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post 1654615323 01-19-2022, 03:10 PM
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Yeah...

Spoiler!





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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
American taxpayer's dollars funded Chinese scientists working in a lab with safety problems to make already dangerous coronaviruses more contagious and more deadly to humans.

Let that sink in
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Already released the last few days.

New to me:

The two doctors that first said they believed the virus came from a lab and then reversed that position [Nature article] got big fat grants from Fauci to study the virus.

Implying that they were paid off.
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post 1654615613 01-19-2022, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I guess I'm wondering about the definition of jabcel. I thought it was a person who received a vaccine. But this video isn't related to vaccines, so I don't get the relevance to jabcels.
I'm not going to connect the dots for you. Do you have kids in elementary school? Ask them to explain the relation to you.
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post 1654615793 01-19-2022, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By gainztrain818
Vaxxcels take another one in the Angus.
How so?
post 1654615843 01-19-2022, 03:19 PM
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Idk when I posted it. Idk if it was the exact article he was referencing

But I remember being on misc talking about the article that examined the DNA backbone. And I remember they said that it was too pure. That it would have happened naturally

And I was like ummm... if it's too pure that's Def. More evidence it's manmade...in a lab. Because you can control way more inputs and outputs in a lab.

Would be interested to know if I said that in October or March or something. Most likely it was after thar article became mainstream though

But I know I was arguing directly against what that science said
post 1654616053 01-19-2022, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
How so?
I'm sorry for your loss.
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post 1654616413 01-19-2022, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
jabcel - someone that considers any current news about vaccination to be correct, even if it conflicts with multiple old narratives and will inject an unlimited number of vaccines trusting that reasons given for doing so are solely based on health and nothing else
Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig
its related to the exact events that pushed us to needing these vaccines... no thoughts or comments on that?
There is no logical reason why the value of vaccines would be related to whether the virus was natural or man made.

They are separate questions of fact. I know politically motivated people on both sides like to package up independent matters of fact into packages of belief that you have to accept or reject all of regardless of their individual merits.

In fact the lab leak scenario should have actually increased the chances of vaccines being useful and effective, since there would be a big head start on a lab created virus that people have been studying for years vs something new that came out of nowhere.
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
There is no logical reason why the value of vaccines would be related to whether the virus was natural or man made.
How about if they lied about one, why not the other? What makes you think lying isn't their default setting, instead of this one exception?
post 1654617103 01-19-2022, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
There is no logical reason why the value of vaccines would be related to whether the virus was natural or man made.

They are separate questions of fact. I know politically motivated people on both sides like to package up independent matters of fact into packages of belief that you have to accept or reject all of regardless of their individual merits.

In fact the lab leak scenario should have actually increased the chances of vaccines being useful and effective, since there would be a big head start on a lab created virus that people have been studying for years vs something new that came out of nowhere.
(People): Create and releases a virus that infects and kills millions globally

(Same people) : Create something they say you should/need to take to not die.

Seems legit. I'll do what ever they say!
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post 1654617913 01-19-2022, 03:53 PM
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Lol professors around here were publicly claiming it from the start. Not sure how raw dogging some lab made chinese virus is better than using american made protection against it though
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
There is no logical reason why the value of vaccines would be related to whether the virus was natural or man made.
The mental gymnastics required to declare these two things as unrelated is truly fking astounding.
Originally Posted By Joseph1990
(People): Create and releases a virus that infects and kills millions globally

(Same people) : Create something they say you should/need to take to not die.

Seems legit. I'll do what ever they say!
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Not a conspiracy theorist at all, but IMO covid is 100% engineered.


Not saying it was released on purpose, but probably a lab accident or security breach. This virus is way too fuken versatile for being a "natty virus".
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
This is all covered in detail in the What Really Happened in Wuhan book that I am reading right now.

https://www.amazon.com.au/What-Reall.../dp/B094GHJK9L

- 2012 Fauci publishes article defending his extensive funding of controversial and unpopular research to make animal viruses more dangerous and contagious to humans

- 2014 Obama, not convinced by this, bans US conduct or funding of gain of function virus research'

- 2017 Fauci, without asking or discussing with new administration, resumes funding gain of function virus research, sending huge amounts of money to Wuhan Institute of Virology to do this work

- 2020 Fauci called into the room to help Trump admin address the new pandemic, never mentions in any meetings the work that he was funding in Wuhan

- 2020/21 Fauci collaborates with allies to shut down lab leak theories and argue that "science" supports natural origin




But OP I don't know why you use "jabcel" in your thread title. This is about natural origincels not jabcels.
Getting yourself injected with experimental substances to 'protect' against a manmade virus is ****ing retarded at best
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So is America asshoe?
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Originally Posted By katya422
^^^
Already released the last few days.

New to me:

The two doctors that first said they believed the virus came from a lab and then reversed that position [Nature article] got big fat grants from Fauci to study the virus.

Implying that they were paid off.
Does the book say anything about motivation behind all this? seems to be a lose lose lose situation for everyone
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Doesn’t everyone with an IQ over 5 know this was most likely released accidentally from a lab?


So what do people want here? You want Fauci to be locked up for something he had no part in? We don’t lock up the McDonald’s ceo if a worker goes crazy and attacks someone.


Republicans are so scared of Fauci is unbelievable. Instead they will support Gym Jordan who will burn in hell when he dies.
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post 1654622993 01-19-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By P51
I didn't watch or listen to the video. I am a ghey dying idian.
Not sure what that last part has to do with anything but you should consider watching or listening to the video in the OP.
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post 1654623323 01-19-2022, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By P51
Doesn’t everyone with an IQ over 5 know this was most likely released accidentally from a lab?


