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post 1660589163 05-02-2022, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Footage from today on the Izyum front after Ukrainians struck Russian forces. Looks like the fuking Moon.


https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/2-may-...near-sulyhivka

https://t.me/romandonik/2854

https://nitter.eu/666_mancer/status/...273367887874#m




Ok schizoman. Once again I have to remind you that we can't hear the voices in your head.
LOL

Theres a reason 90% of the refugees choose to go to russia instead of ukraine. Do us a favor and dont leave the forum so we can laugh at you when all of this starts going mainstream
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post 1660589393 05-02-2022, 07:49 AM
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Ukrainians retreating under fire from Izyum

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exhausted-...130359514.html

"The Ukrainian BTG + National Guard group (~1000 troops), blocked against the Oskil Reservoir, was ordered by Kiyv on a suicide mission to attack Izyum but was stopped on all 3 sides by Russian troops. It is now back in the pocket and getting grinded by artillery."



Pray for the nazis still trapped
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post 1660589503 05-02-2022, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
LOL

Theres a reason 90% of the refugees choose to go to russia instead of ukraine.Do us a favor and dont leave the forum so we can laugh at you when all of this starts going mainstream
More vatnik delusions and lies fueled by Kremlin propaganda

https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
LOL

Theres a reason 90% of the refugees choose to go to russia instead of ukraine. Do us a favor and dont leave the forum so we can laugh at you when all of this starts going mainstream
Pulling numbers straight outta chithole now, are we?
post 1660589663 05-02-2022, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Footage from today on the Izyum front after Ukrainians struck Russian forces. Looks like the fuking Moon.


https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/2-may-...near-sulyhivka

https://t.me/romandonik/2854

https://nitter.eu/666_mancer/status/...273367887874#m
Probably first batches of M777 Howitzer and Panzerhaubitze 2000 artillery systems delivered to the front line, making it rain heavy artillery on the russians. They've lost major general Andrei Simonov via artillery in Izum and Valeri Gerasimov was injured by it.
If the Ukies keep ramping up the artillery like this, the may 9th "victory" parade will be a short one consisting of a few burnt Ladas lol.

More russian armored vehicles getting lit up by artillery:

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Originally Posted By Stizzel
LOL

Theres a reason 90% of the refugees choose to go to russia instead of ukraine. Do us a favor and dont leave the forum so we can laugh at you when all of this starts going mainstream
Sure Boris, the millions who have been leaving towards the West were just CIA holograms. Even more pathological lies from a broken "mind".


"all of this starts going mainstream" - the Russians atrocities already are mainstream, bit late for that. But keep it up, accuse the other side with what your ilk has been doing.
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
Probably first batches of M777 Howitzer and Panzerhaubitze 2000 artillery systems delivered to the front line, making it rain heavy artillery on the russians. They've lost major general Andrei Simonov via artillery in Izum and Valeri Gerasimov was injured by it.
If the Ukies keep ramping up the artillery like this, the may 9th "victory" parade will be a short one consisting of a few burnt Ladas lol.

More russian armored vehicles getting lit up by artillery:

Poot fooked up big time. So many dead people in an absolutely pointless war.
post 1660589943 05-02-2022, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
More vatnik delusions and lies fueled by Kremlin propaganda

https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine
Thats the entire country. In the donbass when refugees are given the option of joining russia or ukraine they almost entirely choose russia.

You should maybe listen to the stories some of the captured nazis tell and you'll understand why
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post 1660590443 05-02-2022, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Thats the entire country. In the donbass when refugees are given the option of joining russia or ukraine they almost entirely choose russia.

