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post 1606108841 05-28-2020, 08:15 PM
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-Retro 240z inspired design
-3.0tt 400hp motor from the Q50/Q60
-6 speed manual and 9AT transmissions
-Nismo version rumored to have 500hp

Looks like this could be a reskinned 370z, so weight should be around 3200-3500lbs depending on trim packages.

As a current 370z owner I'm going to miss the N/A V6, but very excited to drive this car when it's released.



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I used to have a 350z. That guy was so much fun to drive. Very light, great handling and pulled pretty good for being stock.

I can't imagine a 400hp TT in a car that small. Would be very fun.
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post 1606111221 05-28-2020, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
If this is true, it should make it easier to boost power on the cheap.
This motor is in the 2016+ Q50/Q60 and those cars are making 450whp and 5XXtq with just a tune and lower down pipes
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post 1606112461 05-28-2020, 08:58 PM
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supra competitor? looks nice
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post 1606118731 05-28-2020, 10:11 PM
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If Nissan is smart, they will bring this in at a price point that undercuts the Supra.

There really isn't much in the way of a legit sports car in the sub $50k category, especially with a 6MT.

Supra pushes $60k+ when optioned out and no manual.
Cayman is a brilliant car, but even more expensive.
Miata and BRZ/86 are under-powered and although cheaper, couldn't begin to compete with what this car could offer.

Toyota is bringing the 4 cylinder turbo to the Supra line up, which would likely be in that mid 40's price range along with the Z, but I don't think anyone in their right mind is picking up a 4 cylinder auto Supra over a 3.0TT Z in 6MT unless you're an Instagram hoe looking for a "sporty" car to pose with.

Very excited for this. Won't buy one, because I am all about that AWD, but still, very excited.
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cheesus why are they making so many suvs?
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Still remember this commercial and why I bought my first Z, they fell off after that, the 350 was hideous, the 370 was underpowered for the competition, hopefully this brings a fraction of it back but looking at the outline I'm not too hopeful. These days it's either GTR or nothing from them, the rest of the lineup is absolute trash minus a few vehicles which offroad brahs might like.


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Major YAWN. They're not even trying.

What happened to you Nissan?
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Originally Posted By luckyboy23⏩
Major YAWN. They're not even trying.

What happened to you Nissan?
A 2 seater with a 400hp twin turbo and a stick shift isn't trying?
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What's funny is some weeks ago i had been thinking that Nissan should bring back a newer 240z design.

400 stock horsepower at 3400lbs, that thing is gonna be fast. The Q50 motor already has tons of aftermarket support, a simple APR tune will get you to 500hp easy. All of that on top of having the 240z, sounds like a knock out the park. The only way they can fail is if they cheap out and use plastic in the interior. The 240z boyz will be pulling up to Camaros, Mustangs, and Challengers.

Starting MSRP will be $40,000
post 1606184831 05-29-2020, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
A 2 seater with a 400hp twin turbo and a stick shift isn't trying?
It has my attention. Stick + ~400HP + ~3000lbs in a small package is a great package for cruising and tracking.
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post 1606188111 05-29-2020, 04:14 PM
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I've always loved the way the Z cars look and now it will have the power to match. The 370z had such a great look to it but definitely not enough power.

Anyone catch that there was no GTR in that vid?
post 1606235701 05-30-2020, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
It has my attention. Stick + ~400HP + ~3000lbs in a small package is a great package for cruising and tracking.
Definitely has my attention

I'm more of an NA guy, but 400hp out the box + 3 pedals? I'm in
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post 1606245851 05-30-2020, 09:31 AM
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What transmission are they putting in it? Thats one thing they can't seem to get right, just pay the extra money and get the zf8 already
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
What transmission are they putting in it? Thats one thing they can't seem to get right, just pay the extra money and get the zf8 already
I think the 9 speed auto is made by ZF but it's still NO ZF8. That trans is just, the freaking best.

Hopefully the car does good. If it is the same engine as the Q50/60, hopefully they make it more efficient as a lot of Q owners are replacing their turbos as early as 40k. No wonder you can get used red sports for like 30k now, 2018 models too.
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The Supra is a rebadged BMW. The 3.0TT engine is a Mercedes engine. Nissan's Infiniti line has quite a bit of these Benz engines like that 2.0 DIG turbo engine. Mercedes engines with Mercedes problems.

Anyways it's about time. Fact is it has just had a few tweaks since 2003. The market for a car like that is there.
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Is the same motor where the head and exhaust manifold are one casting?



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Lol this is what Nissan calls a sports car? I have a tuned Ford Explorer Sport with 445hp that beats Q50's.


Brb getting beat by full sized SUV's in your sports car
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Render based on the video teaser.

If it looks like this I'll get rid of my 370z asap.

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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Lol this is what Nissan calls a sports car? I have a tuned Ford Explorer Sport with 445hp that beats Q50's.


Brb getting beat by full sized SUV's in your sports car
Yeah but it's a Ford explorer
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Lol this is what Nissan calls a sports car? I have a tuned Ford Explorer Sport with 445hp that beats Q50's.


Brb getting beat by full sized SUV's in your sports car
you realize there's a bunch of q50 motors, you've prob been racing the 200hp 4cly lol
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
The 3.0TT engine is a Mercedes engine.
Wait, what? Isn't the VR30DDTT derived from the VR38DETT that's in GTR?

Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Lol this is what Nissan calls a sports car? I have a tuned Ford Explorer Sport with 445hp that beats Q50's.


