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post 1643261973 07-20-2021, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
OP almost dies on his last prep. With all due respect to him id consider taking a more moderate route to cutting, eventually you will crash from that.
that was only when i wasnt going to make weight so we got drastic and dropped calories to 1300 and cardio to 1.75 hrs, was worth a try to see if my body could take it and I made weight, with something like that you either take the chance or give up, i took the chance.
Originally Posted By Ilovemygf⏩
Hey OP what macro split do you use for cutting?

I followed your advice with bulking at a low fat percentage ~15% of total cals (which worked out to be max 60g of fat a day) and it’s worked so well, thanks brah.
increase protein slightly(usually 50-100g depending on where you're at) decrease carbs as needed , eventually to the point only as many carbs as needed to perform 90% in the gym. That variable is different person to person, some guys can hit prs on 100g carbs a day other guys need 250g carbs a day or they lose performance. Fats kept at where you will provide enough for hormone function which is around 50g, if you really want to cut you can drop fats to 30g and on off days trade out carbs for more fats to refill fat stores without increasing calories too much.

Honestly you can get away with a lot of lean protein on a cut, theres a strong thermogenic effect of the body converting protein down to amino acids and using them for energy. Theres also been a lot of studies on people eating only lean protein over their maintenance calories and them not gaining any fat.

Remember calories in vs out only matters for weight, if fat loss is the goal you can eat in a surplus if its a majority coming from lean protein, yes you may gain wait because surplus but guess what that weight is going to be... And guess what happens to body fat % when your weight increases and its all lean mass.
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post 1643262083 07-20-2021, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Football players are not bodybuilders.

Frat guys get laid

Football players get laid

Bodybuilders are alone lifting in the gym
i used that analogy because most guys dont really get into bodybuilding or look like bodybuilders in college, the closest to looking like a bodybuilder in college is football players because they have been lifting for a good few years already. Many college football players turn to bodybuilding as well.
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You may as well be talking to a wall, op. It's like the big dink argument. Guys without one will tell you it doesn't matter. But how would they know?

Don't tell them that green haired feminazis love getting manhandled by a big guy. They'll cry into their soy infused lattes for months.
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post 1643262573 07-20-2021, 03:33 PM
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alright let me clear up some sht

first off, to Leo and SS, here is what a college football player male looks like, and here is what a veteran amateur bodybuilder can look close to like and you are saying girls will legitimately mostly pick the football player guy over Cbum. Thats not reality.



Second, im not saying bodybuilder like fukking roelly winklaar because thats top .05% of competitive bodybuilders who have been doing this for 20 years and have ungodly genetics and take 5g of test.


third, SS and many miscers are delusional and dont understand bodybuilders arent walking around year round 4.5% BF posing every muslce in their body, and when they are in normal cloths and not flexing this is what they look like

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post 1643262583 07-20-2021, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
increase protein slightly(usually 50-100g depending on where you're at) decrease carbs as needed , eventually to the point only as many carbs as needed to perform 90% in the gym. That variable is different person to person, some guys can hit prs on 100g carbs a day other guys need 250g carbs a day or they lose performance. Fats kept at where you will provide enough for hormone function which is around 50g, if you really want to cut you can drop fats to 30g and on off days trade out carbs for more fats to refill fat stores without increasing calories too much.

Honestly you can get away with a lot of lean protein on a cut, theres a strong thermogenic effect of the body converting protein down to amino acids and using them for energy. Theres also been a lot of studies on people eating only lean protein over their maintenance calories and them not gaining any fat.

Remember calories in vs out only matters for weight, if fat loss is the goal you can eat in a surplus if its a majority coming from lean protein, yes you may gain wait because surplus but guess what that weight is going to be... And guess what happens to body fat % when your weight increases and its all lean mass.
Thanks mate, really appreciate it
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post 1643262613 07-20-2021, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Yea he is skinny so he can add 10 lbs muscle and still look good.

But op is talking about bodybuilder level amount of muscle and Cbum type physique. If that guy adds that amount of muscle to bodybuilder level he will lose interest of majority of young HBB girls.
Sure.

I think the following applies. If natural you cannot get «too big». There is probably diminishing returns to attractiveness from adding muscle. So adding a little muscle from «untrained» has a big effect, then the extra attractiveness you get from more muscle quickly peaks. So after a certain amount of muscle added you are basically just training for yourself and not increasing your attractiveness.

For non-natties, there’s a point where the attractiveness actually starts declining with added muscle. To cross this point is just stupid but many cannot help themselves.
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post 1643262873 07-20-2021, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Thats exactly what im saying. Both clones would be attractive in the eyes of most women, except the muscular clone may be slightly more "primally" desired. Both gonna get laid with whoever they choose that night tho.


My point is that there's a level where you are attractive to the opposite sex without the need of being a gymrat or sacrificing time and social life just for an extra 10-20 pounds of muscle. In the case of the actor in question, id say its overkill, hes slaying either way
Agreed.

It’s probably more interesting to look at this from the perspective of the average Joe.

I think it’s then rather simple. For natties, diminishing returns but you won’t hurt your attractiveness by adding more muscle as the natty limit will stop you well before that point can be reached. For non-natties there’s a threshold that you can cross where you start hurting your attractiveness.
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post 1643263163 07-20-2021, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By wildchild11⏩
As women age they like muscle more and more. But this conversation is pointless. Get to minimal bodyfat and put muscle on your frame after that.
not true

Don’t actually know a single old woman who likes BB physique

Source: am old woman
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post 1643263273 07-20-2021, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By spaggeti⏩
cant relate as a natty but can only imagine brah
That av is closer to female ideal tbh

But don’t lift for wimmen
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Sexual dimorphism is real.

