Jesus christ youre a shill and should be at the very least removed from this forum. IVM and HCQ are GENERIC there is effectively ZERO money to be made.

Ooof, does that come with a dose of ether?

I think hillary said it best....never let a good crisis go to waste.

I was trying to tell a very educated family member about this podcast and what Malone said. They legit cut off the conversation and didn't want to hear it.

Bruh reading some of this chit is mind boggling.

It's insane how utterly and completely brainwashed these guys are.

Forbes did a take on Malone's appearance:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...h=f537791d4cec

"Bartlett’s article and others have questioned Malone’s continuing claims that he was the “Inventor of mRNA vaccines and DNA vaccines.” Making such claims on LinkedIn is not quite the same as saying that you are a “passionate thought leader who is driven to activate synergies and change” or something like that. You’ve got to provide real proof that you indeed were the “inventor.” Meanwhile, here is what Eric Topol, MD, founder and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, tweeted about Malone back in July:"





"Malone, who has listed himself as the “Inventor of mRNA vaccines and DNA vaccines” on his LinkedIn account, appeared on Joe Rogan’s Spotify podcast shortly after being permanently booted from Twitter last week. On the podcast, Malone began talking about his background and then Covid-19 vaccines before segueing to Nazi Germany. Because who doesn’t talk about Nazi Germany when talking about Covid-19 these days, right? Malone began this part of the conversation by asking Rogan, “What the heck happened to Germany in the 20s and 30s? Very intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad. And how did that happen?”"

"Since this wasn’t an episode of the TV show Jeopardy, Malone quickly answered his own question with, “The answer is mass formation psychosis.”

Malone continued with “When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don’t make sense, we can’t understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of events on one small point just like hypnosis, they literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere.”

Hmm, by “can be lead anywhere,” did Malone mean like believing conspiracy theories like those about Covid-19 and Covid-19 vaccines?

Malone then described how “leaders” can exploit this situation: “And one of the aspects of that phenomenon is that the people that they identify as their leaders, the ones typically that come in and say you have this pain and I can solve it for you. I and I alone.” Malone further explained, “Then they will follow that person. It doesn’t matter whether they lied to them or whatever. The data is irrelevant.”

"Let’s see. A leader lying to followers and making data irrelevant? Has that ever happened in the U.S.? "



"Some social media accounts have been asking people “please share this far and wide” with “this” being a video of Rogan’s interview of Malone:"

"Gee, telling someone to share a video “far and wide” could work really well among people afflicted with what kind of condition again?"

The most effective conspiracy theories have at least a kernel of truth. It would be reasonable to postulate that many in the U.S. have been more susceptible to suggestion, influence, and bad actors.

It would also be reasonable to say that certain political leaders and TV personalities have been taking advantage of this susceptibility. Stoking fears and division can certainly further promote “mass formation whatever-you-want-to-call-it.”

And one way to do that is to evoke images of Nazi Germany when everyone instead should really be focused on fighting against covid that has already killed over 800,000 Americans.

I haven't listened to it yet, but as far as I understood, I have never heard him say he "invented mrna VACCINES"....I have only heard him say he invented the mrna technology that is used in the vaccines. I have never heard him say he was involved in the development of covid vaccines.

I have however seen a lot of articles and posts saying "Malone is lying that he created the vaccines"...which would be true if he actually did claim to have invented the covid vaccines. But again, I have never heard him say that, and they are 2 different things. People posting countless articles discrediting him for something he himself didn't say, but the articles themselves made up, is ridiculous.

I say this without hearing the podcast, so not sure if he made that claim there or not, but I doubt it. I imagine he only claimed to be responsible for the tech used to create the covid vaccines, which is a very different claim than making the vaccines themselves.

Will listen in the next few days.

Check out his LinkedIn page:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwmalonemd/




"Most real scientists recognize the fact that major scientific breakthroughs rarely have a single inventor.

Suggesting in any way that you were the sole inventor (or even the inventor) of mRNA and DNA vaccines would be a bit like suggesting that you were the sole inventor of dating apps. Real science doesn’t work the way that it’s been portrayed by Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies.

