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08-13-2021, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Strong thisIn a true pandemic, we would be checking for natural antibodies
In a true pandemic, we would not be axing medical staff for not getting an ineffective experimental jab
In a true pandemic, we would not be axing medical staff for not getting an ineffective experimental jab
08-13-2021, 11:34 PM
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I'd rather get my weiner sucked on by an unvaccinated nurse than a vaccinated one (all other factors being equal.)
08-13-2021, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
"aren't matching to residency" can you explain this part?Nope. They’ll just be replaced by cheaper staff.
Hospitals are already doing this. They’re replacing the $$$ MD’s with cheaper PA/NP/CRNAs.
I mean, fuk, NPs can now practice independently. Medical school graduates aren’t matching to residency because of this bullchit, and are stuck with no career and $300k+ of student debt.
Quality of care will go down, but profits wont.
Hospitals are already doing this. They’re replacing the $$$ MD’s with cheaper PA/NP/CRNAs.
I mean, fuk, NPs can now practice independently. Medical school graduates aren’t matching to residency because of this bullchit, and are stuck with no career and $300k+ of student debt.
Quality of care will go down, but profits wont.
I've thought of medschool as a second career in the future, but the main reason i won't being that the enormous debt is too much to risk. I then reasoned it's by design, to attract people who make high stakes decisions
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08-13-2021, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
The federal government hasn’t increased the number of residency program positions in a very long time. The supply of qualified grads has surpassed the number of available training slots. A medical school grad cannot practice without completion of a residency training program, so they’re screwed and left with an almost worthless $300k degree."aren't matching to residency" can you explain this part?
I've thought of medschool as a second career in the future, but the main reason i won't being that the enormous debt is too much to risk. I then reasoned it's by design, to attract people who make high stakes decisions
I've thought of medschool as a second career in the future, but the main reason i won't being that the enormous debt is too much to risk. I then reasoned it's by design, to attract people who make high stakes decisions
Now when you add in NP/PA’s being hired over MDs, the situation has become worse.
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08-13-2021, 11:41 PM
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I guarantee they are seeing side effects first hand if they are refusing.
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08-13-2021, 11:44 PM
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Really makes you wonder.
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my phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
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08-13-2021, 11:51 PM
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A few nurses I know are quitting. They told me they don't care how much time and money was spent in nursing school, they refuse to take this thing.
Definitely think we're going to see more and more of this.
Definitely think we're going to see more and more of this.
08-13-2021, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
This sounds highly relatable to me, hopefully the local hospital will work out insideThose states get what they deserve however, what they deserve is biting the other people in the ass that didn't vote for this and don't have the means to leave.
Its why Liberalism is such a parasitic party - its the only one that benefits and when its done, it up and leaves to infect another region.
Its why Liberalism is such a parasitic party - its the only one that benefits and when its done, it up and leaves to infect another region.
08-13-2021, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
This isn’t legal. They cannot deny any patient medical care.my phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
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08-13-2021, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
And this is what I've been telling family members. They're going to try their hardest and pull this bull**** at some places and straight up refuse to treat you if you haven't got the shot and all the boosters. It's not legal but we see how they've wiped their ass with the constitution lately.my phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
I wouldn't be surprised if some hospitals are giving people the shot secretly after they've been admitted, srs.
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Vaccine mandates are going to go down as the blunder of the Democratic Party. Just like gun control in the 90's, they will push this vax crap and people are going to vote the out.
Just wait until people notice their taxes go up next year. It's going to be a blood bath.
Just wait until people notice their taxes go up next year. It's going to be a blood bath.
08-14-2021, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
https://apps.acgme.org/ads/Public/Reports/Report/8The federal government hasn’t increased the number of residency program positions in a very long time. The supply of qualified grads has surpassed the number of available training slots. A medical school grad cannot practice without completion of a residency training program, so they’re screwed and left with an almost worthless $300k degree.
Now when you add in NP/PA’s being hired over MDs, the situation has become worse.
Now when you add in NP/PA’s being hired over MDs, the situation has become worse.
Put in any specialty (e.g., Internal Medicine) and 2020-2021 for academic year. There's a myriad of new residency programs opening in every specialty every year. Additionally, unless a program opens a new floor, the ACGME won't let the maxed trainee cap budge. Residents get paid garbage compared to advanced practice providers, why would they feel any pressure?
08-14-2021, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
fuark imagine all that time, money, and schooling just to end up sitting around with your dick in your hand...The federal government hasn’t increased the number of residency program positions in a very long time. The supply of qualified grads has surpassed the number of available training slots. A medical school grad cannot practice without completion of a residency training program, so they’re screwed and left with an almost worthless $300k degree.
Now when you add in NP/PA’s being hired over MDs, the situation has become worse.
Now when you add in NP/PA’s being hired over MDs, the situation has become worse.
how do they remedy that? just open up a bunch of residency programs?
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08-14-2021, 10:12 AM
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It’s just helping the pharma industrial complex tbh.
Talked to a doctor who comes in regularly and he said basically icu is 80% but should be less than half that. They don’t have the staff to discharge people properly and people are staying for 2-3 days longer then they need to. Now they can take that 80% icu number and use it to prove this is a bad pandemic and we need more vaccines, lockdowns etc etc..
Talked to a doctor who comes in regularly and he said basically icu is 80% but should be less than half that. They don’t have the staff to discharge people properly and people are staying for 2-3 days longer then they need to. Now they can take that 80% icu number and use it to prove this is a bad pandemic and we need more vaccines, lockdowns etc etc..
