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For those of you who don’t understand this;

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“A straw man (sometimes written as strawman) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the real subject of the argument was not addressed or refuted, but instead replaced with a false one.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".”

It shows character weakness when one does this, but I don’t have high hopes of most here reflecting on their own behavior, especially the atheist
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
Why would he be mad that you're a ****oid? I'm sure he's just fine. You however are hellbound.
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Still no answers Kraken...
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Honestly, went through this dilemma at 15 and became very depressed

I’ve always been an atheist

My reason to live, well if I offed myself my family would be sad

Also, I live to help others, that gives me purpose
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Originally Posted By snailsrus⏩
Honestly, went through this dilemma at 15 and became very depressed

I’ve always been an atheist

My reason to live, well if I offed myself my family would be sad

Also, I live to help others, that gives me purpose
Your only purpose is to die.
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Originally Posted By snailsrus⏩
Honestly, went through this dilemma at 15 and became very depressed

I’ve always been an atheist

My reason to live, well if I offed myself my family would be sad

Also, I live to help others, that gives me purpose
You have no purpose and any actions you take are inconsequential. Why do you atheists not understand this?
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
You have no purpose and any actions you take are inconsequential. Why do you atheists not understand this?
I can help others suffer less. Idk why that can’t be a purpose
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Originally Posted By snailsrus⏩
Honestly, went through this dilemma at 15 and became very depressed

I’ve always been an atheist

My reason to live, well if I offed myself my family would be sad

Also, I live to help others, that gives me purpose
Originally Posted By BrosefMengele⏩
Your only purpose is to die.
This is a pretty fked up response even if it isn't your intention.
Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
You have no purpose and any actions you take are inconsequential. Why do you atheists not understand this?
Atheists are not atheists because their actions are consequential or inconsequential, it is either because they hate God or the idea of God, or they do not see proof for the existence of God, or perhaps they have emotional/ethical difficulties and cannot reconcile them with the existence of a God which has supreme control of the universe.

If anything, I think atheists are happy with the idea that nothing actually matters, as that absolves the difficulties of reconciling evil with the existence of a God with control over everything in the universe.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
You have no purpose and any actions you take are inconsequential. Why do you atheists not understand this?
This is why i negged you. Brb don't believe in my same imaginary friend, better KYS because your life is irrelevant.

And you idiots think you hold the moral high ground lmao
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Originally Posted By snailsrus⏩
I can help others suffer less. Idk why that can’t be a purpose
Who cares about helping others suffering less?

You’re still operating under the presupposition that helping others is moral and just, and that it is good. There is no such thing as morality, or good and bad, as there is no objective measure in which to compare whether a behavior is good or bad and therefore moral and just. There is nothing.
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Originally Posted By DannStark⏩
This is why i negged you. Brb don't believe in my same imaginary friend, better KYS because your life is irrelevant.

And you idiots think you hold the moral high ground lmao
Lol, the only thing you did was give me a dopamine hit by showing how much I rustled your jim jams.

You have no moral ground because there is no such thing as objective morals you fool.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Still no answers Kraken...
Answer to what? To the original post? Or to the deflections and strawman arguments made throughout the thread?

Please be more specific

I think it’s been made clear the question to the OP’s post, and I believe that to be atheist find meaning in demoralizing good people and their excuse is that they have some kind of objective reality that no one else can see. They consider themselves the “enlightened ones“. Atheism huge contributor to the transition to Marxism and socialism. greatest evils in modern history have been committed by atheist voters and dictators Because they lack a moral compass that they replaced with some make-believe scientific moral compass

Prove me wrong without more deflections and strawman arguments.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Who cares about helping others suffering less?

You’re still operating under the presupposition that helping others is moral and just, and that it is good. There is no such thing as morality, or good and bad, as there is no objective measure in which to compare whether a behavior is good or bad and therefore moral and just. There is nothing.
From a non-religious perspective humans that cared about other humans and helped out their tribe/clan were more successful at reproduction than those that did not help each other out. Humans therefore evolved the desire to help and protect fellow humans like animals evolved motherly instincts. The ability to empathize has many survival benefits.

A religious person says that these feelings of right and wrong were written into the human brain upon design.
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
This is a pretty fked up response even if it isn't your intention.
She is a godless heathen. She was literally made to be destroyed. That's her purpose. Not trying to sound "fukked up", just stating the facts.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Answer to what? To the original post? Or to the deflections and strawman arguments made throughout the thread?

Please be more specific

I think it’s been made clear the question to the OP’s post, and I believe that to be atheist find meaning in demoralizing good people and their excuse is that they have some kind of objective reality that no one else can see. They consider themselves the “enlightened ones“. Atheism huge contributor to the transition to Marxism and socialism. greatest evils in modern history have been committed by atheist voters and dictators Because they lack a moral compass that they replaced with some make-believe scientific moral compass

Prove me wrong without more deflections and strawman arguments.
Scroll up and check my two replies to your posts
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
From a non-religious perspective humans that cared about other humans and helped out their tribe/clan were more successful at reproduction than those that did not help each other out. Humans therefore evolved the desire to help and protect fellow humans like animals evolved motherly instincts. The ability to empathize has many survival benefits.

A religious person says that these feelings of right and wrong were written into the human brain upon design.
Right but that doesn’t prove that those actions are “good”, since what is good, can’t be defined. If anything, we could take a page out of Dawkin’s book and call those behaviors ultimately selfish, since at the end of the day those behaviors are done for the sole purpose of passing on your genetic material.

