Anyone here buy land then build a house instead of buying one already made?

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Originally Posted By BrotienShake⏩

Define pay. No way I'm even considering doing a job without a deposit for material/labor. Depending on size of job I would also get paid after hanging rock and balance once taping/texture is done.

Should have defined this better my bad. You get a chunk up front for signing the contract, money for ordering material, money for bringing it to the job, money for installing stuff, money for finishing stuff, and then the final "retainage" pay when you're done done. All too often I see people run out of money to give the contractor and the contractor will say "just give me the rest and I'll finish it next month" and then they dead you. Normally it's like between 5-10% of the overall contract size. So on a $400k house with a 10% retainage, that's 40k you give to a contractor and never get back. Then the whole deading you think happens, a lot of angry phone calls back and forth, threatening a lawsuit, etc. Any decent contractor will just finish the job as soon as possible to get you off their books and on to the next one, but a lot of people will dick you over to the point where you do actually sue them, or you get so fed up with it that you finish it yourself. I saw it a lot after the hurricanes hit and a lot of homes had to be redone. A lot of homes got dicked over with chitty contractors.

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Originally Posted By JStrez⏩

Should have defined this better my bad. You get a chunk up front for signing the contract, money for ordering material, money for bringing it to the job, money for installing stuff, money for finishing stuff, and then the final "retainage" pay when you're done done. All too often I see people run out of money to give the contractor and the contractor will say "just give me the rest and I'll finish it next month" and then they dead you. Normally it's like between 5-10% of the overall contract size. So on a $400k house with a 10% retainage, that's 40k you give to a contractor and never get back. Then the whole deading you think happens, a lot of angry phone calls back and forth, threatening a lawsuit, etc. Any decent contractor will just finish the job as soon as possible to get you off their books and on to the next one, but a lot of people will dick you over to the point where you do actually sue them, or you get so fed up with it that you finish it yourself. I saw it a lot after the hurricanes hit and a lot of homes had to be redone. A lot of homes got dicked over with chitty contractors.

Ah okay lol. In my case if its a small patch or something like that if I have the material in hand I will usually just charge my labor for the patch but once were talking about bigger projects aka new drywall in rooms, a good amount of patches, etc I have to ask for the deposit for the material and to pay my guys.

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02-01-2021, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩

That is really cool. I don't love traditional central HVAC, but my budget is more like window units, a good stove/fireplace, and cracking a window.

Yeah, im a sucker for technology so I was sold on the concept and it is really cool to have $70 electricity bills in the dead heat of summer in Texas.

For a tiny house, I would probably do a mini split!

02-01-2021, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted By BrotienShake⏩

Define pay. No way I'm even considering doing a job without a deposit for material/labor. Depending on size of job I would also get paid after hanging rock and balance once taping/texture is done.

Yep. I do 1/3, 1/3,1/3 unless it's a smaller job then I have 1/3, 2/3 in the contract. I do some smaller jobs for past clients then just get pay in full at the end.

I don't take on a lot of jobs without the customer having been referred from a past customer though these days.

There is always the other side of the coin too. I've been burned by other contractors, house flippers and real estate companies multiple times. Now I've got a saying "if your name ain't on the deed, it's work that I don't need".

Funny as I'm typing this I have a card on my desk from a guy that I did 3 big jobs for, no problem. Then he had me do a smaller job. 20 man hours, I bought all the paint, primer ect.. He never paid me and blocked my calls. Customer was super happy, we did a perfect job. I was out $250 for materials, $200 for paying my helper and on top of that worked a long ass day for nothing... Well, negative $450.

Edit- I also see some other points that are legit.

One thing my customers like about my contracts is they say I will be there on consecutive days from start to finish with only adverse weather delaying (for exteriors). So I'm guaranteeing up front that we will be on their job every single day from start to finish.

I also have materials and labor separated. If I use more materials it's already in the contract I charge for them in the final bill with receipts provided. The only other thing that would change is if the customer requests additional work or we find something in need of repair along the way that is more than a few hours work. Like wood rot that requires siding/trim to be replaced that was not visible in the original walkaround for the estimate. That's also in the contract that in those situations the work would be added to the contract upon customer approval ie: they sign it as an addendum. This also adds to them being more comfortable with honesty as I charge exactly what I paid for the paint, lumber ect.. I don't just charge $1000 for materials when I only used $600 worth.