You should maybe listen to the stories some of the captured nazis tell and you'll understand why
Okay vladimir vladimirovitch, show your source.
post 1660591073 05-02-2022, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Okay vladimir vladimirovitch, show your source.
You have to search based on each specific location ****. The talking point to explain this is that Russia is forcing them to go to Russia lmao. As if they weren't fleeing to Russia to escape the nazis for the last 10 years.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/07/europ...ntl/index.html
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post 1660592063 05-02-2022, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By foXs
[vatnik cope]

Your short sighted view do not let you see the bigger picture of how major powers calculate their moves. It's not about Ukraine at all, this is hardly a big issue if we are talking about geo politics and long term strategies.
As always vatniks keep changing the story as they eat chit at every twist and turn. Went from "Russia won't attack, thats war mongering from the west", to "Kyiv will be taken in two days", and now "This is not about Ukraine. Just wait until after our lifetimes and all of this will unfold perfectly". Fukkin lol.


At least we do agree that russia is a hostile nation that just does not know peace, hence why they are a cancer. They are not welcome in Europe anymore. All their friends are in the east.


Keep scrubbing toilets in germany or whatever you do while building your chitty brick house in rusia.





Especially lol @ 'rusia stronk. we just need china to help us'





Mirin vatnik delusion when the future is poverty levels on par with venezuela and north korea

post 1660592323 05-02-2022, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
This and never forget Russia is a joke



Literally 2/3 of the global economy is against Russia.

Vatnik keep the copium going boyos, you gonna need it




Keep fighting my vatnik sisters! 2 more weeks!
It’s amazing actually. The state of California, just the state, has over double the GDP of all of Russia.

Fcking LMAO
post 1660592613 05-02-2022, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
It’s amazing actually. The state of California, just the state, has over double the GDP of all of Russia.

Fcking LMAO
Looks like Russia is a non factor and China is our greatest competitor. So why are we weakening ourselves while strengthening china...for the sake of Ukraine?
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post 1660592943 05-02-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Looks like Russia is a non factor and China is our greatest competitor. So why are we weakening ourselves while strengthening china...for the sake of Ukraine?
“US” fcking lmao. Sometimes I wonder if you aren’t just a highly, highly, dedicated troll. If it came to blows with China and the US why the FCK would the US want Russia strong?

No, this an’t be trolling. It’s too dumb - this is pure propaganda flowing through you.
post 1660593313 05-02-2022, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
“US” fcking lmao. Sometimes I wonder if you aren’t just a highly, highly, dedicated troll. If it came to blows with China and the US why the FCK would the US want Russia strong?

No, this an’t be trolling. It’s too dumb - this is pure propaganda flowing through you.
I'm talking economics, not military. We're in an economic war with Russia that involves weakening our own economy with the hopes of weakening theirs as well. Russia will never be 'strong' relative to the US, unless we keep shooting ourselves in the foot.

How long do you think it will take us to recover from the recession we're heading into? How much will China gain during that time?
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post 1660593603 05-02-2022, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
I'm talking economics, not military. We're in an economic war with Russia that involves weakening our own economy with the hopes of weakening theirs as well. Russia will never be 'strong' relative to the US, unless we keep shooting ourselves in the foot.

How long do you think it will take us to recover from the recession we're heading into? How much will China gain during that time?
And you view this recession as a product of the war in Ukraine? It’s fascinating to listen to, on one hand you’re trying to argue that Russia is weak - so we shouldn’t bother - but then you’re going to make it so important that it throws the entire west into a recession …

And this was prompted by me stating that Russia has less than half the GDP of one US state.

Btw, China has -plenty- of its own issues.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
weakening ourselves while strengthening china
Not a thing.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Not a thing.
Even if it were true that the health of the US economy was reliant on “normal” relations with Russia (and I’m not saying it is) … then what?

He’s arguing we don’t rock the boat with Russia while they take territory into Europe while China is building against us … and we are reliant on good relations with Russia.

Sounds to me like, if what he was saying were true, it’s time -right now- to get ourselves separated from Russia, and landing a few blows through Ukraine doesn’t hurt anything either.

That’s according to him.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Even if it were true that the health of the US economy was reliant on “normal” relations with Russia (and I’m not saying it is) … then what?