Kinda out of character for you make this thread TBH.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I think the attractiveness threshold is the same as the natty/non natty threshold. Natty always looks good. Non natty almost always looks worse.
Not always. Chris Hemsworth looks better in Thor than before (?)
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
If green haired feminazis love bodybuilders that is hardly a good endorsement lmao
I think you missed the point I am making. A guy that has hyperdeveloped masculine features should be the antithesis of what feminazi wants.

But it isn't. This type of female represents an exaggeration of an ideology that that promotes feminine traits in men.

Whether attracting a feminazi is a sign of high value is irrelevant. It's a good barometer for where most normal women are in terms of appealing to them. And it does appeal to them.

Everyone has their own tastes but op it talking about a type of person that is very rare in the general public. Asking whether the average woman is receptive is like asking the average person if they want a lambo. A lot will say no, it's a waste of money, but when you see a lambo it stands out and attracts a lot of attention for the simple fact it is rare in most places. Add in how great of a car it is, given the option, more people would take a lambo if it was actually obtainable, even if they have said in the past that they have no desire for one.

People discover they have a taste for something that previously wasn't an option because the oppurtunity is few and far between.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Sexual dimorphism is real.

Kinda out of character for you make this thread TBH.
I just think its wild how the misc has created this idea, most likely perpetuated by SS, that girls dont find guys the size of Cbum attractive and think its "gross" and that my experience going from average miscer size to cbum size has shown the exact opposite.

There have been like 5 threads with this discussion in it over the past couple days hating on the bodybuilder look and i noticed a bunch of girls coming at me recently and both of these things kind of happened at the same time and revealed a massive difference in what misc thinks and what happens in reality.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I think the attractiveness threshold is the same as the natty/non natty threshold. Natty always looks good. Non natty almost always looks worse.
What's funny is i know tons of former college football players and was friends with some in college and they all did OJ. All of them. I havn't met 1 FB player who didnt except QBs and Receivers/corners but even then they did SOME illegal PED's.
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Maybe the world is turning ?

But that guy is not smexy

You’d probably get the same attention 50lb lighter or dadbodding tbh
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
That av is closer to female ideal tbh

But don’t lift for wimmen
thanks rabbit

the wife does enjoy it

but OP on another level
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When someone's examples of a typical footballer is a fuzzy photo of some kid just out of the shower VS some juiced up Instagram 'Influencer' type, with perfectly manicured nails, hair, posing in perfect lighting, etc... you know they're grasping at straws.

btw, want to know which of those two guys attracts more women?













A: whichever one is taller.
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Originally Posted By windchimesilo⏩
Yeah agreed. When I was in much better shape, there were times I didn't even have to approach. Friends who knew girls would tell me the girls saw me and want to hang out etc. It's a good book to get laid for sure. Relationships tho, it doesn't mean a thing. If you have a fiance tho, you must have things in order with yourself. Good luck with that op.
Indeed. I was shy to approach women in my teens and 20s unless I was buzzed. Didn't matter. I did very well by women approaching directly or their friend approaching me for them, female coworkers making comments, meeting women at parties. I didn't learn how to have any game for awhile.

No need to be huge. Being lean and having some muscle makes people think you're bigger than you are. Until I became a father I basically always had a track sprinter (with reason) that lifted look. Big thighs, broad back from weighted pullups, low bodyfat. Getting laid easily wasn't all from having a good build, but I know it definitely helped.
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
I think you missed the point I am making. A guy that has hyperdeveloped masculine features should be the antithesis of what feminazi wants.

But it isn't. This type of female represents an exaggeration of an ideology that that promotes feminine traits in men.

Whether attracting a feminazi is a sign of high value is irrelevant. It's a good barometer for where most normal women are in terms of appealing to them. And it does appeal to them.

Everyone has their own tastes but op it talking about a type of person that is very rare in the general public. Asking whether the average woman is receptive is like asking the average person if they want a lambo. A lot will say no, it's a waste of money, but when you see a lambo it stands out and attracts a lot of attention for the simple fact it is rare in most places. Add in how great of a car it is, given the option, more people would take a lambo if it was actually obtainable, even if they have said in the past that they have no desire for one.

People discover they have a taste for something that previously wasn't an option because the oppurtunity is few and far between.
man speaks the truth

And is a perfect example like he is using how women say they want one thing but their carnal instincts still want another and they will almost always fold to their carnal instincts
Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
When someone's examples of a typical footballer is a fuzzy photo of some kid just out of the shower VS some juiced up Instagram 'Influencer' type, with perfectly manicured nails, hair, posing in perfect lighting, etc... you know they're grasping at straws.

btw, want to know which of those two guys attracts more women?



A: whichever one is taller.
i was actually being generous with that football player, he is actually more muscular/more in shape and better facial aesthetics than the majority of college football players
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Of course women care a lot about muscle. It’s cope to think otherwise.


Muscle is a huge part of looks and how you are perceived.
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Just like we have HTC and LTC they have different crews as well. Just lol @ pretending all women universally like the same thing.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
man speaks the truth

And is a perfect example like he is using how women say they want one thing but their carnal instincts still want another and they will almost always fold to their carnal instincts
So explain why a higher proportion of bodybuilders are autistic

American football players look fat not athletic
Male gymnasts all manlets
Male ballet dancers all ghey but long and lean and strong as feck

Now swimmers.. long lines, often found wet ..hnngg
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The difference in how people (both men and women) treat you when you're jacked and wearing a fitted shirt vs baggy hoodie is night and day, it's almost comical

Instant respect
Somehow my jokes are funnier
Talking about my boring life becomes interesting

They'll all say muscle doesn't matter but for 99.9% of men it can only ever be a positive unless you're on IFBB levels of sauce
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