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Thread: Inceldom in South Korea is so bad, it's now an official political subject there.

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https://unherd.com/2022/02/will-ince...reas-election/

"How have the country’s conservatives been able to regroup in just five years?

A major reason for this resurgence is the sharp conservative turn of young South Korean men, who are increasingly animated by aggressive misogyny and anti-feminism. These young men have found their champion in Lee Jun-seok, a 36-year-old, Harvard-educated political pundit who became the leader of the conservative opposition party last summer. Warning of the “totalitarian tendency” of feminism and accusing the ruling Democratic Party of fixating on a “pro-woman agenda”, Lee and his supporters have injected a jolt of energy into the South Korean Right."

"South Korea’s fertility rate, which fell to 0.84 births per woman in 2020, is the lowest in the world."

Absolutely brutal:

"In a 2021 study that surveyed residents of Seoul,only 58% of men in their 20s said they had had sex in the past year, a lower rate than for men in their 60s.The numbers were similar among women in their 20s, but for a different reason.While most celibate men said they didn’t have sex because they couldn’t find a partner, most celibate women said it was because they had no interest in sex."


"Korean conservatives have found a new lease on life by appealing to sexism and male grievance politics. If Yoon Seok-yeol does prevail on 9 March, his victory will be touted as the triumph of anti-feminism. That will be an ominous sign for South Korea’s future."

Damn, Kpop doesn't seem to work golden bull brahs, seems they are all lusting after white lions.



On a serious note: this trend is happening around the world, South Korea and Japan are just ahead the curve.
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People keep dismissing the mice experiment but here we are with declining birth rates and selfies.
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Women just hate conservative men. The leftie Brazilians and Africans aren't struggling with this.
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they had no interest in sex
How are they not digging deeper into this statement? That chit aint healthy
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
How are they not digging deeper into this statement? That chit aint healthy
I view it as the same as the mice experiment where the mice spend all day grooming themselves and looking in the mirror instead of breeding

It’s like selfies and TikTok and idol filters and chit
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
How are they not digging deeper into this statement? That chit aint healthy
This.

After I finished reading I couldn't help but think it doesn't say what OP is hoping it says. You have one party that is against the feminization of men. Then you have another that isn't interested in sex. You can't conflate the two and force it to say that the women aren't interested because of feminized men. Just look at the videos of them gushing over KPop stars. Traditionally masculine men wouldn't make them want sex any more than they do now.
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
How are they not digging deeper into this statement? That chit aint healthy
Maybe because young south korean men imitate turbo lesbians from all the kpop they watch?



Who'd think women aren't sexually attracted to that...
Originally Posted By PTzFree⏩
This.

After I finished reading I couldn't help but think it doesn't say what OP is hoping it says. You have one party that is against the feminization of men. Then you have another that isn't interested in sex. You can't conflate the too and force it to say that the women aren't interested because of feminized men. Just look at the videos of them gushing over KPop stars. Traditionally masculine men wouldn't make them want sex any more than they do now.
They see kpop stars as their best friend but not as actual sexual partners.

Think about it, South Korea and especially Seoul is FULL of kpop guys yet they're the most sexless of all and women even say they aren't interested in sex.
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asian countries are like 10 years ahead in manmade horrors beyond our comprehension. very godless continent
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
How are they not digging deeper into this statement? That chit aint healthy
Isn't the average south Korean guy a short lankcel who plays starcraft for so long they suffer from seizures all while trying to look as feminine as possible? Probably a good answer that doesn't need investigation.

I'd bet the ROK Marines aren't having issues getting laid.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
They see kpop stars as their best friend but not as actual sexual partners.

Think about it, South Korea and especially Seoul is FULL of kpop guys yet they're the most sexless of all and women even say they aren't interested in sex.
That's what Shysty and I are saying. OP is conflating the two to meet some MGTOW ideologue. The problem is that's not what these stats are saying and is exactly what you pointed out - even the most attractive "men" in their eyes aren't getting them wet. There's something far more biologically sinister going on.

inb4 their entire gene pool goes extinct due to lack of reproduction
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337⏩
asian countries are like 10 years ahead in manmade horrors beyond our comprehension. very godless continent
that's fairly interesting. cause its kinda what i was thinking

that's about the timeline when i think chit is gonna be worse here

i'm 31 and i think my generation is the true 1st social media generation. i think when these females are 35 it's gonna start. so that's 4 years from now. and 10 years from now the generation before them will be entering it while my generation is in the heavy hands of it. and then the girls that are like 18 now will still be affected. but the younger generations than that may see the fuk ups from the older generations and change

i think chits gonna get bad when these females realities come crashing down on them

the thing that makes this especially worse is that more women are educated and continue to be so there will be more female leaders
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Originally Posted By PTzFree⏩
That's what Shysty and I are saying. OP is conflating the two to meet some MGTOW ideologue. The problem is that's not what these stats are saying and is exactly what you pointed out - even the most attractive "men" in their eyes aren't getting them wet. There's something far more biologically sinister going on.

inb4 their entire gene pool goes extinct due to lack of reproduction
Okay then we agree.