I see it all the time though. Contractors try to get greedy and take on way more they can handle, then start screwing over customers when they can't keep up. I don't take on any jobs I won't be doing 100% with myself and my crew. I'm on "the" job every day.

02-01-2021, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted By Blasting⏩

Really badass work. The home in the vid you posted is beautiful. Not my style but really impressive.

Any suggestions for the best places to save money through the custom home process? Currently in the foundation stage. Not planning on skimping on flooring or cabinets. Planning on paneling on exterior. I do think I’ll ask for basic lighting/fans because those are things I could easily replace down the line by myself.

Also, what do you think about imperfect smooth drywall? My wife likes it and I think it looks terrible. Probably just a subjective thing but I have a feeling this is going to create an argument when it comes time to choose.

Save money by planning ahead. Have all your selections done PRIOR to starting. It is a ton of work, but a lot can be saved on the purchasing end. The internet is an awesome resource and even though I have all kinds of commercial accounts, I was able to find a lot of 'deals' along the way shopping ahead of time.

Work with a good cabinet shop that can use prebuilt cabinets if you can. Full custom cabinets will double the cost of your cabinets. In certain cases you cant avoid custom. Most good shops can make a kitchen 99% of people would believe was full custom for 1/2 the price.

Spend money where it brings value. And depending on how long you are going to stay in a home, DONT overbuild. Will make harder to sell. Dont spec a level 3 quartz for the countertops at $120/sqft when you can get a nice granite for $40. When you go to sell the home, you are not going to get that extra money out. If it is your 'forever' home...than fuk it and put in what you want.

Same with building in energy efficiency. Dont spend the money unless you plan on being there 10 or more years. You wont see any payback and people wont pay you more for the home.

I could go on a whole bunch, but as you see, specs and planning are where you 'save' money and bring 'value'.

Originally Posted By katya422⏩

Haven't done it, but my ambitions to build are more on this scale- cabin/cottage.

Glad you have work that you enjoy.

I'm a fan of a this type of pantry. Super functional for a galley style set up in a small cottage: stove & sink on an outside wall, long kitchen table for seating/extra prep, and an enclosed shelved pantry w/fridge at one end.

I built all the pantry cabinets myself. I still have not made the upper doors. That was a fun project I envisioned when I designed the home. LOVE having a big pantry. Originally I did not want a fridge in there since I have almost 5' of fridge and freezer about 6' away, but I love having the extra space.

Originally Posted By areyoucereal⏩

Nah, I'm not delusional. I know I'm going to phuck a bunch of stuff up but I want to do it myself anyways. I'm retired, so I'm not concerned with opportunity cost etc. I also do have a a general contractor friend who will be supervising the build from start to finish. Him and his family only build custom homes starting at 2MM+. Currently they are building a 20MM mansion on a private island, and had to install a bridge so it wasn't boat access only. I trust their judgment and will take their advice.

Building homes has always interested me, so I want to learn the process.

Also nice pics you posted. Very nice homes.

Very cool. Sounds like a great project! Having 'friends' in the field will help out a ton. I have helped a bunch along the way do similar things. Again, my advice is plan, plan, plan. Then all that is left is the execution. Most people who have never done it, have no idea the amount of decisions that come into play.

Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩

Very nice work man. I took on my own major remodel....only because I thought it would be fun learning experience (not to save money).
I followed and studied Matt Risinger and a lot of his lessons on my build. Did closed cell spray foam around the envelop of the home. Brought in heating and cooling via a Variant Refrigerant flow system for about as much as traditional cooling would cost and coupled that with am ERV to bring in fresh air. I didnt do the Zip R system on the outside due to not having access to the entire outside envelop (remodel). Used a fluid applied water proofing for all my windows and doors.

Was a fun experience and I definitely learned alot. Im sure I made a lot of mistakes but I felt like my attention to detail ended up resulting in a much cleaner house than if I let a GC do it.

As you are aware, when you build a tight envelope, you have to be VERY careful about a/c sizing requirements. Mini-splits, variant flow systems are great for retrofits since they dont need extensive ductwork. So they work great in old buildings..etc. I ended up using a variable speed OUTDOOR compressor. It can change what it's relative sizing is depending on demand. I have one system for the entire home which is split into 4 zones. Combined with the variable speed indoor unit, the temp never moves from set point.

