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post 1658306833 03-21-2022, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
what? what the **** are you even talking about?
Exactly. I said it is stupid. Because it doesn't exist. Not how it works.

you brought whe whole "deflection" thing when it WASNT caused by it and thats fuking obvious
post 1658306873 03-21-2022, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Unless you are talking about a deflection caused by a crash and not by the movement (which is just stupid).



Fuking hell the amount off bull**** itt in insane.

Everyone is tryna give an opinion about something they never studied.


Nonsense.
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post 1658306953 03-21-2022, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
yep because i clearly slaved 4 years of my life for a BBA. done with you bud.
Bro, I'm a pilot.

You think I didn't study this ****!?


You are bringing into the table something that had no influence on the crash.
post 1658307013 03-21-2022, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Exactly. I said it is stupid. Because it doesn't exist. Not how it works.

you brought whe whole "deflection" thing when it WASNT caused by it and thats fuking obvious
I was actually proving you have no basic understanding of half the **** you post. at the end of the day the very act of any piece of material removing itself from a fuselage is an act of deflection. an unbalance of forces large enough that leads to a failure in elasticity.
post 1658307023 03-21-2022, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Skeptical_Hippo⏩
Different variant of this plane, this one didn’t have that system. Plus Boeing fixed that problem already
fixed that problem.... really? lol. if you see 1 cockroach I guarantee there is more than just 1 laying around
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post 1658307063 03-21-2022, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
I was actually proving you have no basic understanding of half the **** you post. at the end of the day the very act of any piece of material removing itself from a fuselage is an act of deflection.
BUT IT DIDN'T REMOVE ITSELF FROM THE FUSELAGE...

you are the one bringing it to the table when it DIDN'T HAPPEN! Stop "pooping" theory to play smart.


thats not what I meant when I said that it could (prossibly, but not probably) be caused by a structural damage.


You don't know anything about it. Wanna know how I know? You don't know the difference between an horizontal stabilizer and an elevator. (otherwise you wouldn't say they lost control over the stabilizer, because the pilot NEVER...NEEEEVEEEERR had control over it in the first place)
post 1658307263 03-21-2022, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
BUT IT DIDN'T REMOVE ITSELF FROM THE FUSELAGE...

you are the one bringing it to the table when it DIDN'T HAPPEN!


thats not what I meant when I said that it could (prossibly, but not probably) be caused by a structural damage.


You don't know anything about it. Wanna know how I know? You don't know the difference between an horizontal stabilizer and an elevator.
I think you should go back to page 3 and read over your posts then try this again.
post 1658307303 03-21-2022, 08:16 AM
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post 1658307423 03-21-2022, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
I think you should go back to page 3 and read over your posts then try this again.
Say the # of the post.

Never mentioned deflection before you did it. But I wanna know what made you bring it to the table.
post 1658307433 03-21-2022, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
You don't know anything about it. Wanna know how I know? You don't know the difference between an horizontal stabilizer and an elevator. (otherwise you wouldn't say they lost control over the stabilizer, because the pilot NEVER...NEEEEVEEEERR had control over it in the first place)
the entire horizontal stabilizer is dynamic (via jackscrew controled by CS) you do understand that right? that is literally how the 737-Max failed.

go back to flying your cessna.
post 1658307603 03-21-2022, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
the entire horizontal stabilizer is dynamic (via jackscrew controled by CS) you do understand that right? that is literally how the 737-Max failed.

go back to flying your cessna.
flaps?

edit: oh it's the wings on the back that are dynamic. via jackscrew controlled by CS
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post 1658307763 03-21-2022, 08:24 AM
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Its the new Covid air variant. It enters the engine and infects everyone on board.

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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
flaps?
that would be the elevator. elevators are located close to the centroid of the aircraft and have a larger play in generating lift. the horizontal stabilizer is on the rear of the aircraft and generates a large moment due to being so far from the centroid of the aircraft and has the influence on angle of attack of the aircraft.
post 1658307923 03-21-2022, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
flaps?

edit: oh it's the wings on the back that are dynamic. via jackscrew controlled by CS
wing, not plural. that horizontal stabilizer on the tail moves as a single piece via a large jackscrew driven by the aircrafts hydraulic system. there are elevators on the rear stabilizer that are there to aid the rear stabilizer and rudder.
post 1658308013 03-21-2022, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
wing, not plural. that horizontal stabilizer on the tail moves as a single piece view a large jackscrew
i tried making mine and i'm in a ghetto, crash landed, i gosh i should have waited to listen
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Bro, I'm a pilot.
how do u handle being one mistake away from certain death breh srs
post 1658309983 03-21-2022, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
how do u handle being one mistake away from certain death breh srs
Human error crashes are usually the result of a chain of mistakes, not just a single one.