Brb getting beat by full sized SUV's in your sports car
So how does that disqualify it from being sports car? If someone has a tuned Ford Explorer with 500hp, does it mean yours isn't an SUV anymore?
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Lol this is what Nissan calls a sports car? I have a tuned Ford Explorer Sport with 445hp that beats Q50's.


Brb getting beat by full sized SUV's in your sports car
Q50s only have 300hp LOL. Race a stock Red Sport then come back with results.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Q50s only have 300hp LOL. Race a stock Red Sport then come back with results.
Honestly, red sports aren't fast. Just because it has 400hp stock, doesn't mean it's fast.

It does 13.0 @ 109

That is slow lol.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Q50s only have 300hp LOL. Race a stock Red Sport then come back with results.
For comparison it takes 880hp to get a Cadillac Escalade into the high 12's.

Horsepower isn't really a good indicator of overall performance.

I was just pointing out that for something labeled a "sports car" it should be quicker.




When I think "sports car" I'm thinking at least low 12's/high 11's.


Nissan dropped the ball on this and people looking for sports car will continue to buy Mustang/Corvette etc
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Lol this is what Nissan calls a sports car? I have a tuned Ford Explorer Sport with 445hp that beats Q50's.


Brb getting beat by full sized SUV's in your sports car
For those who equate their self worth with how quick their vehicle is at the stop-light grand prix you may have a point.

Take your tuned Explorer and the new Z on a road course track and your Explorer will be left in the dust with brakes that have faded to uselessness.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
For those who equate their self worth with how quick their vehicle is at the stop-light grand prix you may have a point.

Take your tuned Explorer and the new Z on a road course track and your Explorer will be left in the dust with brakes that have faded to uselessness.
But what if someone doesn't race their car on a road course?

It can work both ways.

I get what the other guy is saying, an explorer, tuned, making that much power, and it's not a sports car. But it's a vehicle that can do it all. Can't say the same for most sports cars.

It just so happens he made his explorer faster. So now it's more versatile than your typical sports cars.

Sports cars are low, have lesser visibility, can only seat 2 (sometimes), RWD (so not ideal in snow but can be done) and not exactly comfortable for the everyday commute.

His explorer doesn't have any of those issues above, and is as fast or faster, than whatever red sport stock.

The red sports, IMHO failed, because of the price point new, and for what you get. Not to mention the auto they used is trash. Hopefully they fix this performance issue for the new nissan Z. Their infotainment is just like lexus, old and trash.
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Originally Posted By 1QWIK7⏩
But what if someone doesn't race their car on a road course?

It can work both ways.

I get what the other guy is saying, an explorer, tuned, making that much power, and it's not a sports car. But it's a vehicle that can do it all. Can't say the same for most sports cars.

It just so happens he made his explorer faster. So now it's more versatile than your typical sports cars.

Sports cars are low, have lesser visibility, can only seat 2 (sometimes), RWD (so not ideal in snow but can be done) and not exactly comfortable for the everyday commute.

His explorer doesn't have any of those issues above, and is as fast or faster, than whatever red sport stock.

The red sports, IMHO failed, because of the price point new, and for what you get. Not to mention the auto they used is trash. Hopefully they fix this performance issue for the new nissan Z. Their infotainment is just like lexus, old and trash.
An SUV is always more versatile than a sports car, tuned or not. No one is arguing that. His SUV may be quicker in a straight line than some sports cars. So what?

My first point is this - laughing at another car because yours can accelerate quicker is a fools game. There's almost always someone with more money that will have a faster car to destroy your ego. While bang for the acceleration buck is important to some it's not important to many.

My second point is this - not everyone cares about going fast in a straight line nor accelerating from a stop light. It's foolish and egotistical to laugh at those with slower cars.

My third point is - his SUV can't do it all. Put it on a road course and watch it flail and cook the brakes when driven by someone who knows how to drive. I've seen it at the tracks at which I teach.

I respect your opinion (even if I disagree with it) that you think the red sports is a failure. My opinion, just as valid, is that some will buy it and think it's a great car. We all have different wants and needs out of a vehicle.

Some will buy the new Z even if there are quicker cars for the $. This is because they're fans of Nissan, or hey like the looks of the car, or a myriad of other reasons.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
An SUV is always more versatile than a sports car, tuned or not. No one is arguing that. His SUV may be quicker in a straight line than some sports cars. So what?

My first point is this - laughing at another car because yours can accelerate quicker is a fools game. There's almost always someone with more money that will have a faster car to destroy your ego. While bang for the acceleration buck is important to some it's not important to many.

My second point is this - not everyone cares about going fast in a straight line nor accelerating from a stop light. It's foolish and egotistical to laugh at those with slower cars.

My third point is - his SUV can't do it all. Put it on a road course and watch it flail and cook the brakes when driven by someone who knows how to drive. I've seen it at the tracks at which I teach.

I respect your opinion (even if I disagree with it) that you think the red sports is a failure. My opinion, just as valid, is that some will buy it and think it's a great car. We all have different wants and needs out of a vehicle.

Some will buy the new Z even if there are quicker cars for the $. This is because they're fans of Nissan, or hey like the looks of the car, or a myriad of other reasons.
Where were you when everyone here was ripping on Jaguar and calling it a piece of ****? I'm not a big fan of brand loyalty in general. No one should support a brand based on emotion.


You keep making the comparison between an SUV and a Sports car. I pointed that out to show how horrible this car is from a monetary value perspective.


We could start comparing it to competitor's in the 370z price range which would turn this into a blood bath.

370z vs Mustang GThttps://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/lomzfo1gzs18

Yes I realize older generation.

That car gets its ass kicked in every single statistic (even track performance)
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