One cool thing I did, was design my home to be passively solar. Just something fun I did. Above 40 degrees or so, my heat will never come on. I get enough heat gain from the southern facing windows to hold set temp of 71. In the summer, the sun angle is high enough that no direct sunlight comes in those windows, except my stair tower which I knew I could not shield. I am in the south so AC is our big thing, but the proof of concept is fun to achieve. I did it because I can, but would not recommend someone trying to pull off without a lot of knowledge of systems.

I used and ERV since down south we dont use HRV's. We need dehumidification so an ERV acts like an HRV except is dehumidifies the incoming air also.

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My first and current house is a new build but not a full custom or anything like that. Just pick a lot, pick a floor plan, pick finishes, do some walk throughs and done

02-01-2021, 09:32 AM

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I was looking into doing this lately. Due to COVID, I was pretty much unable to find anyone to do a construction loan (buying the land + building on it). Additionally, for land purchases you need to put a lot more down (like 50%). From talking to contractors, I've heard getting permitting is a nightmare too.

I'm still going to do it (eventually) but I had to put my beautiful prefab house on hold.

02-01-2021, 09:43 AM

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I've built twice.
Find a lot you like and offer well below what they're asking. I got both my lots from people who had moved and wanted the money, so I got great deals on them. Maybe luck of the draw, but it worked out well, thankfully.
The first house we built with my father-in-law's help, we were young and I was the general contractor, but honestly if it wasn't for him, I could have screwed up badly. We did alot of our own labor and saved a ton, we were able to use the sweat equity and good timing when we sold to build a much better house 10 years later.
For the second house, we looked at spec houses that builders were selling and found one we really liked, then talked to the builder and let him know that we had land, what changes we wanted to the spec house's design, etc. and then he quoted us for the build. IMO that worked out pretty well, as we had him locked in at a price from the very beginning. We were also able to make deals for trade-offs, such as only doing one bath upstairs and being able to use that credit for finishing a storage space out and some other things.
I was also able to run speaker wire in whatever rooms I wanted for surround sound and do some other things I wouldn't have been able to do buying pre-built.

Cliffs- Built two houses, probably better to hire a gc rather than doing it yourself, alot of time and work (ALOT) during the process, but worth it if you plan to stay there awhile.

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That would be stressful as hell. Dealing with general contractors. NothxJeff!

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My mom and stepdad built a house when I was a junior in high school. My mom thought it would be easy since she and my dad did it when they got married. My step dad is really handy but had no idea what my mother's vision was and nearly had a stroke when he realized that my dad had done about 80% of the work himself, after he got home from his paying job, on a 5k sq ft house and my mother expected my step dad to do the same on a 6k sq ft house. House got done and I had to do a lot of the drywall myself and nearly died trying to roof. I had to grab one of the turbines on the roof to keep from sliding off and then got bitched at for tearing it up. I used to cringe every time my mom would come up with a new project. The woman has no idea of what a reasonable workload is.

I say all this to say you can either hand it all over to a contractor and pay the same as you would for a house already built or work yourself to the bone to save some money.

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Good info itt

Anyone else mirin the absolute FUK out of induced drags home? cot dayum talk about a goal

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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩

Good info itt

Anyone else mirin the absolute FUK out of induced drags home? cot dayum talk about a goal

It's ballin for sure. I love the ultra modern look

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Unless you have something like $500k building a house isn't worth it. New built homes are trash with little to no character and fake material. If you're gonna build a home, build it right with real material like brick siding.

Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩

That OSB thing is stupid advice. (srs)

Built 100's of homes, designed even more. Built a few for myself this being the current one.

Vid below that the one I built for myself 20 years ago.

Building your own home is not for the light of heart. For many people, they dont save any money because they make too many mistakes and overspend on things because of lack of experience.
If building is not your thing, hire a good contractor and do a FIXED price contract based upon detailed specs.

LOL at this ugly McMansion house. Gross

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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩

Good info itt

Anyone else mirin the absolute FUK out of induced drags home? cot dayum talk about a goal

Thanks man. Feel very lucky, but I know one thing for sure. "Stuff" does not make you happy. But it is cool to enjoy nice things.

