BREAKING: Wikileaks releases moon landing scenes filmed in Nevada desert

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Didnt Bill Clinton also get caughting giving someone petrified wood and tried to pawn it off as a moon rock?

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05-14-2022, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩

Didnt Bill Clinton also get caughting giving someone petrified wood and tried to pawn it off as a moon rock?

if by someone you mean monica lewinski, then sure.

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05-14-2022, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted By eatmycrackers⏩

if by someone you mean monica lewinski, then sure.

You're right maybe it's this story I was thinking about

https://www.google.com/amp/s/newspun...land-fake/amp/

Cliffs nasa/neil armstrong gave someone in Holland a moon rock that turned out to be fake.

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05-14-2022, 09:13 AM

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My mind is still blown by this thread.

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05-14-2022, 09:29 AM

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Third-party evidence for Apollo Moon landings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-..._Moon_landings

summary: there is extensive and conclusive third party evidence from a variety of third-party sources that the moon landings were no hoax

Even our opponents at the time the USSR admitted it was legit.

05-14-2022, 09:54 AM

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This came up in my youtube feed and Rogan says nearly everything I have been saying.

Some obviously fake video is included.

If you want to ask me a question:

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http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=150655983&p=1000366043#post1000366043

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05-14-2022, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩

You're right maybe it's this story I was thinking about

https://www.google.com/amp/s/newspun...land-fake/amp/

Cliffs nasa/neil armstrong gave someone in Holland a moon rock that turned out to be fake.

Already mentioned several times ITT, isnt/never was a moon rock and has no relation to the actual moon rocks we have...it has no implication on whether we went to the moon. See link above for an actual description of moon rocks and their defining characteristics. Unsurprisingly, Blackjacks "research" goes as far as a sensationalist alt-news site. Like the "zombies" he apparently is so critical of, he sees something on an alt-news site: "“lunar rock” given to Holland by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on behalf of NASA", doesnt question it, blindly believes it, and regurgitates it. This ispreciselythe type of zero critical thinking he is always going on about...he does it himself, on full display here. No critical research, no proper skepticism, just gullible belief.

There's not a shred of evidence this sham rock was given to Holland by Niel Armstrong or Buzz Aldrin personally, and indeed there is no evidence that NASA authenticated this rock specifically. The actual moon rock sample (super small piece of rock enclosed in plastic) given to Netherlands, through the proper channel, is still accounted for and on display. The large sham wood rock was never a moon rock and is either the result of a mistake (sketchy provenance), or possibly an outright hoax...leaning towards the former.

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05-14-2022, 10:36 AM

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Thanks TheAdlarian for making this thread so fuking entertaining. I read all 24 pages, srs lol

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

This came up in my youtube feed and Rogan says nearly everything I have been saying.

Some obviously fake video is included.

you gonna respond to the other threads?

05-14-2022, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

This came up in my youtube feed and Rogan says nearly everything I have been saying.

Some obviously fake video is included.

If you think this is some kind of argument, Joe Rogan rambling on about CTs....I've got some bad news.

To see how silly this is with an example, skip to around 5:10 in the video, where Rogan makes a point to bring up a (long-ago debunked) hoaxer talking point, the "faked Michael Collins spacewalk photo". First, Joe is saying this is from Gemini 15, which never existed (Gemini went up until mission 12, and the one in question is Gemini 10). He claims that NASA in a press release doctored a photo of Collins to make a training photo look like it was in space:this never happened and has been exposed to be a made up claim not supported by a shred of evidence- no such press release has been produced. What actually happened is the photo appeared in certain editions of Collins' autobiography, and never was claimed to be from a spacewalk, in fact even was captioned as a photo from Collins' training. The only "hoax" here was the hoax of Ralph Rene in trying to pass it off that NASA (or Collins in the book) claimed this was from a spacewalk. This is mindless.

....but types like Adlerian will gullibly believe it. Notice Rogan's, Adlerian's, Blackjack's tactic here....it's all quite similar....see some talking point (which Joe gets wrong in the first place, it was never from a press release), gullibly believe it, use zero critical thinking or proper skepticism, and then regurgitate. Then on to the next debunked talking point.

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05-14-2022, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩

If you think this is some kind of argument, Joe Rogan rambling on about CTs....I've got some bad news.

To see how silly this is with an example, skip to around 5:10 in the video, where Rogan makes a point to bring up a (long-ago debunked) hoaxer talking point, the "faked Michael Collins spacewalk photo". First, Joe is saying this is from Gemini 15, which never existed (Gemini went up until mission 12, and the one in question is Gemini 10). He claims that NASA in a press release doctored a photo of Collins to make a training photo look like it was in space:this never happened and has been exposed to be a made up claim not supported by a shred of evidence- no such press release has been produced. What actually happened is the photo appeared in certain editions of Collins' autobiography, and never was claimed to be from a spacewalk, in fact even was captioned as a photo from Collins' training. The only "hoax" here was the hoax of Ralph Rene in trying to pass it off that NASA (or Collins in the book) claimed this was from a spacewalk. This is mindless.