08-14-2021, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By kingHanley⏩
Sounds like its going as planned, maybe now they will sign Rand Pauls bill into law of bringing in nearly unlimited foreign born nurses/health care workers to replace them.Every hospital here in maricopa county is on a 9 hour wait for lobby patients and like 1 hour for ambos.
I asked two different charge nurses at ERs why they are leaving . They don’t want to take the jab. And the others are quitting because they are short staffed. Lol at liberals
I asked two different charge nurses at ERs why they are leaving . They don’t want to take the jab. And the others are quitting because they are short staffed. Lol at liberals
Buddy of mine was in the hospital for a coupe of days, said the only nurses who spoke english were the white/black ones over 60 who've been there for decades.
08-14-2021, 10:26 AM
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Oh great, now they can be replaced by CCP sent Drs and nurses who have NO remorse for their patients. They'll prescribe fetanyl for stubbed toes and suggest "pillbillies" take them until they are dead to prevent COVID.
08-14-2021, 10:31 AM
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this is a stretch. maybe 1 out of 10 nurses refuse the jab. somebody else will be happy to take their job, no problem.
08-14-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By ujelly⏩
My wife's a nurse in socal at big hospital. Doesn't want it along with lots of other nurses. Needs to be a choice.
Originally Posted By WhoWasFeel⏩
A few nurses I know are quitting. They told me they don't care how much time and money was spent in nursing school, they refuse to take this thing.
Definitely think we're going to see more and more of this.
Definitely think we're going to see more and more of this.
Originally Posted By seksi⏩
I don't know about nurses, but my wife's a resident physician and she's gotta take the jab by Sept. 1st or get a weekly PCR test. She even mentioned that if she caught COVID while remaining unvaccinated that they'd fire her, although I don't know how true that is. As a medical student myself, I'm in a similar predicament. However, I don't have the option of getting a weekly test. The hospital where I just got stationed threw the mandate on me last minute, and I've been attending without an ID badge for the last two weeks. I don't know how much longer I can hold out boyos...
Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
Okay so what is the plan here realistically?my phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
Are we supposed to have two different healthcare systems in this country?
One for the practitioners and patients that do not want the vaccine and one for the practitioners and patients that are vaccinated?
Are we seriously going to wreck the United States over a freaking virus???
Vaccine mandates make me so angry. I might feel differently if:
- the virus was super deadly and contagious and killing 10% or more in all age groups
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- the vaccines were proven effective and safe based on at least a 2 year Phase 3 Trial
But no, we are told that in order to work at a job or participate in public activities we must accept an experimental vaccine of limited [and declining] effectiveness and with unknown long term effects for which [if they happen and are bad] we can expect to receive no compensation or support because the gospel of scientific mainstream opinion will say "you can't prove it was the vaccine".OR
- the vaccines were proven effective and safe based on at least a 2 year Phase 3 Trial
Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Also this.In a true pandemic, we would be checking for natural antibodies
In a true pandemic, we would not be axing medical staff for not getting an ineffective experimental jab
In a true pandemic, we would not be axing medical staff for not getting an ineffective experimental jab
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08-14-2021, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
that's fukking straight up not legalmy phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
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Hospitals brought this on themselves. You force people to take an experimental "vaccine" that doesn't stop transmission or grants immunity, a "vaccine" that not everyone needs or wants then act surprised when the people quit and choose other career paths...So between police quitting in droves and now nurses are we going to start going after the fire fighters next? Go for the trifecta?
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
Legally they can't do that, if someone shows up requiring emergency treatment they can't turn them away.my phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
Yeah this post is complete bullsh*t.my phaeggot hospital sent a letter saying they would not allow any PATIENTS in without vaccination... I was like wow... so you are going to let people die or go untreated because they choose to rely on their immune systems for the flu...wu flu, but still same thing. They dont check your vacc status or exclude you is you dont have the vaccine for any one of the majorly deadly viruses that have actual authorized vaccines, but this one is apparently (D)ifferent? I dont understand how people dont see that this is about something else and always has been. This has truly gone too far. We need to put an end to this once and for all. im losing faith in America day by day.
No one can be denied treatment for any reason.
08-14-2021, 10:55 AM
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Not gonna happen. Purely cope coming from people hoping the vaccine mandates backfire and hurt the institutions that implement them. A very small proportion will actually quit, and they’ll be the bottom of the barrel nurses anyways.
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Nurse (med/surg RN) FWB has tested positive for covid twice. In November of 2020 and March of 2021.
In November, she had some symptoms and had 10 days off. In March, she didn't really have symptoms and they only made her take 3 days off.
She plans to refuse the vaccine and force them to fire her. She's been a nurse for 25 years and says it might be time for a career change.
In November, she had some symptoms and had 10 days off. In March, she didn't really have symptoms and they only made her take 3 days off.
She plans to refuse the vaccine and force them to fire her. She's been a nurse for 25 years and says it might be time for a career change.
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my cousin is a nurse and just posted some dumb **** saying in Houston they are telling people "sorry there are no beds for your children in the ICU until another child dies"
So they are using threatening children's well being based in lies to scare parents into being extremely emotional about forcing people to get vaccines
So they are using threatening children's well being based in lies to scare parents into being extremely emotional about forcing people to get vaccines
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08-14-2021, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
I mean the MD's arent always geniusesI don’t.
8-10 years of schooling and specialized training (MD) versus an online degree (NP)?
They’re not as different as you think they are.
8-10 years of schooling and specialized training (MD) versus an online degree (NP)?
They’re not as different as you think they are.
What about the women starting on her first day of residency. The supervisor told her to give a patient orange juice. The patient was sleeping so she hooked it up with an IV killing the patient. This after going through medical school.
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