I have a loooong story, but to cut it short in 2009, I was almost killed in a helicopter crash. Was left with broken neck and frontal brain injury along with amnesia and short-term memory loss. Was a tough few years. The economy tanked, I lost the helicopter, my business had to shut down and I laid off 30+ guys, and did not work for about 3 years taking almost a full year to recover from the accident.

I simplified life finding out what was important to me. That was when I started training again. And have never stopped.

Recently getting back to enjoying some things, but it is not as important as the basics of finding what truly makes you happy.

On a totally funny note, the house looks better with lawn ornaments

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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩

Thanks man. Feel very lucky, but I know one thing for sure. "Stuff" does not make you happy. But it is cool to enjoy nice things.

I have a loooong story, but to cut it short in 2009, I was almost killed in a helicopter crash. Was left with broken neck and frontal brain injury along with amnesia and short-term memory loss. Was a tough few years. The economy tanked, I lost the helicopter, my business had to shut down and I laid off 30+ guys, and did not work for about 3 years taking almost a full year to recover from the accident.

I simplified life finding out what was important to me. That was when I started training again. And have never stopped.

Recently getting back to enjoying some things, but it is not as important as the basics of finding what truly makes you happy.

On a totally funny note, the house looks better with lawn ornaments

Oh that's your house? Sorry for being harsh LOL. It's just not my type.

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I kept getting outbid on homes, because im cheap and treat everything like im buying it off craiglist or ebay. Wife and I decided to do a new build. I do not regret it at all, dont compromise for **** and get everything you want. I would never do this another way if i had the cahnce

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why would anyone use drywall?

solid concrete walls or wooden log walls are the way to go - none of that flimsy chit no thx jeff

you literlly have infinite possibilities and people still choose that chit man boggles the brain

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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩

Oh that's your house? Sorry for being harsh LOL. It's just not my type.

No worries if you dont like it. I designed it, and I like it quite a bit. Other people seem to like it. Andersen windows asked it they could photograph it and use it in their national advertising (srs). Black windows are a big thing right now, and I was one of the first that spe'd this new window line of theirs.

At the end of the day, I love all types. This home represents a balance of what me and my wife like. It it were just me, I would go more modern all the way around. But I like my wife more than I like any home, so she gets her way

She is smoking hot too so that helps! Been married 20 years and she will still put most 20y.o. girls to shame. But she is an even more fantastic person on the inside and great mom. Life is good.

Here are some other projects to give you an idea of things I design

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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩

That would be stressful as hell. Dealing with general contractors. NothxJeff!

LOL, it can drive you NUTS. My GC and I got along well, but there was a couple of times I wanted to slap him (and probably vice versa).
One thing I like about it is that you can choose 9' (or whatever) ceilings if you want (just that little makes a big difference), you can choose everything down to the color of the light switches, etc.
That alone can make you crazy but if you try to remember it will all be done and hopefully worth it soon, it's not so bad.
Edit: ^^^ induced_drag, nice stuff man!

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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩

lmao looks solid as a rock - like we boys built as our summer cabin in the woods

does it even have a foundation?

just waiting for that next gust of wind to blow it over

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Originally Posted By ziggurat⏩

lmao looks solid as a rock - like we boys built as our summer cabin in the woods

does it even have a foundation?

just waiting for that next gust of wind to blow it over

So now you know more than a state licensed structural engineer? Boy the misc surly draws all the experts.

I have every design I do engineered by a structural engineer. There is a lot in that pic you dont see. It is a lake home and the views out the back were everything to the client. It is made to look as 'light' and 'open' to the rear. It took a good amount of steel to accomplish. Most people are not willing to pay for that, but once those corner cantilevered windows go in, the view will be breathtaking.

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View from the inside like 'boys build at a summer cabin'

Note the cantilivered steel beam with welded corners, supported by PSL engineered columns and full strapping. You could drop a tornado on this and it aint going anywhere.

Will have full insulated commercial corner free glazing installed giving their dining room an unobstructed view of the lake. Not cheap but BEAUTIFUL!

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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩

No worries if you dont like it. I designed it, and I like it quite a bit. Other people seem to like it. Andersen windows asked it they could photograph it and use it in their national advertising (srs). Black windows are a big thing right now, and I was one of the first that spe'd this new window line of theirs.