But it's fcking sad and an absolute disaster. Men need incentives to work, especially for harder jobs, take away sex and women... Say goodbye to civil society.

Same happening in the west, although at a slower pace.

Real estate will also collapse in a couple of decades since population will sharply decline.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Okay then we agree.

But it's fcking sad and an absolute disaster. Men need incentives to work, especially for harder jobs, take away sex and women... Say goodbye to civil society.

Same happening in the west, although at a slower pace.

Real estate will also collapse in a couple of decades since population will sharply decline.
Agreed - they're just a few steps ahead. Judging my the current political climate in the west, it's only a matter of time.
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Originally Posted By PTzFree⏩
This.

After I finished reading I couldn't help but think it doesn't say what OP is hoping it says. You have one party that is against the feminization of men. Then you have another that isn't interested in sex. You can't conflate the two and force it to say that the women aren't interested because of feminized men. Just look at the videos of them gushing over KPop stars. Traditionally masculine men wouldn't make them want sex any more than they do now.
They have no interest in sex because the women are trash.

You never laid in bed while some girl talked to you about trans rights or blm? You look at the girl with a feeling of disgust.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
that's fairly interesting. cause its kinda what i was thinking

that's about the timeline when i think chit is gonna be worse here

i'm 31 and i think my generation is the true 1st social media generation. i think when these females are 35 it's gonna start. so that's 4 years from now. and 10 years from now the generation before them will be entering it while my generation is in the heavy hands of it. and then the girls that are like 18 now will still be affected. but the younger generations than that may see the fuk ups from the older generations and change

i think chits gonna get bad when these females realities come crashing down on them
Agreed, we will see an epidemic of depressed harpies raging 24/7 because they'll finally understand feminism fcked them over.

Different old post I made:

Suicide rates rising faster for women than men

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...=1603537006722

Especially for older women.

Their glow eventually disappears and they finally get treated as men but they can't handle it.

Women are also getting unhappier with life:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness

By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate thatwomen's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men.


Men are happier in life than women

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ppearance.html

Women also taking more SSRI's than ever to cope with life

Women are twice as likely to use antidepressants compared to men

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...sants-men.html




But muh feminism and liberalism was supposed to make women happier?!!!!!!


Message to feminists:

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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Agreed, we will see an epidemic of depressed harpies raging 24/7 becausethey'll finally understand feminism fcked them over.
No, they'll just double down on blaming men.
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So we need to go over there and jumpstart the birthrate? K.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
No, they'll just double down on blaming men.
Lol true, so true...
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
People keep dismissing the mice experiment but here we are with declining birth rates and selfies.
You keep bringing it up, we're all kind of familiar with it but you should link that chit bro
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
I view it as the same as the mice experiment where the mice spend all day grooming themselves and looking in the mirror instead of breeding

It’s like selfies and TikTok and idol filters and chit
Probably. I don’t think men and women in South Korea are obese or ugly enough to pass having sex. It’s just this fascination with the online persona , pictures, profiles, etc.

At least we’re all still having sex, right guys.. guise?
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
No, they'll just double down on blaming men.
yes, both are bad. and that will be a lot of turmoil for everybody

look how much boomers are blamed because they're older and technically in charge as leads in companies and other stuff

it's gonna trickle down from there
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
You keep bringing it up, we're all kind of familiar with it but you should link that chit bro
https://www.iflscience.com/plants-an...an-apocalypse/
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this is just a logical consequence of women not having to rely on men for a living anymore. it's gonna happen everywhere srs.
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
this is just a logical consequence of women not having to rely on men for a living anymore. it's gonna happen everywhere srs.
both rely on each other though. that's entirely why it's bad; more aptly why the lie will come crashing down, because feminism has told them they don't. that is the biological imperative. either rejecting one or the other is not good; it's basically covering it up (thinking you solved something while the real motivation is burgeoning underneath)

both are needed to continue on the species
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Agreed, we will see an epidemic of depressed harpies raging 24/7 because they'll finally understand feminism fcked them over.