One person isn’t the only one to come up with an idea and then disappear into a fully-equipped, self-funded lab by himself or herself to then later emerge with the solution.

Instead, many people have been working on mRNA technology for many, many years. The currently available mRNA vaccines are the results of contributions from multiple people in different locations over time. In fact, who knows how many unsung students, post-docs, lab staff, and other scientists may have been involved yet never get the credit that they deserve.

After all, many of these other unsung folks haven’t had the over 200,000 Twitter followers that Malone has. "

I'll take Malone's track record for accuracy a lot further than a journalist from Forbes that asks questions in the form below:

"Let’s see. A leader lying to followers and making data irrelevant? Has that ever happened in the U.S.? Gee, have political leaders ever actually lied?

Where’s that look of shock emoji?"

Hard to discredit someone based on a single attack point while typing out yet another word-filled substance-less article.

Actually listen to the 2-1/2 hour full history breakdown and the part where he says "I'm giving you the information, it's up to you to think for yourself." No other "leaders" who have been doing these mandates have been taking that protocol.

^^^
Strong this. I was generally aware of most of it, but didn't have specific examples/details.Mass Formation Psychosis- serioushttps://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1653587143

It's sort of like trying to wake up a person who is sleepwalking. You can talk to them and they may seem to make noises in response, but critical thinking is not engaged.And IIRC Malone was talking about a treatment trial being done bythe Department of Defense. Said that they wanted to include ivermectin as part of the trial and the FDA was completely unwilling to allow any tenable trial that included ivermectin.Put in the time to watch this podcast. It matters. He addresses the attack pieces which mainly stem from a piece done by the Atlantic which was funded by J&J and Zuckerberg [********].

If that wasn't clear enough- Malone claims that supporters of the mrna injections PAID for the article that is being circulated which smears and attempts to discredit him.

the retards that trust the science and FAUCI

FAUCI said aids was airborn in the 80s/90s and transmissible, that you could catch it by being in the same room as someone with the virus

NEXT THING DATA AND SCIENCE SAID DIFFERENT -FAUCI ARGUED AGAINST THE DATA

HONK HONK

if people believe that face scientist and the BS he spews as facts

history repeats itself if you want to learn from the past you retards for the fake vaxx.

would you be defending him then too? if you were living in that time?

Aussie PM:

The Prime Minister will press premiers for a uniform definition of Covid hospitalisations — after it was revealed that hundreds of patients listed as hospitalised were not taken to hospital because of the virus at all.

The NSW Health Health Minister that many of those listed in the daily statistics are simply testing positive in routine checks after being admitted for broken bones, labour pains or even mental health issues. Queensland Health has a similar reporting process in place.

The Prime Minister, who has often said to look at rate of hospitalisation and deaths as a true indicator of the disease’s impact rather than raw case numbers, confirmed today he will be talking to premiers about the definition of a hospitalisation due to virus.

“I make the point on hospitalisation, and this is one of the things we’re going to have to discuss this week, I’m heading down to Canberra today, with the premiers is this definition of hospitalisation,” he told the Today Show.

“There are people being counted as being in hospital for Covid. They didn‘t go there for Covid. They went there for some other reason and that’s why they were admitted, and they’ve been tested when they’re there and they’ve been found to have Covid.

“So, we need to get a standard definition on that because these are the key things we have to track now.”

As of this morning there were 1204 people with Covid in hospital in NSW, with 95 in ICU.

Brad Hazzard admitted over two days during the week, up to half of those cases were in hospital for something else entirely — raising questions about how hospitalisation figures are reported.

“A reasonable proportion of cases being classified as Covid hospitalisations are actually people with other reasons for admission,” NSW health minister Brad Hazzard said.

“Heart attacks, births, falls, none of that stops just because there is Covid. They come into hospital, they have a swab taken and it confirms Covid.

“This shows us its out in the community, but we aren’t necessarily seeing that as the primary reason for all of the admissions.”

