incels are getting weeded out of the gene pool so I'm not sure if u could call that winning for them

who wants to wage slave their whole life for no clean and young pussy

retire or die at 65 and pay $10k/month nursing home bill

just lol at you

They're winning in the sense that their opting out is having real impact

Well you'd better have parents that you will let you live with them, there's not many places you can live free of rent, utilities, and be served free food.

You're better off working and buying a cheap house, then working part time to cover living expenses.

What if jobs had computers that were controlled by a video game controller and you told guys it was just like playing a video game

Real life is already like playing a video game tho, just gotta look at it the right way

Brb grinding experience and $$$
Brb levelling up
Brb buying gf

I'm getting bored playing video games after 2h max... and how does being single keep you from working? I'm 34 and single and if I don't work I'd get bored out of this world... And I have hobbies that take up time (cycling, lifting, martial arts).

Cool less competition for me.

vidya doesnt have the chaos that life has. you sit down in the chair and do the same thing x times, in a sterile setting

yeah but it is real though. thats the problem, you must face the reality that you are a loser and an even bigger loser when compared to the great men of history

if you try your best and your best is 10% compared to the great men of history then youre a great man yourself

true, but casear or nothing is legit i dont think theres many good arguments against it

Grinding in videogames is much like grinding in life though, and in both cases you're grinding to do/be something better

Would say videogames expedite the reward though compared to real life, and of course opens you up to things you just can't do in reality

lol. enjoying wasting your time isn't time wasted. simple as that. doesn't matter the activity. doesn't matter if it's golfing or playing video games or baking or whatever. judging others for what they want to waste their time with is sad though

Nobody is really winning though since a lot of men and women are unhappy now thanks to social media and feminism

Why not both? Sometimes I'm tired from my tradie job and don't want to perform any physical stuff.

And most women don't like outdoorsy ****, if anything they're more Netflix and video game centered than the dudes.

casear?

The only thing elite 6 figures masters semiconductor Chad got me is that I sleep in a rented 1br instead of my parents' bedroom.

Honestly, I spend $32,000 on rent and utilities a year. I have never had a guest over to my apt and never had a chick to bang over, it's just a straight up rot pad. I'd be a lot better off just NEETmaxxing with my folks, if they didn't live 1000 miles away.

Devils advocate: who the fk gives a **** what these old dead men did? for real? why tf would I compare myself to these people that are dead and no longer have any impact what so ever on my life, and why should I care if anyone else thinks I'm a "loser" if I'm enjoying my life?

Looking at it from a "i dont care about the past, only what you can do for me going forward" attitude.

Because those guys are still impacting your life today, and you don't even know how.

"The past isn't dead. It isn't even past."

Yes I'm sure people people understand that, but they are not going to actively do anything for me going forward, and I certainly don't "owe" them anything or need to compare myself to them.

It's like telling people to blindly "respect your elders" when a lot of them are garbage human beings and don't deserve it. Respect them for what? They had no direct impact on me. It is earned, not given.

(not speaking about myself, I understand that what I am posting is incredibly selfish. I'm personally doing just fine in life)

chads are happy because they're banging a ton of chicks.

women are happy when they're in their prime but then get mad post wall

Incels are mad but still at least they're starting to impact society by dropping out

based

This. Tbh half the reason I bust my ass and improve in my career is to be a better provider and more attractive mate. Reduced incentive lately tbh.

Pitiful little maidenless schmucks. Nothing can be done for them.

It's no coincidence that hope went out the window for a lot of people once they decided they were too clever for God

It's not anything new either, this stuff goes in cycles, secularism had taken foothold in America before the first Great Awakening in the 1700s

The churches are emptied, preachers turn from the love of God to politics and worldly things, oppression increases, hope decreases

Yet, in our hour of darkness, just before the dawn, we cry out and bring the power of God back into our hearts

In God, our hope is eternal, the world loses its dark influence over us, we receive strength and mercy

We receive healing, guidance, and the prospect of a brighter future

God is love, and love is what we need to stay strong

---

9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
11 No one remembers the former generations,
and even those yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow them.

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11

Remove that incentive and a lot of men have no reason to not rot

this

"Why don't men want to get married anymore?!"the media disingenuously asks, while also suggesting cuckolding, selling nudes, and sex-work are all behaviors to be celebrated in women.

This is such a loser mindset - plus I think you are missing the point.


What so many of the young men of the last 2 generations don't understand, is that when you focus ONLY on hedonistic pleasure, "YOLO" type thinking, you will ALWAYS be unfulfilled.

What you need to realize is, meaning in life comes from FIRST establishing yourself as a man, building yourself up, building your career (career, not JOB), and not just being 100% self-sustaining, but having EXCESS resources that you can eventually share with a woman/family. You MUST be in this position before you can be a leader....and for a woman to follow your authority. The vast majority of you don't even meet this most basic pre-requite and wonder why nobody takes you seriously. Hell just today I my lunch break I walked into a Philz coffee and a group of 4 girls (maybe 19-20 years old) hit on me, and then after they left another girl 18-19 years old hit on me....BOTH groups approached me, and I'm 39. Girls are thirsty AF for MEN who have their chit together, and who have a presence when they walk into a room. This isn't a brag, I already have a GF, and I have a side girl in Chicago....the point is to illustrate how thirsty girls 18-25years old are for actual, competent, men.

Once you've established yourself the purpose then becomes SERVING SOMETHING GREATER THAN YOURSELF. Living this fake flashy lifestyle you guys see all over Social Media is FAKE, the people who flex the most are completely fake....or they are SELLING you something.

Get yourself out of the house, get plugged into the community, do some charity work, volunteer on the weekends to referee kids sports, work the snack bar.....serve a cause greater than yourself. Then keep building up from there, network with other volunteers, go to city council meetings, rotary club meetings, you will meet local business leaders.....this is literally how you become a successful pillar of the community - you don't need to buy "self help books" or "how to be a millionaire" overnight get rich quick scheme nonsense. You build yourself up over years, you establish a good track record, good reputation, and you'll meet great people (including women) along the way.

So many great men have built this society, and shaped the future, some people call it "making a dent in the universe". This is what you need to do, have a purpose. What so many of you fail to understand.....is if you do this....you don't have to CHASE girls anymore....you should NEVER be chasing girls, you will simply come across them, girls are VERY AGGRESSIVE when they find a man attractive, they purposefully put themselves in close proximity to you, to be near you, so you notice them. The more you demonstrate you are a competent man, with skills, with drive, with structure, the more they want to be in your proximity. As always, this doesn't mean you can be some out-of-shape dork - you have to get your ass in the gym, be fit & healthy, dress well, etc. It's a marathon, not a sprint - you will develop all the "attractive" qualities if you do what I've outlined above. There are no shortcuts to life.

So, decide to do something with your life....or keep complaining and play video games pretending like you are "striking a blow against the system" by being a loser. Yeah....you sure showed them.