....but types like Adlerian will gullibly believe it. Notice Rogan's, Adlerian's, Blackjack's tactic here....it's all quite similar....see some talking point (which Joe gets wrong in the first place, it was never from a press release), gullibly believe it, use zero critical thinking or proper skepticism, and then regurgitate. Then on to the next debunked talking point.

It's because none of them are actually interested in the truth or debate, they are just massive narcissists masking their insecurities by "putting themselves out there".

It they cared about what's what, they could easily do their research in a couple minutes and be done with it, but of course that would mean that they no longer get to pose as some enlightened thinkers who got it all figured it out.

Many such cases. Sadly.

05-14-2022, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩

If you think this is some kind of argument, Joe Rogan rambling on about CTs....I've got some bad news.

To see how silly this is with an example, skip to around 5:10 in the video, where Rogan makes a point to bring up a (long-ago debunked) hoaxer talking point, the "faked Michael Collins spacewalk photo". First, Joe is saying this is from Gemini 15, which never existed (Gemini went up until mission 12, and the one in question is Gemini 10). He claims that NASA in a press release doctored a photo of Collins to make a training photo look like it was in space:this never happened and has been exposed to be a made up claim not supported by a shred of evidence- no such press release has been produced. What actually happened is the photo appeared in certain editions of Collins' autobiography, and never was claimed to be from a spacewalk, in fact even was captioned as a photo from Collins' training. The only "hoax" here was the hoax of Ralph Rene in trying to pass it off that NASA (or Collins in the book) claimed this was from a spacewalk. This is mindless.

....but types like Adlerian will gullibly believe it. Notice Rogan's, Adlerian's, Blackjack's tactic here....it's all quite similar....see some talking point (which Joe gets wrong in the first place, it was never from a press release), gullibly believe it, use zero critical thinking or proper skepticism, and then regurgitate. Then on to the next debunked talking point.

Dayum, just utterly rekt.

Hoaxers, time to tuck tail and limp home. LukeLissen is a known big time CTer, antiestablishment, anti-govt poster, and even he can agree the Apollo missions weren't a hoax. One of the few CTers who actually does his own homework and has tried answering his own questions instead of acting like a five year old bringing the most retarded and flimsy talking point to be parsed over for a whole page, running off to find a new one when the old gets thoroughly laughed out.

Virtue is its own reward.

05-14-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩

If you think this is some kind of argument, Joe Rogan rambling on about CTs....I've got some bad news.

I didn't read past that sentence.

You didn't watch the video.

Rogan was saying the exact stuff I have which he believes were probably went but a lot of the photos and films are fake.

In one video he shows an astronaut who fell, getting up with using leverage, which is not possible here or on the moon. It appears the astronaut got yanked up by a wire.

It's extremely obvious.

There's no "rambling" in the video.

As I have mentioned before, people like you are emotionally invested in the moon story, I am not. So, I can be open minded or even know some or all of it is fake and I would not bother me, as I understand why they would fake it.

If you want to ask me a question:

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

I didn't read past that sentence.

You didn't watch the video.

Rogan was saying the exact stuff I have which he believes were probably went but a lot of the photos and films are fake.

In one video he shows an astronaut who fell, getting up with using leverage, which is not possible here or on the moon. It appears the astronaut got yanked up by a wire.

It's extremely obvious.

There's no "rambling" in the video.

As I have mentioned before, people like you are emotionally invested in the moon story, I am not. So, I can be open minded or even know some or all of it is fake and I would not bother me, as I understand why they would fake it.

Are you purposefully ignoring the other threads?

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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩

Dayum, just utterly rekt.

Once again, we have a 12 year old comment.

Watch toward the end of the Rogan video and see the photage of the fallen astronaut. It is obviously fake.

No one is "wrecked" talked about some or any subject.

If you want to ask me a question:

Ask: TheAdlerian

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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩

Are you purposefully ignoring the other threads?

Let's talk about them in person.

Your comments are moronic here and like that of a child.

We should meet up in Philly, I will show you where the Amish are at in Reading Terminal.

We can see how you deal with an adult discussion.

I will buy you lunch.

If you want to ask me a question:

Ask: TheAdlerian

http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=150655983&p=1000366043#post1000366043

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

Let's talk about them in person.

Your comments are moronic here and like that of a child.

We should meet up in Philly, I will show you where the Amish are at in Reading Terminal.

We can see how you deal with an adult discussion.

I will buy you lunch.

Yes, I showed my gf, who has a PhD in neuropsych these threads and she's totally intrigued and wants to come.