My oldest sibling has a phd and didn't want me to see my nephew because i'm not vaccinated.

I personally wrote the whole thing off when i went to the cdc website, and saw the survival rates for people under 40 was 99.991%. Then about a month later i saw CNN running a whole segment on how the vaccines INCREASE YOUR CHANCES FOR SURVIVAL BY 99%. Then they showed the survival percentage of 99.9991%

That's right. If you're healthy and under 40 your chances for survival go from 99.991% to 99.9991% (plus any side effects). And they're trying to mandate people take this?Give the vaccines to the old people and phatties and fuk off.I literally can't comprehend the vaccination shaming thats going on in the world today. Not to mention I just had covid recovered perfectly fine, and a teacher friend of mine has been fully vaccinated for months and she got fuked up by covid far worse than i did.



I won't even consider getting the vaccine until Novavax gets approved in the USA. It uses the same age-old technology that's in the hepatitis vaccine (which i have). As someone else said, most of us aren't anti-vax we're anti "blindly follow the heard/mandates without looking at data"

If you had actually bothered to watch the podcast you would have known he says it himself, hes not the SOLE inventor of mRNA vaccines.

that is because they are not true liberals by definition. conservatives now are the real liberals. they are pro freedom. the far left is totalitarian. lol if you are allowed to think

A voice of reason amongst a shriek for control.

honestly, at this point i'm just taking anything that anybody says with a grain of salt, that includes everybody on both sides of the fence and in between. but mass censorship, stifling of dissenting opinions, character assassinations, vaccine mandates, lockdowns, coercion tactics, gaslighting, masking children, demonizing potentially life saving treatments, dumb catch phrases like "trust the science" are things I could never agree with. anything coming from the CDC or WHO or Dr Fauci as they have proven time and time again are not to be trusted. Or corrupt as chit corporations like Pfizer whom lefties/liberal types a decade ago will have at least questioned the money trail and big pharma but are now shilling for them.

but i'll say this, despite all that I said above, it's also easy to fall into the trap of believing grifters and frauds on the other side because some of what they say conveniently aligns with your point of view so you don't really question other things that may be said. now, I don't know if all, or even much of what Malone claims and says are correct. certainly some of what he says has already played out and is existent. I only know my own principles at the end of the day. nowadays you can't really trust what anybody has to say because it seems like everybody has their own agenda and is using the pandemic to get their piece of the pie.

So much this

Echoing many of the posts above:

The JRE with Dr. Malone should be listened to by everyone - left, right and moderate. There’s no reason to not hear fact points and data from the opposite side of the fence. This is the scientific method. Much to Fauci’s chagrin, this is how science works.

However, those with a scientific background (NYPatricia’s article cherry picking doesn’t count) will benefit the most from this podcast. Plenty is laid out in layman’s terms, but I can see how those whose last encounter with biology was in high school may misconstrue several of the talking points.

you don't even have to trust the right. it shouldn't be about that. just listen to the left - and the points you have made. that is enough on its to question everything

it is about the left being a bunch of lying kunts for the last 2 years. and the lying they have done, moving the goal posts, and everyone on the left siding with them only because of political alignment. not because they actually believe the BS science they are coming out with - which isn't even science. twisting numbers to push their narrative.

lol you have a 99.91% chance of surviving without the jab, but you have a 99.99% with it. what a load of horsesh*t. and they closed down the country for this?

EXACTLY, which is why people UNDER 40 should be uprising at this point, your future is at stake and everyone seems to be lying down and taking it. I feel especially bad for the kids, they have no advocates right now, they are the one who will truly feel the brunt of all this, years down the line, the negative ramifications will come to light fully.

Furthermore, you can see the politicians getting ready to mandate the vaccine in kids, people better rise up when this happens, if they don't, I will have lost all faith in humanity.

Joe doing god's work allowing people that are cancelled or censored to have a meaningful conversation

Almost six pages and the only argument from the mudbloods so far is that Dr Malone isn't the sole inventor of the tech which he says the same thing in the interview. JLC went on to say that he isn't the inventor at all.

