Yeah you're dishonest because there was a covid death in the Moderna study. And if you don't see how being part of a medical study offers better quality of care if a detection occurs, then you are literally too dumb to talk to.
That goes against medical ethics, in fact, you have to give standard of care, or else that is just bad science.
I guess you didn't get the part where I said themoderna study was more reflective of the population. and have posted about it.

WINCEL hates science ROFL

tell me what was the p less than equal to (1) in a cohort of 200 with COVID, I will wait til you hash it out.
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Originally Posted By wincel
This is not true. Listen, all u fuking retards are welcome to take your false criticisms up with the study authors and experts I linked. I'm sure they care about your lay opinion. I posted these videos to inform those on the misc who can still be saved. Your anti-scientific rhetoric is disgusting and unworthy of further discussion.

This thread is meant to inform and you scum have suckered me into yet another debate. It is useless arguing with you.
lmao at this libtard arguing that Operation Warp Speed was a great success and the Drumf FDA approved vaccine is amazing.

lmao
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wincel getting massacred in his own thread I hope he gets another mental breakdown and a mod finishes him off once and for all.
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Originally Posted By StyleGent
That goes against medical ethics, in fact, you have to give standard of care, or else that is just bad science.
I guess you didn't get the part where I said themoderna study was more reflective of the population. and have posted about it.

WINCEL hates science ROFL

tell me what was the p less than equal to (1) in a cohort of 200 with COVID, I will wait til you hash it out.
You are naively taking a population death rate and then attempting to predict an expected death count without accounting for variance, obtaining results different from what you observed and then crying. You were also completely wrong about the number of deaths. I don't have the patience to sit here and teach biostatistics to you. If you think an error was made, publish your correction. Best of luck and fist yourself.
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Originally Posted By messomi
wincel getting massacred in his own thread I hope he gets another mental breakdown and a mod finishes him off once and for all.
Operation Warp Speed was a great success. when will you Drumpfers learn to appreciate it
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Originally Posted By wincel
You are naively taking a population death rate and then attempting to predict an expected death count without accounting for variance, obtaining results different from what you observed and then crying. You were also completely wrong about the number of deaths. I don't have the patience to sit here and teach biostatistics to you. If you think an error was made, publish your correction. Best of luck and fist yourself.
lmao at this tard. total deaths are the same for 2020. they test dead bodies from heart attacks and cancer for covid and if it was positive call it a covid death. they use ultra sensative tests, they use a higher amplification cycle than neccesary to intentionally pump up the numbers. someone could get a positive on cycle 40, not even be contagious and for all intents and purposes have been done with covid, then drop dead of a heart attack and that is called a covid death.

You realize if we made a 40 amp cycle PCR test for the seasonal flu and tested every dead body for it, we could get 300k deaths a year from the flu, then if we talk about it on the media 24/7 we could cause the same mass hysteria.

these people play to the narcissistic personalities of people like you, they tell you if you trust in us and believe in us then you are smart, you eat that chit up. then you go online and do their dirty work for them and spread the propaganda. youre a useful idiot to them
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