At the end of the day, I love all types. This home represents a balance of what me and my wife like. It it were just me, I would go more modern all the way around. But I like my wife more than I like any home, so she gets her way

She is smoking hot too so that helps! Been married 20 years and she will still put most 20y.o. girls to shame. But she is an even more fantastic person on the inside and great mom. Life is good.

Here are some other projects to give you an idea of things I design

brah, what program is that?

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Originally Posted By nickh04⏩

brah, what program is that?

I design in Chief Architect and renders show were done in both Lumion and chief. I also use Twin Motion for some rendering stuff.

I have maintained my Chief license for years but I think it is about $2700 to purchase. Lumion is about $3600

Both very powerful. Those renderings shown are just quick ones. You can get a lot more detailed but I only did them to demonstrate the design concepts.

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02-01-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩

View from the inside like 'boys build at a summer cabin'

Note the cantilivered steel beam with welded corners, supported by PSL engineered columns and full strapping. You could drop a tornado on this and it aint going anywhere.

Will have full insulated commercial corner free glazing installed giving their dining room an unobstructed view of the lake. Not cheap but BEAUTIFUL!

Looks like Johnny Cash's house in that Walk the Line movie.

02-01-2021, 12:15 PM

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Dont wanna hijack, but what about adding to an existing home? I am in what is considered a very desirable place to live, good schools and beautiful area. Have .6 acre but home is lacking room. Ideally i need another bedroom and an office area. Its a 3br home, 2100 sq feet. Could sell for close to 500k. But the ideal homes in this area with the extra space are 700k minimum and the interiors are more dated than ours since we just updated the interior and bathrooms.

With home prices the way they are, does it make sense to do an addition? My mortgage and taxes are only 1650 a month. I can afford the expensive homes but I feel so free with such a low mortgage and home halfway paid off. At the same time, the other homes have more acreage and better garages, high ceilings, etc.

02-01-2021, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩

Looks like Johnny Cash's house in that Walk the Line movie.

Damn I like where your mind is, I'm building my first home and oh man its difficult getting everything right. I'm just finishing the plumbing and electrical rough in and then should be good to go for insulation. But I'm going to take some time at this step and make sure everything is in order

02-01-2021, 01:01 PM

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I envy all you boyos ITT. I wish I had these manual skills. I love to learn so my brain went to - "why don't I just spend the thousands I'd give an architect on courses so I can learn to do it myself?" I wonder if that would be possible. Life is long and my hobby is learning skills as I age.

I know this is tough to answer because prices fluctuate a lot depending on location, but if anyone could give me an idea of what I should expect living outside Ottawa, I'd really appreciate it. I'm thinking 20 acres and at least 2500 square feet for the house. I don't need anything extravagant. I do like modern colonials and I'd love to build from scratch and incorporate a proper recording studio with the right insulation in the basement.

What am I looking at $$ per square foot, ballpark? If I had around half a million to spend, would that cover a project like this?

How much did you boyos spend on your homes you had built, by a contractor, since that's the position I'd be in.

Thanks!!

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02-01-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩

I envy all you boyos ITT. I wish I had these manual skills. I love to learn so my brain went to - "why don't I just spend the thousands I'd give an architect on courses so I can learn to do it myself?" I wonder if that would be possible. Life is long and my hobby is learning skills as I age.

I know this is tough to answer because prices fluctuate a lot depending on location, but if anyone could give me an idea of what I should expect living outside Ottawa, I'd really appreciate it. I'm thinking 20 acres and at least 2500 square feet for the house. I don't need anything extravagant. I do like modern colonials and I'd love to build from scratch and incorporate a proper recording studio with the right insulation in the basement.

What am I looking at $$ per square foot, ballpark? If I had around half a million to spend, would that cover a project like this?

How much did you boyos spend on your homes you had built, by a contractor, since that's the position I'd be in.

Thanks!!

I'll say this for land prices. Where I live theyextremelydependent on the perceived quality of the school. The district we live in is A rated and mostly suburban with a little rural and land is between $20 and $25k an acre. A little further out in the county its rural but schools are still A rated and land is $10 to $15k an acre. The county my wife grew up in is a D rated school (thanks to a recent consolidation) and land is $1500 an acre.