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post 1645596213 08-24-2021, 04:22 AM
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Just wanted to share my observations from the field. I feel like firefighters, paramedics, ER nurses, etc. are typically in a good position to get a feel for what’s happening with public health.

I’m a firefighter/paramedic in a relatively large east coast department, ~120,000 calls per year. The following are just my observations. I don’t judge anyone for their decision to receive, or forgo getting the vaccine.

Since the rollout of the vaccines we have seen a significant number of patients who seem to be, or claim to be, experiencing severe adverse reactions to a vaccine. I don’t ask people about the vaccination status, that information has been offered up voluntarily in all cases.

I’m sure that in some of these instances, the relationship between their recent vaccination and current illness is purely coincidental, but it would be impossible for ALL of them to be coincidences.

The most concerning aspect of this has been the uptick in young/reasonably healthy people who experience acute illnesses shortly after vaccination.

I’ve seen more than a handful of healthy people in their 30’s complaining of chest pain, shortness of breath, or other cardiac symptoms, with pathological ECG’s, two of which were experiencing myocardial infarction. These conditions are EXTREMELY rare in the young/healthy population.

Additionally, I’ve seen patients in the same demographic present with stroke-like symptoms within a few days of their vaccination.

For the most part it’s been people complaining of oddball conditions like partial paralysis, tremors, and newly acquired facial or limb tics. Also an absolute ton of people saying they “just haven’t felt right” since their 2nd injection.

There have also been tons of patients with various acute illnesses shortly after receiving their vaccination who fall into our “typical” demographic...older, in poor health, obese, chronic health conditions, etc. These are the situations where it’s more difficult to confidently say that there’s a correlation with the vaccine. Perhaps these people would be calling 911 anyway, but it’s hard to ignore the possibility that at least some of these calls are vaccine related.
post 1645596353 08-24-2021, 04:30 AM
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Elaborate on "more than a handful."
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post 1645596423 08-24-2021, 04:33 AM
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Always good to hear different experiences. I'm on the fence leaning towards no vax (at least for now) but how many covid problems are you seeing compared to the vaccine related things where people say they wish they had been vaxed?
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post 1645596683 08-24-2021, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Elaborate on "more than a handful."
Referring to the otherwise healthy patients in their 30’s experiencing cardiac related symptoms? Probably a dozen or so.

In terms of total patients who appear or claim to be experiencing an adverse reaction? I couldn’t even begin to count how many. It’s nearly every shift these days.

And this is just in my firehouse’s first due area, doesn’t include the rest of th department.

This is why you’re seeing so many first responders, nurses, etc. who aren’t interested in getting vaccinated.
post 1645596843 08-24-2021, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted By BigNik78
Always good to hear different experiences. I'm on the fence leaning towards no vax (at least for now) but how many covid problems are you seeing compared to the vaccine related things where people say they wish they had been vaxed?
I can honestly say that I haven’t seen a single one of those cases. I couldn’t even recall when I saw the last legitimately sick covid patient. It’s been a months. And I work in an area that, according to the news/CDC, has had some of the highest covid numbers since the start of this thing.

We saw a bunch of sick people for a few months in the beginning but since then the covid patients we are seeing have largely been people who tested positive, and are scared so they call 911. Mostly minor symptoms.
post 1645596883 08-24-2021, 04:48 AM
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I’ve had a number of nurses who deal directly with covid patients tell me the vaccines don’t work. So no way I’m getting it.
post 1645596923 08-24-2021, 04:49 AM
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Yep. I also see it where I work too.

There is a massive ongoing coverup by gov and media(TV news and internet social media) about it, blackout on one hand and lies on the other.

Most people who've been jabbed do fine for the most part, but still the numbers of people having serious problems up to and including death shortly after being vaxxed are too high, and the coverup too evil.

Don't get me wrong - the virus itself is problematic as well and should be avoided like the plague - but that doesn't make this harm being done by vax OK and it especially doesn't make the coverup and LIES about it OK.

Also the vax are not very effective now on top of it all.
post 1645601753 08-24-2021, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable
I’ve had a number of nurses who deal directly with covid patients tell me the vaccines don’t work. So no way I’m getting it.
Same sentiment coming from the staff in our hospitals as well.
post 1645601993 08-24-2021, 07:01 AM
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Yeah we have a friend who has been a 911 dispatcher for 5+ years in a big city. She's definitely seen an uptick in calls from people who just got the jab in all demographics (read, healthy, young adults and teenagers).
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Well yeah, this IS a drug trial.

Lots of unknowns will become exposed over time..... Because we actually don't know chit about this vaccine yet.
post 1645602363 08-24-2021, 07:11 AM
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A coworker was vaccinated less than 2 weeks ago and had a heart attack yesterday. It was from a blood clot, but he's ok now.