You should probably look into the 9 patents he has on the tech.

the vax guys fully trust phizer, phizer would never release a product that could hurt them , and that phizer is a non profit that’s focused on health and not $

We've established that Robert Malone is not the sole proprietor of mRNA vaccines, thanks to our pharma shills for clarifying. Now if you can start to move on to other things he discussed that'd be great.

I have it on record that Fauchi said you should be wary about AIDS transmitting by virtue of living in the same household as someone - can someone point out a statement made by Malone in the entire podcast that is 1/1000th as insane and baseless as this claim was?

Mass formation psychosis. They really are this weak minded.

Malone joined a research team at the Salk Institute that had studied RNA expression / transcription as a grad student, before falling out with his supervisor and moving to a start-up. He did not complete his PhD. The Salk work produced a 1989 paper on RNA transfection with Malone as first author “Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection”:https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/86/16/6077.full.pdf.

In biology authorship etiquette, that is the usual position for the student who did the experiments, under the direction of the laboratory leader who assigned the topic and becomes the last author (Salk director Inder Verma). It’s likely the research was actually coordinated by the middle-author and vaccine developer Philip Felgner.

Malone was also an author of a second paper from 1990, from Felgner’s Vical start-up “Direct Gene Transfer into Mouse Muscle in Vivo”:https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.1690918.

Malone and Glasspool worked on injecting DNA as a vaccine (to be absorbed by recipient cells, expressed as mRNA, and then transcribed as protein)… which is why he described himself in 2019 on his promotional website, as “one of the inventors of DNA vaccination”.

His name appeared next to Felgner and others as one inventor on Vical patents US-7250404-B2 (https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US-7250404-B2) and US6867195B1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US6867195B1/en) (inter alia) on therapeutic applications of injectable mRNA, including its use as a vaccine: instructions for cells in the recipient’s body to assemble a protein, to elicit an immune response (rather than injecting the protein directly).

In the absence of crucial details for implementing that concept (like stabilising the mRNA molecules and tailoring them to look less virus-like to one’s immune defenses), the patents held little value, and duly expired in 2006. They do not appear in Nature‘s display of mRNA intellectual inter-dependence:



Point being that according to him, he played a crucual role in developing mRNA vaccines and this is why you must trust him when he warns those vaccines are deadly. Instead, to protect yourself against COVID-19 you should take ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, fluvoxamine, Vitamin D and of course the hurt-burn drug famotidine.

I thought that the Nature article (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w) was balanced in describing Malone’s significant contribution to mRNA technology, and his unraveling role in science.

Going from his crude encapsulation of RNA into lipid particles, to rejecting mRNA-based vaccines as dangerous experiments 34 years later, is quite a change. Along the way, he seems to have become pretty upset at people who pursued his line of work. The Misc is familiar with the history of mRNA vaccines (the Nature article goes back pretty far) and how it appeared as a fruitless approach, too difficult to be worth any effort. Surely Malone dropped whatever enthusiasm he had, too.

That's the thing.

I think it's entirely possible to not trust Pfizer/Moderna/whoever OR Malone/McCullough/whoever. I can't imagine any of them have my best interests in mind.

Creating the false dichotomy by insisting people pick a "leader" to follow is the strategy. It seems to be working quite well.

Every single person I know that is not vaxxed has said 100% for sure they would not hesitate to get a "traditional" vaccine for covid.

Many of the people I know who are vaxxed have said they would have preferred to have taken a "traditional" vaccine if it were available.

Roll out a new, untested technology with unknown long term effects, punish people for having instincts against it.

i am not surprised there is no uprising. have you seen the state of the modern man? they are all feminised simps with lower test than the average woman. all acting on their emotions and virtue signalling.

women follow the vaxx MSM BS - it is all about "protect the vulnerable" - so they feel they should do that. then the simp men follow suit

pathetic. zero backbone

it's as if it was all planned

same goes for the blm, trans BS movements out there. no balls today in the modern man. they stand for nothing. and accept anything pushed upon them