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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine WW3 thread; Soys and propaganda edition - Part 3

post 1660849993 05-06-2022, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Uh, I don't know if you're high or drunk or if this is your natural mental condition but fighting Russia has nothing to do with being a part of the EU. Even after all of this Ukraine still won't be a member, unless the western portion gets absorbed by Poland when Zelensky retires to London.

You realize that Zelensky made it illegal for men who are able to fight to leave the country, right?
Well, one criteria for joining the EU is:

stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities

Russia has none of this. Russia is trying to take over Ukraine. Ukranian people are fighting to prevent this so their application has a better chance of being accepted so they can have their gravy train as you put it. Ukrainians have a motive and reason to fight. In your paranoid mind you just see Zelensky and the CIA sending kids to the meatgrinder.

Everything you say is just stupid Stizzel. I can't tell if it's mental illness or you're just, well, stupid.


And wow, a wartime draft/conscription. Certainly the first time in world history this has ever happened.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
And wow, a wartime draft/conscription. Certainly the first time in world history this has ever happened.
Good post.

And yea, totally, particularly in Russia. But you never hear Stizzle whining about that.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Good post.

And yea, totally, particularly in Russia. But you never hear Stizzle whining about that.
91% of Americans supported joining the allies during WW2

Stizzel's grandfather standing on the corner in 1940 shouting about the draft:

"Roosevelt and the globalist propaganda are sacrificing young lives for the world economic forum, bilderberg group, military industrial complex!!11one
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Well, one criteria for joining the EU is:

stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities

Russia has none of this. Russia is trying to take over Ukraine. Ukranian people are fighting to prevent this so their application has a better chance of being accepted so they can have their gravy train as you put it. Ukrainians have a motive and reason to fight. In your paranoid mind you just see Zelensky and the CIA sending kids to the meatgrinder.

Everything you say is just stupid Stizzel. I can't tell if it's mental illness or you're just, well, stupid.


And wow, a wartime draft/conscription. Certainly the first time in world history this has ever happened.
Yeah bro. The Ukraine is fighting Russia so they can join EU. I bet you put your big boy pants on all by yourself too. What a champion you are
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Good post.

And yea, totally, particularly in Russia. But you never hear Stizzle whining about that.
Do you think having a draft and making it illegal for any men between 18 and 60 to leave the country is the same thing?

You're trying to convince yourself that the people being sent to do want to do it, while it's illegal for them not to.

Please keep trying to work that logical pretzel out, it's hilarious.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Ukranian escalation efforts from NATO continue with attacks inside Russia, threats to Transnistria, and bragging about shutting down peace talks while Pentagon parades its efforts to get Russian generals killed and Russian ships sunk. Russia has mostly ignored these provocation efforts and remain focused on steady success in the Donbass efforts.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...world-war-iii/
You're getting beyond desperate, losing another major irreplaceable ship and Biden announcing that lend & lease will be signed on victory day must have really hit hard.

Yes yes, Russia is the one who lied and invaded, Russia has been threatening using nukes since week one, but NATO - who haven't even addressed the sabre rattling - and especially Ukraine - who are defending their country - are the ones escalating.

It's desperate, pathetic and flat out evil that after Bucha, Mariupol, all the murder, torture, rape and kidnapping you and the rest of the Russians still have the gall to try and push blame on the Ukrainians.

Keep crying.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yeah bro. The Ukraine is fighting Russia so they can join EU. I bet you put your big boy pants on all by yourself too. What a champion you are



Do you think having a draft and making it illegal for any men between 18 and 60 to leave the country is the same thing?

You're trying to convince yourself that the people being sent to do want to do it, while it's illegal for them not to.

Please keep trying to work that logical pretzel out, it's hilarious.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
You're getting beyond desperate, losing another major irreplaceable ship and Biden announcing that lend & lease will be signed on victory day must have really hit hard.

Yes yes, Russia is the one who lied and invaded, Russia has been threatening using nukes since week one, but NATO - who haven't even addressed the sabre rattling - and especially Ukraine - who are defending their country - are the ones escalating.

It's desperate, pathetic and flat out evil that after Bucha, Mariupol, all the murder, torture, rape and kidnapping you and the rest of the Russians still have the gall to try and push blame on the Ukrainians.

Keep crying.
Everything we do to help ukraine comes with the risk of escalation stupid.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Keep at it bro. You'll get the shapes right eventually. Probably right after ukraine joins the EU
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Keep at it bro. You'll get the shapes right eventually. Probably right after ukraine joins the EU
Russia will win this war around the same time the "ElEcTiOn FrAuD" is proven.
Survival. When the jungle tears itself down and builds itself into something new. Guys like you and me, we end up dead. Doesn’t really mean anything. Or, if we happen to live through it, well that doesn’t mean anything either.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Russia will win this war around the same time the "ElEcTiOn FrAuD" is proven.
See, this is how i know you're an idiot. I dont care if russia wins or not
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
See, this is how i know you're an idiot. I dont care if russia wins or not
What do you want?
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
What do you want?
For America to not get involved
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
For America to not get involved
We've been involved for a long time, that ship has sailed. How about things that can actually happen?
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Cautious optimism is warranted with the first major Ukranian counter-offensive unfolding.