I am not pointing fingers at the vaccine, but that's because he used to be a druggie. He's been through rehab and clean for like 7 years. He's a skinny dude, but he drinks around 4 bangs per day. Aside from that, he's just an average late 30s guy. He took the vaccine because the company i work for is doing a weekly raffle for $1k to anyone who gets the vaccine.
post 1645602423 08-24-2021, 07:12 AM
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I respect this OG join date miscer's post. Thanks for sharing, I've solidified my decision to not get the vax long ago, but it's great to see more information pouring out about the realities associated with getting vaxxed. Everyone needs to make their own decision for themselves.
post 1645602553 08-24-2021, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus
Firefighters now think they're medical professionals? JFL

stuck to putting fires out and saving cats.

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You do realize that most major fire departments are also their city's primary first responders for all medical calls and have their own EMT's/paramedics/ambulances, right?
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post 1645602583 08-24-2021, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Elaborate on "more than a handful."
That was my first question because all medicines and drugs have a percentage in the paperwork that had reactions in the studies. Lets say they test 1,000 people and 25 have problems. Things still get fda approval in spite of the numbers.

"Probably a dozen or so."
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post 1645602703 08-24-2021, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz
A coworker was vaccinated less than 2 weeks ago and had a heart attack yesterday. It was from a blood clot, but he's ok now.


I am not pointing fingers at the vaccine, but that's because he used to be a druggie. He's been through rehab and clean for like 7 years. He's a skinny dude, but he drinks around 4 bangs per day. Aside from that, he's just an average late 30s guy. He took the vaccine because the company i work for is doing a weekly raffle for $1k to anyone who gets the vaccine.
One serving of Bang® provides 300mg of caffeine which is more than two cups of coffee. Wow 1,200.
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post 1645602813 08-24-2021, 07:19 AM
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Never getting vaxxed crew. My body my choice.

If the vaccination was ever 100% concluded to be detrimental to your health, just LOL if you think MSM would ever let that headline. That reason ALONE is enough to never get this purely-political vaccine.
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Expect a lot more of this once people start getting boosters.

Just injecting more poison in themselves until they eventually die.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S
Expect a lot more of this once people start getting boosters.

Just injecting more poison in themselves until they eventually die.
This is my question.... Where do they draw the line? Shot #5? #6?

I stopped at #0, but these idiots have to see eventually that this is ridiculous.
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Shocked the 2 bitching at OP are forum libs!
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
This is my question.... Where do they draw the line? Shot #5? #6?

I stopped at #0, but these idiots have to see eventually that this is ridiculous.
I've seen people on ******** pleading for boosters already because it's been over 6 months since they got the vax and itmightnot be effective anymore. Frightened sheep gon be frightened sheep.
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Shut up and take the Jab!
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus
Firefighters now think they're medical professionals? JFL

stuck to putting fires out and saving cats.

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Yeah everybody knows the people who went to school for 8 years getting brainwashed as to how things are know way more than the people who have spent 8 years in the real world learning how they are. Retard.
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319
I've seen people on ******** pleading for boosters already because it's been over 6 months since they got the vax and itmightnot be effective anymore. Frightened sheep gon be frightened sheep.
Lmao.

Id use it as a learning experience that it didn't work.... People actually want more?
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what a cool story , may i tell it to my grandkids ? possibly upload it to a thumb drive and send it across the world to tell to kids in countries like Africa and India? Please give me permission op please . This story is too cool
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There are a lot of doctors, nurses, other roles in the medical field etc. that are experiencing the same but the majority are too afraid to speak out because they know they'll get "cancelled".
There is but one path....we kill them all.
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Originally Posted By 2Rude4MyOwnGood
I can honestly say that I haven’t seen a single one of those cases. I couldn’t even recall when I saw the last legitimately sick covid patient. It’s been a months. And I work in an area that, according to the news/CDC, has had some of the highest covid numbers since the start of this thing.

We saw a bunch of sick people for a few months in the beginning but since then the covid patients we are seeing have largely been people who tested positive, and are scared so they call 911. Mostly minor symptoms.
I have cousins that work as ER nurses, and also some friends from high school that work at hospitals, and they all have been saying that throughout this pandemic. This is in one of the largest metro areas in the country.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus
Not in Australia, and there is a huge difference between a paramedic and a Fire Fighter.

Paramedics aren't doctors either, HUGE different between a doctor and a paramedic...
We aren't in Kangarooland m8. Op literally says in the second paragraph that he is a firefighter/paramedic. Not just a firefighter with a little medical training. Big difference. Actual paramedics are very highly trained/skilled.

And do you trust everything a doctor says without question? Go ask your PCP about his thoughts on nutrition or weight lifting and get back to us on how all-knowing he is on all things health related just because he has "M.D." after his name.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine
We aren't in Kangarooland m8. Op literally says in the second paragraph that he is a firefighter/paramedic. Not just a firefighter with a little medical training. Big difference. Actual paramedics are very highly trained/skilled.

And do you trust everything a doctor says without question? Go ask your PCP about his thoughts on nutrition or weight lifting and get back to us on how all-knowing he is on all things health related just because he has "M.D." after his name.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
Fortunately we don't live in the 1920s anymore, that was 100 years ago. The world has moved on. Your genius Americans used to die of food poisoning from your supermarkets.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus
Firefighters now think they're medical professionals? JFL

stuck to putting fires out and saving cats.

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