So what do people want here? You want Fauci to be locked up for something he had no part in? We don’t lock up the McDonald’s ceo if a worker goes crazy and attacks someone.


Republicans are so scared of Fauci is unbelievable. Instead they will support Gym Jordan who will burn in hell when he dies.
I want Fauci and others put on trial for their advanced knowledge of the situation, for their failure to provide accurate honest information to the public, for lying to the public and manipulating stats to pump up the fear, for canceling doctors and scientists that were asking questions.

But most of all for denying and outright lying about early treatments and denying dying people with those treatments in order to push an experimental drug. Not only denying their effectiveness but starting a manipulation campaign designed to create distrust in said products.
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Originally Posted By P51
So what do people want here? You want Fauci to be locked up for something he had no part in? We don’t lock up the McDonald’s ceo if a worker goes crazy and attacks someone.
Fauci funded the creation of the virus with US taxpayer dollars, against the wishes of one president and without the knowledge of another.

He then covered up his involvement when it all went horribly wrong, and used his position as the fund holder for many medical researchers to force them to come out in support of a natural origin theory and claim the lab leak theory was a discredited conspiracy.

Is that something someone should be locked up for?
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus
Does the book say anything about motivation behind all this? seems to be a lose lose lose situation for everyone
Follow the money brah.
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
Fauci funded the creation of the virus with US taxpayer dollars, against the wishes of one president and without the knowledge of another.

He then covered up his involvement when it all went horribly wrong, and used his position as the fund holder for many medical researchers to force them to come out in support of a natural origin theory and claim the lab leak theory was a discredited conspiracy.

Is that something someone should be locked up for?
No, I think we should instead make him the defacto leader of the world and trust whatever he says because grandma is dying. /s
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I guess I'm wondering about the definition of jabcel. I thought it was a person who received a vaccine. But this video isn't related to vaccines, so I don't get the relevance to jabcels.
Jabcels worship Tony Fauci


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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Jabcels worship Tony Fauci


More bad news for jabcels
Indeed.

But, worshipping anyone, especially a politician, is kinda silly to begin with.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
No. Unless you are a total conspiracy theorist.

China has hidden everything from day 1. They wouldn’t have hide it, if it was our fault. They would be celebrating it.

More than likely we funded something close to this, or something around this and China decided to run some off the books chit and someone fd up.

Fauci isn’t a criminal despite what whacko poorbloods that want to burn him at the stake say, but he oversees some stuff that the general public wouldn’t be happy about given the pandemic.
Imagine defending fauci in 2022 lmao, just lmao.

Imagine working on the "next pound" for 2 years still not getting it. lmao, just lmao.

Spoiler!
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Originally Posted By NextPound
That would be convenient, but very unlikely to be the case because it's far simpler than this.
Regardless of convenience or otherwise it is exactly what happened. Those particular details of Fauci's involvement are documented matters of record.
Fauci was probably enjoying his couple years of fame, but he will be a scapegoat in the end for stuff he probably didn't really have anything to do with other than broadly overseeing. Ultimately, this train probably got in motion long before him, and if it wasn't him it would have been someone else.
This seems like a pretty relaxed standard to hold public officials to.
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What a dumb cuckservative talking point srs. The damage that was done to the American people was done by the American government through lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and money printing, not by the Chinese government through lying about the flu.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
What a dumb cuckservative talking point srs. The damage that was done to the American people was done by the American government through lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and money printing, not by the Chinese government through lying about the flu.
If you had more than 30iq, you'd realize we are past blaming the Chinese already....

This has to do with people committing treason and betraying their citizens/country at this point.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
That would be convenient, but very unlikely to be the case because it's far simpler than this. The United States and other countries fund things that they don't want the public to know about because it's in our national (security) interest. Hence the reason for classified material.

Government's also weigh pros and cons in their messaging and what is in the best interest of those governed - that is government speak for they do things to not incite mass hysteria or anger.

Finally, when you go back and use measures designed over a decade ago (1918), that means you have no f'ing clue what to do or what is going to happen.

Fauci was probably enjoying his couple years of fame, but he will be a scapegoat in the end for stuff he probably didn't really have anything to do with other than broadly overseeing. Ultimately, this train probably got in motion long before him, and if it wasn't him it would have been someone else.
This. People act like Fauci was personally making Covid. Thank god someone has common sense in this topic.
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Originally Posted By NextPound
No. Unless you are a total conspiracy theorist.

China has hidden everything from day 1. They wouldn’t have hide it, if it was our fault. They would be celebrating it.

More than likely we funded something close to this, or something around this and China decided to run some off the books chit and someone fd up.

Fauci isn’t a criminal despite what whacko poorbloods that want to burn him at the stake say, but he oversees some stuff that the general public wouldn’t be happy about given the pandemic.
Really?…. So fauci didn’t fund that lab in Wuhan? I’m srsly asking, because if fauci wasn’t actually behind this, my distain would subside, and some hope in America would restore.
Originally Posted By P51
This. People act like Fauci was personally making Covid. Thank god someone has common sense in this topic.
If I’m funding/managing a construction project, cut corners, and hire retards that kill people with shotty work, I’m still responsible. But this isn’t even hiring a bad electrician, this is creating a damn super virus.
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Been watching these hearing for months. Very shocking stuff, fauci is shook every time. Even many CDC employees are not getting vaxx and some even quit.
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