Iron Sport, I'll call Stevey P - when are you available?

PS - the Amish at Reading Terminal don't count as "living near the Amish"

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but before that, can you just explain for everyone how you got 1,048 lbs on a bar?

also how the PSC staff knew who Brian Shaw was four years before he went pro?

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

Let's talk about them in person.

Your comments are moronic here and like that of a child.

We should meet up in Philly, I will show you where the Amish are at in Reading Terminal.

We can see how you deal with an adult discussion.

I will buy you lunch.

I was pretty neutral to you before, but holy chit you've really done a good job of making yourself an embarrassment and a joke in each and every domain you dare open your mouth recently

Funny how you're ignoring the threads where you got called out, and essentially shown convincingly to be a pathological liar, but you can't shut the fuk up in here lmao. You are a hilarious guy, kudos.

@Numbersguy, will rep you on r/c, this is precisely why i've stayed out of this thread, i hate this general tactic that is nearly always used, and is completely unproductive (I mean they actually use an opinion piece by joe rogan as a source.. lmao). Glad someone is correcting a lot of the falsehood's here though.

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

I didn't read past that sentence.

You didn't watch the video.

Rogan was saying the exact stuff I have which he believes were probably went but a lot of the photos and films are fake.

In one video he shows an astronaut who fell, getting up with using leverage, which is not possible here or on the moon. It appears the astronaut got yanked up by a wire.

It's extremely obvious.

There's no "rambling" in the video.

As I have mentioned before, people like you are emotionally invested in the moon story, I am not. So, I can be open minded or even know some or all of it is fake and I would not bother me, as I understand why they would fake it.

"You didnt read past that sentence" because the Gemini example of Rogan's I mentioned (how the hell would I have known that example if I didnt watch the video) shows just how much of a joke this is. Here is Adlerian, in gullible fashion, believing what he sees and hears (from Joe Rogan smh).

To follow up on just how nonsensical that entire point was, here is discussion and somoeone who went out of their way to find a copy of the autobiography:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/nas...of-event.8963/

And here from that thread is another video of Rogan, inclassicNPC fashion, repeating the same exact bit about the Collins photo in another podcast (skip to 2:20), also getting the number of the Gemini mission wrong again (not Gemini 15). He then proceeds to talk (read: regurgitate) the Holland "wood moon rock" and other debunked points, again, in true NPC fashion.

Looking at the Metabunk thread above, we see thatthis wasnt a press release from NASA or anything of the sort, it was an autobiography of Collins. Inside this autobiography, the real zero-G training picture appears, and the caption reads merely ""The zer0-G airplane-sickening!"- clearly explaining that this was taken in training. No fakery there. The other place the picture appears with the dark back was a mere frontpiece or endpiece, without any caption. Publishers do this often and use artistic license...regardless this is the publisher, andnotNASA. There is no conspiracy by NASA to fake this picture or anything of the sort. Collins in the books says there werent pictures of him taken on the space walk.

And yet here is Rogan....apparently not using an ounce of proper criticism in regards to the claim...including gee I dunno, just buying a copy of the book. Instead just believe it in gullible fashion.

As for movements appearing strange, may be surprising but the moon has different strength of gravity than earth.

I would expect nothing more from this poster Adlerian, who like Rogan, jumps from one nonpoint to the next, understanding almost none of it, spewing more babble.

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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩

I didn't read past that sentence.

You did read it lol. At least you served a purpose in getting the smarter folks to explain chit, now I'm a little bit more knowledgeable, so thanks for that.

Virtue is its own reward.

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Back in 2004, President Bush pushed the return to the moon by 2020 with a human mission as early as 2015. Got to keep the public tax funds rolling in. Let's see what the NASA Administrator had to say on this matter:

We will return to the moon no later than 2020 and expend human presence across the solar system and beyond.
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=18122

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Originally Posted By Mckay23⏩

Back in 2004, President Bush pushed the return to the moon by 2020 with a human mission as early as 2015. Got to keep the public tax funds rolling in. Let's see what the NASA Administrator had to say on this matter:

Damn, it takes about two years earth time to reach the moon?

Are we there yet?

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So nasa steals trillions of tax dollars and invests a percentage of that into lobbyists who push for the ministry of truth so they have never found out?
Not only does it sound possible it sounds likely.

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05-14-2022, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩

So nasa steals trillions of tax dollars and invests a percentage of that into lobbyists who push for the ministry of truth so they have never found out?
Not only does it sound possible it sounds likely.

Lol Nasa's budget is only 22 billion a year

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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩

So nasa steals trillions of tax dollars and invests a percentage of that into lobbyists who push for the ministry of truth so they have never found out?
Not only does it sound possible it sounds likely.

that sounds neither plausible nor likely.

Rent a boat in South America already, tell us what's at the edge