When you consider the redundancy in the procedures, that makes sense.
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To the dude that said suicidal pilots jump off buildings, not crash planes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

he crash was deliberately caused by the co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, who had previously been treated for suicidal tendencies and declared "unfit to work" by his doctor

I hate flying due to giving up control.....I wish I didn't because I want to go everywhere. And I know it's irrational; I just can't overcome it.
post 1658310343 03-21-2022, 09:17 AM
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fuark, brootal way to go.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
how do u handle being one mistake away from certain death breh srs
Thats not how I see it.

I'm trained to handle any situation (if it can be handled). Its not like they teach you to "drive" the airplane. You gotta learn physics, aircraft systems, air law, human fators, meterology, prodecures, navigation, etc etc. So you feel trained/prepared for it.

Obviously accidents happen (just like they can happen if I'm driving a car).



Btw, to the person that said I should stop posting because the "radar shows no inflection points in altitude after it's dive.". This is what the data shows:






And to the "thats how 737max crashes happened". We are not talking about 737 max. The 738 is not equipped with the MCAS.

I know the pilot can somewhat control the stabilizer via trimming, but why would they do it if theyve been in level flight for awhile? More... why would they do it w/ the AP on? Unless there is a problem with the AP or something


Never happened to me, but Ive had some olders pilots claiming that sometimes the AP goes nuts. Again...never happened to me.


This being said it could be a 2nd stall situation (would be pilot error). But... why would an airplane stall in the first place w/ AP on? :S Something went really wrong.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
the problem here is that it was a fairly remote area and would have taken time to get first aid there. A lot of people probably died needlessly sadly
Broo. No one survived that impact.
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Thats not how I see it.

I'm trained to handle any situation (that can be handled). Its not like they teach you to "drive" the airplane. You gotta learn physics, aircraft systems, air law, human fators, meterology, prodecures, navigation, etc etc. So you feel like you are trained/prepared for it.

Obviously accidents happen (just like they can happen if I'm driving a car).



Btw, to the person that said I should stop posting because the "radar shows no inflection points in altitude after it's dive.". This is what the data shows:






And to the "thats how 737max crashes happened". We are not talking about 737 max. The 738 is not equipped with the MCAS.

I know the pilot can somewhat control the stabilizer via trimming, but why would they do it if theyve been in level flight for awhile? More... why would they do it w/ the AP on? Unless there is a problem with the AP or something


Never happened to me, but Ive had some olders pilots claiming that sometimes the AP goes nuts. Again...never happened to me.
Fuark, so horrific knowing you will 100% die upon impact and you have a bit of time to process that thought.
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After watching a video of a plane nosediving straight down, 31,000ft at 350mph.
Parts of the plane were strewn across the countryside following the crash and fireball on Monday afternoon in China
Pictures/drones videos after wreck showing scattered debri, plane pieces


yet FLight 93 over shanksville "Was swallowed by the land" making a pit 10-15ft. deep

one of the first responders"
“There was nothing. No bodies, no wreckage,” said Andy Barth, of Somerset Area Ambulance Station 902, who was among the first responders to arrive on the scene that day. “Just scattered small pieces of metal. I didn’t see anything larger than five or six feet. I’d have never guessed it was a big plane like that.”
FBI employee within 3 hours of the wreck arrives and says in her book:
She added: 'The biggest thing for me is that that there were no bodies. I'm used to crime scenes but this one blew me out of the water. It just looked like the ground had swallowed up' the plane.
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News story on the crash

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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Not funny dude.
I agree. You're still here.
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Should be allowed to bring your own parachute or jetpack onto planes for scenarios like this
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
Fuark, so horrific knowing you will 100% die upon impact and you have a bit of time to process that thought.
This is the first I have seen of that magnified view of the descent. The flighttradar photo going around earlier was a global view of the entire trip so the plot looked much different. So yes looks like there were inflection points hinting that there was an attempt by the crew to stabilize the aircraft, or the CS was.

Also I am aware this was not a Max aircraft nor was I insinuating it. I was simply putting into context the horizontal stabilizer and the jackscrew and since many are aware of the max mishap and the story behind it.. I referenced it.

There are so many factors at play with that plot you posted. acceleration due to gravity is going to increase with lower altitude. Air will also become more viscous and forces are going to increase on the aircraft. This can influence everything.
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Originally Posted By ConTroLFreaKK⏩
Should be allowed to bring your own parachute or jetpack onto planes for scenarios like this
I usually just bring my little one seater. Once **** starts going down, just untie, quick pre-flight inspection, abbreviated run-up procedures (for times sake), then fly safely away into the sunset.
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Originally Posted By Roldz⏩
I agree. You're still here.
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