Brief history to this point: Ukraine won the Battle of Kiev but was not able to encircle and destroy Russian combat power in that area. Never the less, Russia was forced to reduce the scope of their mission and concentrate firepower in the East and South only. Despite the logistical and tactical advantages this approach offered to Russia, Ukraine has prevented them making any major gains beyond those achieved in the initial week or so of the invasion. However Ukraine can only win by retaking territory against a Russian defense, a more challenging prospect than defending ground - as we have seen with Russia's dismal performance in combined arms operations. So Ukraine's ability to conduct this counter-offensive will provide critical insights into how the war may unfold.

RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MAY 6

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sessment-may-6

The Ukrainian counteroffensive north and east of Kharkiv city secured further gains in the last 24 hours and may successfully push Russian forces out of artillery range of Kharkiv in the coming days. Ukrainian forces captured several settlements north and east of Kharkiv in the last 24 hours, reducing the ability of Russian forces to threaten Ukraine’s second-largest city. This Ukrainian operation is developing into a successful, broader counteroffensive—as opposed to the more localized counterattacks that Ukrainian forces have conducted throughout the war to secure key terrain and disrupt Russian offensive operations. Ukrainian forces are notably retaking territory along a broad arc around Kharkiv rather than focusing on a narrow thrust, indicating an ability to launch larger-scale offensive operations than we have observed so far in the war (as Ukrainian forces predominantly retook the outskirts of Kyiv following Russian withdrawals rather than in a major counteroffensive).The willingness of Ukrainian forces to concentrate the forces necessary for this scale of offensive operations, rather than deploying these available forces to defenses in eastern Ukraine, additionally indicates the Ukrainian military’s confidence in repelling ongoing Russian operations to encircle Ukrainian forces in the Severodonetsk area. While Ukrainian forces are unlikely to directly threaten Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) to Izyum (as they run further to the east of recent Ukrainian advances), Ukrainian forces may be able to relieve Russian pressure on Kharkiv and possibly threaten to make further advances to the Russian border.

ISW cannot confirm initial reports of a Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile strike on the Russian frigate Admiral Makarov on May 6.[1] Pentagon Spokesperson John Kirby said the United States cannot confirm the reported strike and added “we’ve been looking at this all day.”[2] ISW will update this assessment with further information as it becomes available.

Key Takeaways

- The Ukrainian counteroffensive along a broad arc north and east of Kharkiv city took further terrain and will likely push Russian forces out of tube artillery range of the city in the coming days. The ability—and willingness—of the Ukrainian military to concentrate the forces in Kharkiv necessary to conduct this operation indicates Ukrainian confidence in repelling ongoing Russian attacks with their existing forces in the region.


- Russian forces did not make any progress on the Izyum axis.

- Russian forces likely secured small gains on the outskirts of Severodonetsk in the last 24 hours but are unlikely to successfully surround the town.

- Russian forces continued assaults on the Azovstal plant, but ISW cannot confirm any specific advances. Likely widespread civilian resistance to the Russian occupation may additionally be disrupting previously announced Russian plans to conduct a Victory Day exhibition in Mariupol.


- There were no significant changes on the southern axis in the last 24 hours and Russian forces continued to reinforce their forward positions.

- ISW cannot confirm reports of a Ukrainian anti-ship missile strike on the Admiral Makarov at this time.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
We've been involved for a long time, that ship has sailed. How about things that can actually happen?
What an interesting take. It's never been in me to blindly support the current thing. I guess being an npc isnt in my dna. Sorry. What you're advocating is stupid and evil.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Ukranian escalation efforts from NATO continue with attacks inside Russia, threats to Transnistria, and bragging about shutting down peace talks while Pentagon parades its efforts to get Russian generals killed and Russian ships sunk. Russia has mostly ignored these provocation efforts and remain focused on steady success in the Donbass efforts.



https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...world-war-iii/
Russia has mostly ignored it..
Besides threatening to nuke everyone LOL.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
For America to not get involved
We aren’t involved, we are only spending money already spent on a different objective that serves our purposes. The downfall of Russia will be a victory for America, if you don’t see that you are a fukking moron.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
For America to not get involved
I don't think anyone here is actually advocating the US government involve itself, meaning boots on the ground, planes in the air.

So tell us, what do youreallywant?
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https://www.the-sun.com/news/5278291...-snake-island/

Another flag ship on fire.
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I wonder how the american howtizers are going to do...Anyone seen those french caesars?
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
I wonder how the american howtizers are going to do...Anyone seen those french caesars?
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Originally Posted By B.O.L.A.⏩
I don't think anyone here is actually advocating the US government involve itself, meaning boots on the ground, planes in the air.

So tell us, what do youreallywant?
We're already involved sending money and weapons, implementing sanctions, helping ukraine target generals, starting fires in russia. Our involvement has been steadily increasing
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
You don't get to choose the meaning of "getting involved". NATO is fully funding Ukraine with money and weapons, NATO is completely involved in this war.

Imagine donating money to a 'terrorist' organization, your ass would be thrown in jail asap and the book thrown at you.

But the government can do whatever it wants, it can fund a war and call it "aid" and also claim that they are not involved in the war.
I can just imagine our response if someone helped iraqis kill our generals after we violated their sovereign borders
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
We're already involved sending money and weapons, implementing sanctions, helping ukraine target generals,starting fires in russia. Our involvement has been steadily increasing
Wait, the US is starting fires in Russia?
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Wait, the US is starting fires in Russia?
Probably, unless its one of our allies
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Probably, unless its one of our allies
AKA you have no idea WTF you are talking about.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Probably, unless its one of our allies
I think it's unlikely since the risk/reward ratio is highly unfavourable.
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