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post 1638472733 05-13-2021, 11:09 AM
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I think it’s well known VP9 is goat striker fired hand gun.
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post 1638472953 05-13-2021, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Millz
The 14.5" or 16" Geissele SD in black at $1750 is by far the best bang for your buck over anything on the market right now. You couldn't build anything comparable to it without going into the $2000+ range.

If you can't do that much $ then imo the next best thing is to get a blemished BCM complete lower for $340 (sometimes primary arms has them for like $275, I've gotten one that way before), then just buy a BCM complete upper with BCG and that's like a $1200 rifle I'd trust my life to and will run good. The newer triggers that BCM puts in their rifles are pretty good, maybe on par or slightly less good than an ALG trigger (which ALG are like 85% what you get from a G trigger but they're like $75 iirc). Oh, a full price BCM complete lower at $400 is solid too (only $60 more).

If you can't do that, then next best thing is an Aero M4E1 stripped lower and build it outover time when you get the money... I don't think it's cheaper than a BCM blem lower but if you need a pistol or can't put down the $ all at once then it's a good option.

Options to build out Aero lower:

1. $100 for Aero M4E1 lower + ffl transfer fee
2. LPK options:
- A. $185: I think the Geissele mid-range LPK they have is well worth it at like $90, then get an ALG trigger with that ($75).... plus a $20 BCM grip now you're at $185
- B. $120 The BCM enhanced LPK with grip and FCG is the better option at $120 but they're always sold out!
- C. $121 Aero LPK minus FCG and grip $26, plus BCM grip $20, plus ALG trigger $75, $121 this is really good option too. I had my brother do this.
3. Buffer assembly options (let's assume you need a H2 buffer, but change if needed):
- A. $127: Geissele combo of buffer tube, end plate, castle nut, H2 buffer, Super 42 spring. I think this is a really good value for what you get. But rare to find in stock rip in peace
- B. $75: BCM has a kit with buffer tube, end plate, castle nut, H2 buffer, carbine spring. Great option as well. I'd kind of rather get their A5 intermediate buffer system though
- C. The only options are A or B for me personally, no point going cheaper to just save like $25 over option B
4. Stock/brace (depending on what you're doing)
- A. BCM stock is like $55
. B. SBA3 brace is $130

I think that this is the best route to build out an Aero M4E1 lower, you're able to build it out with quality parts and it's not too expensive being between $350 or $540 depending on what things you need ($540 being with the Geissele stuff and a sba3 brace). But seeing as how the "minimum" package with this is $350 I think it's better to just get a complete BCM blem lower at $340 or better yet sometimes when you can get them for like $275... so the only reason I'd go with this Aero lower over the BCM blem is if either:

A. You bought a bunch of stripped Aero lowers to build out later on
or
B. You couldn't afford to spend $350 up front

Also, right now, if you're new to it, good luck finding an Aero M4E1 in stock right now for $100 including your ffl transfer fee. Whereas, right now, Rainier Arms has the BCM blem in stock at $340
For reference:

BCM blem complete lower $340:
https://www.rainierarms.com/bravo-co...r-group-black/

Aero M4E1 stripped lower $90:
https://www.primaryarms.com/aero-pre...receiver-black

Geissele Super Duty LPK (no FCG or grip) $90:
https://geissele.com/geissele-super-...t-no-grip.html

Geissele H2 Buffer kit (tube, castle nut, end plate, H2 buffer, super 42 spring) $127:
https://geissele.com/premium-mil-spe...-h2-black.html

ALG Defense ACT trigger $69:
https://www.primaryarms.com/alg-defe...at-trigger-act

SBA3 brace $130:
https://www.primaryarms.com/sb-tacti...p-pa-exclusive

BCM stock $56:
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcmgunfi...k-mod-0-black/

BCM enhanced LPK (with a good trigger and grip) $120:
https://www.primaryarms.com/bravo-co...arts-kit-black

Aero LPK (no FCG or grip) $25:
https://www.primaryarms.com/aero-pre...-trigger-guard

BCM buffer stuff with H2 buffer $75:
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-mils...-kit-mil-spec/

BCM grips $18 or $26:
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcmgunfi...p-mod-3-black/
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcmgunfi...p-mod-0-black/
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post 1638473313 05-13-2021, 11:17 AM
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Or just ball out and buy a KAC on gunbroker.