Different old post I made:

Suicide rates rising faster for women than men

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...=1603537006722

Especially for older women.

Their glow eventually disappears and they finally get treated as men but they can't handle it.

Women are also getting unhappier with life:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness

By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate thatwomen's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men.


Men are happier in life than women

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ppearance.html

Women also taking more SSRI's than ever to cope with life

Women are twice as likely to use antidepressants compared to men

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...sants-men.html




But muh feminism and liberalism was supposed to make women happier?!!!!!!


Message to feminists:

Of course they're depressed. Imagine living a life where you have an hour of housework a day then are free to pursue whatever hobbies you want. If you have kids they can be demanding for the first couple of years then they can tag along on your hobbies, and at 5 they go away for 7 hours a day so again you're free to pursue whatever hobbies you have without having to worry about earning enough to support a family, you can even work a job if you want the sense of accomplishment from that but only if you want it.

Then imagine a life where you have to commute to work 5 days a week to perform some likely repetitive task you don't enjoy for 8 hours straight, and if you don't do it well enough you'll be fired and your family will be living in the streets. Imagine that sometimes you have to work 10 hours a day or a weekend to pull overtime because you need the money. Then when you get home you have to spend time with your kids so they develop well. Then maybe you get 3 hours on Saturday to enjoy a hobby, but probably don't have the money.

Which life would you rather live? Of course there are people who enjoy their 9-5 (like myself) but for the vast majority it seems they don't. Even as someone who enjoys their job I'd drop it in a second if I could stay home with the kiddo and take him fishing, hiking, do yardwork with him, teach him my OK carpentry skills, maybe smoke a brisket for dinner, make some banana bread, etc... and these were my responsibilities for the day. Imagine someone telling you option 2 is better and you believing it.

My wife recently went back to work because we've got the little man in preschool (gotta foster that social interaction and social skills) and she got bored at home because their is not enough tasks in a day. Her job is low stress though and her money is all thrown into our spending budget. I can't imagine how stressed she would be if she had to pay our bills for a month.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
https://www.iflscience.com/plants-an...an-apocalypse/
Thanks. Relevant part
In the normal course of events in a natural ecological setting somewhat more young survive to maturity than are necessary to replace their dying or senescent established associates," Calhoun wrote in 1972. "The excess that find no social niches emigrate."

Here, the "excess" could not emigrate, for there was nowhere else to go. The mice that found themself with no social role to fill – there are only so many head mouse roles, and the utopia was in no need of a Ratatouille-esque chef – became isolated.

"Males who failed withdrew physically and psychologically; they became very inactive and aggregated in large pools near the center of the floor of the universe. From this point on they no longer initiated interaction with their established associates, nor did their behavior elicit attack by territorial males," read the paper. "Even so, they became characterized by many wounds and much scar tissue as a result of attacks by other withdrawn males."

The withdrawn males would not respond during attacks, lying there immobile. Later on, they would attack others in the same pattern. The female counterparts of these isolated males withdrew as well. Some mice spent their days preening themselves, shunning mating, and never engaging in fighting. Due to this they had excellent fur coats, and were dubbed, somewhat disconcertingly, the "beautiful ones".

The breakdown of usual mouse behavior wasn't just limited to the outsiders. The "alpha male" mice became extremely aggressive, attacking others with no motivation or gain for themselves, and regularly raped both males and females. Violent encounters sometimes ended in mouse-on-mouse cannibalism.

Despite – or perhaps because – their every need was being catered for, mothers would abandon their young or merely just forget about them entirely, leaving them to fend for themselves. The mother mice also became aggressive towards trespassers to their nests, with males that would normally fill this role banished to other parts of the utopia. This aggression spilled over, and the mothers would regularly kill their young. Infant mortality in some territories of the utopia reached 90 percent.

This was all during the first phase of the downfall of the "utopia". In the phase Calhoun termed the "second death", whatever young mice survived the attacks from their mothers and others would grow up around these unusual mouse behaviors. As a result, they never learned usual mice behaviors and many showed little or no interest in mating, preferring to eat and preen themselves, alone.

The population peaked at 2,200 – short of the actual 3,000-mouse capacity of the "universe" – and from there came the decline. Many of the mice weren't interested in breeding and retired to the upper decks of the enclosure, while the others formed into violent gangs below, which would regularly attack and cannibalize other groups as well as their own. The low birth rate and high infant mortality combined with the violence, and soon the entire colony was extinct. During the mousepocalypse, food remained ample, and their every need completely met.

Calhoun termed what he saw as the cause of the collapse "behavioral sink".
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