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post 1635725863 04-08-2021, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Venom08⏩
It broke out of a resistance downtrend line since the $45 high a few days ago. So this morning I bought the May 21st $34c at $0.30.
Ey Venom- if T-yields are going up doesn't that cause bonds to lose value? I keep hearing that yield spikes are pushing stocks down, but shouldn't it force bond holders to panic sell before the value of their underlying bond goes down and wouldn't they want to avoid buying any if the future expectation is yield will continue to climb?
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post 1635726503 04-08-2021, 10:15 AM
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post 1635730313 04-08-2021, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Speaking of watch lists. Have had SPOT on mine for a few days. I've had premium for....years...and know tons of people who do. Cramer plugged it earlier in the week and reminded me of it. Seems like a lot of people think post pandemic they will lose a lot of subs. Which....knowing how it works...i call BS. It's super easy, and a really good service. You rarely hear of people canceling it or Pandora.
I am big on name recognition and when someone mentions music app people will always mention spotify..... I am curious how companies like Apple, Amazon, Pandora, etc. will cut into their business model.

The comparable IMO would be Netflix still going strong against Amazon Prime, Disney+, Peacock, etc.
post 1635730583 04-08-2021, 10:59 AM
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just bought some pltr.. guess i can now join the rest of you lol

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post 1635732203 04-08-2021, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Jfl if you’re not selling feet pics for extra cash to buy more pltr
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post 1635733943 04-08-2021, 11:46 AM
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Are there any beat down stocks you guys are eyeing right now?

If you guys bought COST for a short term hold at ~314 what would be your exit point? I'm thinking 365-370. It hit 365 today but I didn't sell it.

I bought WMT at ~127 and sold at ~140 after collecting the dividend on the 5th. I expect WMT to get to about 145-150 before coming back down. What would your exit point have been for WMT?
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post 1635734213 04-08-2021, 11:50 AM
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post 1635734533 04-08-2021, 11:55 AM
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Can anyone tell me how Ford isn't the easiest short of our entire lives @$12.50?
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post 1635735783 04-08-2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Ey Venom- if T-yields are going up doesn't that cause bonds to lose value? I keep hearing that yield spikes are pushing stocks down, but shouldn't it force bond holders to panic sell before the value of their underlying bond goes down and wouldn't they want to avoid buying any if the future expectation is yield will continue to climb?
Yeah, like interest rates have nowhere to go but up. I don't know why anyone would hold bonds since they'll decline. It's always lulzy to me when I hear people saying that if rates rise then stocks will crash, when that's never happened. Stocks rise and rates rise, bonds decline.
post 1635735843 04-08-2021, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Can anyone tell me how Ford isn't the easiest short of our entire lives @$12.50?
Huh? They're not going anywhere any time soon.
post 1635735963 04-08-2021, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By MountainLion84⏩
I am big on name recognition and when someone mentions music app people will always mention spotify..... I am curious how companies like Apple, Amazon, Pandora, etc. will cut into their business model.

The comparable IMO would be Netflix still going strong against Amazon Prime, Disney+, Peacock, etc.
I'm sort of surprised Spotify has remained in control of their market share. They've added a lot of podcasts, which Apple Music has (if I'm not mistaken, never used it), they have the family plan which gets more people on board, each person makes tons of playlists and I personally don't ever want to lose them so they probably have me for life. Now they're going to add lossless music to their library, which most people won't care about, but the artists and audiophiles will. Curious where they will go from here.

Although their business model can be copied, they retain market share. I like using them, but won't be buying their stock.
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post 1635736113 04-08-2021, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Can anyone tell me how Ford isn't the easiest short of our entire lives @$12.50?
Been holding Ford for a while. It should go up pretty soon
post 1635736803 04-08-2021, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Can anyone tell me how Ford isn't the easiest short of our entire lives @$12.50?
Weird take
post 1635737493 04-08-2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Weird take
Kinda like that picture you posted on here?
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post 1635737533 04-08-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Can anyone tell me how Ford isn't the easiest short of our entire lives @$12.50?
Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Been holding Ford for a while. It should go up pretty soon
DCA on ford is 11.50

Its a long hold and I think with all the EV chit etc its going to keep inching its way higher. Their dividend may come back too once they get everything in order cuz last year was a chitshow for them they can't possibly do worse than that
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post 1635737843 04-08-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
DCA on ford is 11.50

Its a long hold and I think with all the EV chit etc its going to keep inching its way higher. Their dividend may come back too once they get everything in order cuz last year they were a chitshow
My concern for them is their build costs due to unionized labor that built crazy pensions into the contracts Ford doles out. That, and their teams that do the research/engineering aren't working themselves to death the way Tesla and other EV competitors are. Seems like companies that treat workers well get screwed these days.
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post 1635738723 04-08-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By MountainLion84⏩
I am big on name recognition and when someone mentions music app people will always mention spotify..... I am curious how companies like Apple, Amazon, Pandora, etc. will cut into their business model.