It’s just money you can make more later.

One of those LMT New Zealand reference rifles gives me a tingle down there too no homo
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post 1638473383 05-13-2021, 11:18 AM
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Lol it's coming out now that Colonial actually did pay $5 million in ransom to get the pipelines going again... I guess Taf called it. I smelled a rat but didn't think this would come out. It is interesting that the pipeline restarted at exactly 5pm eastern yesterday. Apparently they had a mentally disabled password to their entire network control system like "admin"

And they paid the ransom in crypto, just lamo. I'm in the wrong bidness
post 1638473973 05-13-2021, 11:26 AM
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So that's why "hopefully by the end of the week" turned into Wednesday evening
post 1638474313 05-13-2021, 11:30 AM
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Safariland has a 25% off sale going on until the end of this month, code is SAF25OFF... well worth it if you need a "duty" owb holster
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post 1638474323 05-13-2021, 11:30 AM
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Feds will probably reimburse them.

Just Biden’s America things.
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post 1638475203 05-13-2021, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne
Feds will probably reimburse them.

Just Biden’s America things.
That would be a ridiculous statement at any other time in history, but will probably turn out to be the case. There is a lot of stuff going on under the covers right now.
post 1638475263 05-13-2021, 11:42 AM
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Plain Jane Aero BCG in stock $134 shipps free


https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/556...-black-nitride
post 1638475303 05-13-2021, 11:42 AM
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Can we make next thread title Farley vs Criminal Manne part 500?
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post 1638475693 05-13-2021, 11:47 AM
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Combat gassed needs to make it's way into the next thread title
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post 1638476993 05-13-2021, 12:03 PM
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What's up ya Elise fantasizers?

buncha god dam johnny rebel Elise lovers up in this thrad.
6 scoops of xf up2.0 a day
post 1638479003 05-13-2021, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz
Safariland has a 25% off sale going on until the end of this month, code is SAF25OFF... well worth it if you need a "duty" owb holster
Well, I don't have one, yet.....
the above post is not serious and is for entertainment purposes only.
Thanks for your time.
post 1638479383 05-13-2021, 12:32 PM
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Land of the rising holosun
Combat gas
Etc

Go Go Go
post 1638480123 05-13-2021, 12:42 PM
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What wipers y'all using

Hate rain x, bosche is terrible, and good year is junk too
post 1638480343 05-13-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
What wipers y'all using

Hate rain x, bosche is terrible, and good year is junk too
Trico. Just don't run them dry. They will actually scratch glass
post 1638480373 05-13-2021, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
What wipers y'all using

Hate rain x, bosche is terrible, and good year is junk too
Don't buy them from Amazon.

Bosch icon. Or go to the dealer and buy OEM srs
post 1638480423 05-13-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Don't buy them from Amazon.

Bosch icon. Or go to the dealer and buy OEM srs
I hardly buy from Amazon anymore it's all fake Chinese chit
post 1638481433 05-13-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
I hardly buy from Amazon anymore it's all fake Chinese chit
This is united states of China, embrace it.
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post 1638482293 05-13-2021, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne
I think it’s well known VP9 is goat striker fired hand gun.
After learning how to grip the gun properly I won’t have one.

The trigger guard is really important and the VP9 has a mess of one.
post 1638482663 05-13-2021, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozef
Plain Jane Aero BCG in stock $134 shipps free


https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/556...-black-nitride
Repped. Just ordered that plus the LPK for my M1E4. $160 shipped with 10% code you can find everywhere. Legit
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post 1638483253 05-13-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521
After learning how to grip the gun properly I won’t have one.