He’s arguing we don’t rock the boat with Russia while they take territory into Europe while China is building against us … and we are reliant on good relations with Russia.

Sounds to me like, if what he was saying were true, it’s time -right now- to get ourselves separated from Russia, and landing a few blows through Ukraine doesn’t hurt anything either.

That’s according to him.
You can always measure the butthurt over the US/West stomping down its foot and aiding the Ukrainians/sanctioning the Russians by poorly thought out cope posts like his.
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Looks like Lukashenko's map a month ago showing plans to invade Moldova next was correct

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Originally Posted By miscinbro
And you view this recession as a product of the war in Ukraine? It’s fascinating to listen to, on one hand you’re trying to argue that Russia is weak - so we shouldn’t bother - but then you’re going to make it so important that it throws the entire west into a recession …

And this was prompted by me stating that Russia has less than half the GDP of one US state.

Btw, China has -plenty- of its own issues.
Oh our economy would be ****ed without this, but this economic war is making it a lot worse. We're not even going to touch on the American lives we're ruining for Ukraine because I know you give 0 fuks about that, but the only way China comes out ahead of their issues is by facing a global market in which the US is also crippled, and that's exactly what we're accomplishing. We should be doing whatever it takes to keep America's economy strong, and this is the opposite.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Oh our economy would be ****ed without this, but this economic war is making it a lot worse. We're not even going to touch on the American lives we're ruining for Ukraine because I know you give 0 fuks about that, but the only way China comes out ahead of their issues is by facing a global market in which the US is also crippled, and that's exactly what we're accomplishing. We should be doing whatever it takes to keep America's economy strong, and this is the opposite.
So in this fantasy, when do we cut our economic reliance on Russian relations?
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Essay by Putin in which he basically says Ukraine doesn't exist because over a thousand years ago it was part of Russia

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
So in this fantasy, when do we cut our economic reliance on Russian relations?
When we find a means to do so that doesn't fuk over our own country

Maybe this is where our point of views diverge - you hate America and I don't
Originally Posted By dusky99
Essay by Putin in which he basically says Ukraine doesn't exist because over a thousand years ago it was part of Russia

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
Even now they're essentially the same culturally. Their language is virtually identical, their customs are the same, etc
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
When we find a means to do so that doesn't fuk over our own country

Maybe this is where our point of views diverge - you hate America and I don't
That’s right comrade, you’re the one with the US’s best interests deeply and wholly at heart.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
When we find a means to do so that doesn't fuk over our own country

Maybe this is where our point of views diverge - you hate America and I don't

Even now they're essentially the same culturally. Their language is virtually identical, their customs are the same, etc
How is spending 0,5% of the annual US military budget wrecking the US?

"Even now they're essentially the same culturally." - clearly not, seeing how the Russians are actively murdering the Ukrainians over some autistic visions about muh Grand Russian Empire.
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Lend-Lease act is about to have a ton of weapons flowing in

US says more than 5,000 javelins are arriving to Ukraine through Friday

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Putin stated directly what his plans are for the new borders of Ukraine. Straight from his essay
You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms? I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion:the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union.All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Even if it were true that the health of the US economy was reliant on “normal” relations with Russia (and I’m not saying it is) … then what?

He’s arguing we don’t rock the boat with Russia while they take territory into Europe while China is building against us … and we are reliant on good relations with Russia.

Sounds to me like, if what he was saying were true, it’s time -right now- to get ourselves separated from Russia, and landing a few blows through Ukraine doesn’t hurt anything either.

That’s according to him.
Being independent from Russia as far as our economy goes is apparently A BAD THING. Look, Biden doesn't want to boost our own oil reserves at home, an incredibly stupid policy IMO. BUT we have an election coming up relatively soon. So yes, suffering short term to be independent long term is GOOD. We the people have to start voting people in who want whats best for America.
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