The comparable IMO would be Netflix still going strong against Amazon Prime, Disney+, Peacock, etc.
Right now, im not sure how you could. They offer everything and anything for 10 bucks a month. Unless they get bought.
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post 1635739393 04-08-2021, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
My concern for them is their build costs due to unionized labor that built crazy pensions into the contracts Ford doles out. That, and their teams that do the research/engineering aren't working themselves to death the way Tesla and other EV competitors are. Seems like companies that treat workers well get screwed these days.
Intradaztingg, can't comment on that but I'm sure they'll be able to fix whatever issues are going on with overhead/margins because their new earnings reports are looking good.

IMO they have made mistakes and they were late to the EV game, but now they're finally turning things around and beat EPS last quarter. Apparently their mustang mach E is the biggest competitor to the TSLA model Y and taking market share from US/China sales etc. I have yet to see this mustang so I'm not really totally believing what I've read yet. All I see on the road here are Tesla's still. But I know its going to get crazy with more and more different EV brands on the road and Ford is absolutely going to be one of the main competitors.

They also introduced the new Bronco and have the EV F-150. So they're doing allot now finally.... probably because they knew the fuked up being so late to the game (similar to DIS not starting a streaming service for the longest time, idiots).

Here's something I found cool:
Google Partnership Lifts Ford Stock

Ford stock gained 2.9% on Feb. 1 after CEO James Farley announced the 117-year old automaker is partnering with tech giant Google. The Michigan-based carmaker and Alphabet-owned company will form a new collaborative group called Team Upshift.

"We're going to leverage the talent and assets of both companies to push the boundaries of Ford's transformation," Ford Motor wrote in a company blog post. "This may include projects ranging from modernizing our plants through vision AI, developing new retail experiences when buying a vehicle, creating new ownership offers based on connected vehicle data, and more."

In addition to the joint venture, the deal will make Google the preferred cloud service for the Detroit automaker.
Edit- And at this moment with all the info I've gathered I would never have F be a large percentage of my portfolio because I see allot better plays out there with more growth potential. Its not a big "money maker" imo but more of a slow, steady, safe long hold
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post 1635739593 04-08-2021, 01:04 PM
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Elephant in the room is the chip shortage? How will that not impact Ford's botton line? If all these automakers are slowing production and/or shutting plants, where is the growth? Will the stocks react positively if they compensate by raising prices despite lower sales volume?
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post 1635739733 04-08-2021, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By John
Elephant in the room is the chip shortage? How will that not impact Ford's botton line? If all these automakers are slowing production and/or shutting plants, where is the growth? Will the stocks react positively if they compensate by raising prices despite lower sales volume?
Very good point / question and I would like to know this as well. But the chip shortage is impacting all EV companies no? Someone spoon feed me info please.

Edit- lol AAPL now not able to produce their products because of the chip shortage.....This was reported 10 seconds ago

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Consulting firm AlixPartners estimates the chip shortage will cut $60.6 billion in revenue from the global automotive industry this year. The problem is impacting every automaker differently.
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post 1635740453 04-08-2021, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Very good point / question and I would like to know this as well. But the chip shortage is impacting all EV companies no? Someone spoon feed me info please.

Edit- lol AAPL now not able to produce their products because of the chip shortage.....This was reported 10 seconds ago
It affects any automaker that is using Just In Time manufacturing.
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post 1635740553 04-08-2021, 01:15 PM
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Lol @ Ford vs TSLA comparison.

TSLA is developing an APPL-like following, that m'fcker is going to the moon.
post 1635740823 04-08-2021, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
It affects any automaker that is using Just In Time manufacturing.
So pretty much all of them?
Originally Posted By Elias373⏩
Lol @ Ford vs TSLA comparison.
TSLA is developing an APPL-like following, that m'fcker is going to the moon.
Yes TSLA and F are hardly comparable and both very different companies

We all know TSLA is much much more than a vehicle manufacturer and I agree its like the AAPL of vehicles....It did already go to the moon so its headed to mars now if this phuckery keeps up
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Originally Posted By John
Elephant in the room is the chip shortage? How will that not impact Ford's botton line? If all these automakers are slowing production and/or shutting plants, where is the growth? Will the stocks react positively if they compensate by raising prices despite lower sales volume?
Most manufacturers have idled plants for 1-2 weeks thus far which shouldn't hurt too bad... but any more than that and it'll start becoming very painful to bottom lines.
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Just bought 10 more X. Still a great entry point for you guys if you want to jump in.
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Portfolio did nothing today pretty much, slowest day in a long time for me

Getting the feeling we'll see some big movers tomorrow
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post 1635745503 04-08-2021, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Portfolio did nothing today pretty much, slowest day in a long time for me

Getting the feeling we'll see some big movers tomorrow
That sucks $1,500+ for me in SPAC land
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post 1635745923 04-08-2021, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
That sucks $1,500+ for me in SPAC land
Das it mayne
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