The trigger guard is really important and the VP9 has a mess of one.
Don’t own one personally so don’t care, but please elaborate.

It was my favorite after shooting a friends cause I like the trigger and overall feel. And paddle mag release and a couple other things. Don’t have thousands of rounds behind one or anything.

Didn’t notice anything profoundly unique about the VP9 trigger guard of all things.
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post 1638483713 05-13-2021, 01:24 PM
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https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-bfh-...-10-handguard/



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post 1638483873 05-13-2021, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne
Don’t own one personally so don’t care, but please elaborate.

It was my favorite after shooting a friends cause I like the trigger and overall feel. And paddle mag release and a couple other things. Don’t have thousands of rounds behind one or anything.

Didn’t notice anything profoundly unique about the VP9 trigger guard of all things.
They are supremely reliable.

I have 12,800 rounds through my VP's. Two stoppages that entire time...1 was in the very first range trip using cheap weak crappy ammo in the first 100 rounds (it has 3,765 now and that was the only non-perfection) and the other 1 was with purple dyed wincrapper for training use only ammo.

You can do ball and dummy drills without dummy rounds or snap caps. Load spent empty cases into the mag and it feeds them and goes into battery perfectly normal. Literally they feed empty cases reliably

Trigger is good. Apex triggers for other guns are better, but VP9 is good enough there's no reason to spend money changing it. Paddle mag release, use trigger hand middle finger, superior to push button, and also fully ambi. Most accurate pistol I have.

But bore axis is counter productive at speed and the full size is dimensionally equal to a G17 despite the barrel being G19 length, and most of the mags are still the 15 round G19 size despite the grip being as large as a G17
post 1638484213 05-13-2021, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
They are supremely reliable.

I have 12,800 rounds through my VP's. Two stoppages that entire time...1 was in the very first range trip using cheap weak crappy ammo in the first 100 rounds (it has 3,765 now and that was the only non-perfection) and the other 1 was with purple dyed wincrapper for training use only ammo.

You can do ball and dummy drills without dummy rounds or snap caps. Load spent empty cases into the mag and it feeds them and goes into battery perfectly normal. Literally they feed empty cases reliably

Trigger is good. Apex triggers for other guns are better, but VP9 is good enough there's no reason to spend money changing it. Paddle mag release, use trigger hand middle finger, superior to push button, and also fully ambi. Most accurate pistol I have.

But bore axis is counter productive at speed and the full size is dimensionally equal to a G17 despite the barrel being G19 length, and most of the mags are still the 15 round G19 size despite the grip being as large as a G17
Once I'm a resident in a free state, VP9 is legit my first purchase for a new bedside gun.
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post 1638484633 05-13-2021, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By criminal_manne
Don’t own one personally so don’t care, but please elaborate.

It was my favorite after shooting a friends cause I like the trigger and overall feel. And paddle mag release and a couple other things. Don’t have thousands of rounds behind one or anything.

Didn’t notice anything profoundly unique about the VP9 trigger guard of all things.
Basically all the grip comes from pinching support hand like below. Glock has a good trigger guard and ledge that sticks out further from slide. Makes gripping easy, and easy to can’t hand forward to lock wrist.

Hard to tell in the pic but I’m holding the gun upside down to show that that’s where all the grip is coming from.

The VP9 is really wide in the trigger guard and with the paddle mag release and all that just makes it harder. But I dunno, haven’t shot one in a while.



post 1638486363 05-13-2021, 02:00 PM
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I think "House of the Rising Holosun" is on point.
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post 1638488323 05-13-2021, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
There is nothing to apologize for lol
Then why don't you support CTD?
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post 1638488393 05-13-2021, 02:26 PM
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Was this posted?

Super Duty Luna Black Blem for $1500:https://geissele.com/super-duty-rifl...ck-blem.html?a
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post 1638488813 05-13-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83
I think "House of the Rising Holosun" is on point.
There is a red dot sight in commie China
They calllll the Holosun
And it's been the choice of many a poor boy
And God, I know, I'm one
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