Then we run into the conundrum of whether selfishness is good? Well that can’t be determined because there is objective measure of what good is in order to make a comparison.
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Originally Posted By Xgamer791⏩
It’s funny because your basically going to heaven, you’re religious and don’t even know it. Either way if you’re humble and do good in life you’re in.
What if you end up in Muslim hell? That will really suck for you.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele⏩
She is a godless heathen. She was literally made to be destroyed. That's her purpose. Not trying to sound "fukked up", just stating the facts.
From your perspective you should be kind and inviting. Since you believe in a higher purpose of life why would you throw it away to be rude and push someone further away from what you believe? How will God judge someone that is so rude to other humans? No one knows the circumstances of another's life or what personal darknesses and difficulties they have been through. Always be kind even if others disagree or are rude.


I'm out of this thread now.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Answer to what? To the original post? Or to the deflections and strawman arguments made throughout the thread?

Please be more specific

I think it’s been made clear the question to the OP’s post, and I believe that to be atheist find meaning in demoralizing good people and their excuse is that they have some kind of objective reality that no one else can see. They consider themselves the “enlightened ones“. Atheism huge contributor to the transition to Marxism and socialism. greatest evils in modern history have been committed by atheist voters and dictators Because they lack a moral compass that they replaced with some make-believe scientific moral compass

Prove me wrong without more deflections and strawman arguments.
When you said "no true Christian would blah blah" I knew you were an idiot.
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
This is a pretty fked up response even if it isn't your intention.





Atheists are not atheists because their actions are consequential or inconsequential, it is either because they hate God or the idea of God, or they do not see proof for the existence of God, or perhaps they have emotional/ethical difficulties and cannot reconcile them with the existence of a God which has supreme control of the universe.

If anything, I think atheists are happy with the idea that nothing actually matters, as that absolves the difficulties of reconciling evil with the existence of a God with control over everything in the universe.
Your delusion is entertaining
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
From your perspective you should be kind and inviting. Since you believe in a higher purpose of life why would you throw it away to be rude and push someone further away from what you believe? How will God judge someone that is so rude to other humans? No one knows the circumstances of another's life or what personal darknesses and difficulties they have been through. Always be kind even if others disagree or are rude.


I'm out of this thread now.
Stating facts is rude?
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights⏩
If I don’t believe in one of the thousands of gods worshipped on earth then I don’t have purpose? And your best defense is that it’s better err on the side of caution?

At least the lunatic brosefmengle puts effort into his reasons.
There arn’t thousands of gods just many different names for the same deitys.

I think Jesus is lord though and came to earth to teach us Natural Law.

Orthodox Catholicism is what stopped all the child sacrifices and other terrible things that were going on when Europeans were living in mud huts.

Look what they have accomplished since then. Seems like evidence enough for me that there is some truth to it.

Hard to believe all that success Europe had and the many accomplishments they achieved under Catholicism/Christianity was “mere coincidence”.





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Originally Posted By sLiPkNoT
When you said "no true Christian would blah blah" I knew you were an idiot.
Do you believe someone who simply says “I am a Christian“, is a real Christian, versus someone who does not admit to be a Christian but acts upon the teachings of Christ?

Now, do you believe that your post was productive in trying to learn from the experience and knowledge of others, or are you just out to insult and instigate evil in others?

I am not angry, resentful, nor upset. In fact, all this does is just fuel the fire of the passion of my own knowledge and actions.

I understand what’s happening on this forum. There are a lot of people who want to drive good people off the board. The board is dying, and I believe they are trying to drive out anyone who is conservative, Christian, or generally good so that we no longer have a platform to exchange these ideas.

Leftists Would love to shut down all forms of communication of anyone who is remotely conservative, right wing, or Christian.

And if you truly believe that you were indifferent, the know that you are actually making yourself the enemy of both sides and most likely in advertently creating evil whether you believe so or not.

There’s a good lecture by Peterson he talks about this, and part of the lecture was “if you were alive under Hitler, you would most likely be a Nazi“. Those who don’t have principles to stand on our easily swayed one way or another when coerced or pressured. Principles mean a lot, you have to be willing to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything
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These religious creeps like OP preaching are really weird. I should just die because I don't believe in your god? Wtf kinda dumb logic is that. If you're so convinced about your beliefs why do you constantly need to call out others to try and reaffirm them.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
These religious creeps like OP preaching are really weird. I should just die because I don't believe in your god? Wtf kinda dumb logic is that. If you're so convinced about your beliefs why do you constantly need to call out others to try and reaffirm them.
You're already dead.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Answer to what? To the original post? Or to the deflections and strawman arguments made throughout the thread?

Please be more specific

I think it’s been made clear the question to the OP’s post, and I believe that to be atheist find meaning in demoralizing good people and their excuse is that they have some kind of objective reality that no one else can see. They consider themselves the “enlightened ones“. Atheism huge contributor to the transition to Marxism and socialism. greatest evils in modern history have been committed by atheist voters and dictators because they lack a moral compass that they replaced with some make-believe scientific moral compass

Prove me wrong without more deflections and strawman arguments.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_t...and_Their_Lies
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
there is no such thing as objective morals you fool.
What else doesn't exist without religion? Do sht and roses smell the same because I don't believe in an ancient book? what about love and pain? what about eating fresh food as opposed to dead rats.

Some of you sound you'd be really lost without your imaginary friend, it's probably better for everyone else you have a strict set of written rules to keep you on a leash. Even if it means you're a pain in the ass for the rest of humanity.
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Originally Posted By EiFit91⏩
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_t...and_Their_Lies
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