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post 1663510803 06-27-2022, 04:34 AM
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Rents in the US just hit another record high

Up 16% in the year ending April and still rising

Ouch

Rentcels getting cucked again

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/05/19/h...ril/index.html

Something something iNvEsT tHe dIfFeReNcE
post 1663510983 06-27-2022, 04:41 AM
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Only going to get worse

Reminder rentcels, 4 days till next months rent is due
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post 1663511113 06-27-2022, 04:48 AM
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In4 for the resident Misc rentcel copers and their mental gymnastics.
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This is why I'm glad I bought when I did during a slump in 2016, fixed rate mortgage all the way, never have to worry about it going up.

Fck, I paid $169k, went up a lot.

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post 1663512133 06-27-2022, 05:32 AM
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More and more renters won't pay.

Can't wait for the fall out
post 1663512223 06-27-2022, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
More and more renters won't pay.

Can't wait for the fall out
sure they will
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
sure they will
not with the economy and inflation. mass layoffs already began.


food, gas and other bills will come before rent.


good luck


post 1663512493 06-27-2022, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
not with the economy and inflation. mass layoffs already began.


food, gas and other bills will come before rent.


good luck
they'll be out. the landlord forums are full of how to's
post 1663512603 06-27-2022, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
they'll be out. the landlord forums are full of how to's
that will take months as he lives rent free in your property.

like i said, good luck

post 1663512743 06-27-2022, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
that will take months as he lives rent free in your property.

like i said, good luck

I'm not worried, I don't know anyone who had a renter miss a payment and still be in the property the next month
post 1663512803 06-27-2022, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I'm not worried, I don't know anyone who had a renter miss a payment and still be in the property the next month












post 1663512873 06-27-2022, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull












When you rent rooms illegally, they don't take you to court
post 1663513503 06-27-2022, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I'm not worried, I don't know anyone who had a renter miss a payment and still be in the property the next month
don't feed the trolls bruh
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My rent is WAY less than a mortgage payment would be and we have rent control. My rent has gone up 2% in the past four years.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
don't feed the trolls bruh
where I live there's a longer than 6 months backlog in eviction court.

A LOT OF PEOPLE have opted to not pay rent collectively. it's wonderful tbh
post 1663513763 06-27-2022, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
More and more renters won't pay.

Can't wait for the fall out
Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
My rent is WAY less than a mortgage payment would be and we have rent control. My rent has gone up 2% in the past four years.
Nice for you, but not many places have rent control. Certainly don't have it in TX. There were stories roughly a year ago of people having to leave the area because they could not get housing.

Dallas-Fort Worth surpassed Austin in rent price growth over the last 12 months
It now costs about $1,475 a month to rent an apartment in the Metroplex, a 6.5% increase since January. Rent prices jumped 16% in the last 12 months in Dallas-Fort Worth, the steepest hike among Texas metros. Austin was second with a rent growth rate of 15.7%. In the Fort Worth area, rent is highest in Grapevine, Roanoke and Keller, where it jumped to $1,686 — an increase of more than 7% since January.

The apartment occupancy rate in DFW remains at 93.2%. In Fort Worth, the Saginaw and North Richland Hills areas had the highest occupancy rates: 95.5%.
Read more at:https://www.star-********.com/news/b...#storylink=cpy

Highest rent and highest occupancy? Yeah, that's my general area.
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post 1663513963 06-27-2022, 06:36 AM
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This thread is full of bad takes.

No mass layoffs. Just corrections in stupid bubbles from Covid. Like waitresses who quit their jobs to become realtors.

The only problem on the housing market is 300k starter homes, because minimum wage doesn’t support that. They will most likely drop back down to 200k.

But 700k homes that used to be 350k homes will stay close and so on.

Inflation was real, they didn’t gain that much value, money just lost that much value.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
This thread is full of bad takes.

No mass layoffs. Just corrections in stupid bubbles from Covid. Like waitresses who quit their jobs to become realtors.

The only problem on the housing market is 300k starter homes, because minimum wage doesn’t support that. They will most likely drop back down to 200k.

But 700k homes that used to be 350k homes will stay close and so on.

Inflation was real, they didn’t gain that much value, money just lost that much value.
This. We bought our current home right before the price explosion in our area for ~$330k with 20% down @ 2.85%. The two most recent comps in our neighborhood (nearly identical home sq ft and lot size) sold for ~$460k and ~$500k respectively. We are so far out in equity right now it would pretty much take the collapse of society as a whole to put us underwater.
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post 1663514003 06-27-2022, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
This thread is full of bad takes.

No mass layoffs. Just corrections in stupid bubbles from Covid. Like waitresses who quit their jobs to become realtors.

The only problem on the housing market is 300k starter homes, because minimum wage doesn’t support that. They will most likely drop back down to 200k.

But 700k homes that used to be 350k homes will stay close and so on.

Inflation was real, they didn’t gain that much value, money just lost that much value.
you haven't heard about the tech and real estate companies laying off 10% of their staff? like redfin, tesla etc
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Also if you didn’t more than double your net worth in the last two years, you fell behind.
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Originally Posted By katya422


that number is growing by the day



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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
you haven't heard about the tech and real estate companies laying off 10% of their staff? like redfin, tesla etc
I caught a clip of Elon saying that the two newest gigafactories are losing billions.
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
you haven't heard about the tech and real estate companies laying off 10% of their staff? like redfin, tesla etc
Redfins a perfect example of waitresses who left to become realestate agents sir.

Tech is experiencing shake out of a highly disrupted work environment since everyone was wfh etc..

But I would also say tech is most affected by global supply chain disruption and will struggle the hardest adapting to our new economy.
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Originally Posted By katya422
I caught a clip of Elon saying that the two newest gigafactories are losing billions.
yup and some 20-30% of companies are operating at a net loss but were kept going due to low interest rates. taking out massive loans to keep the doors open.

those days are gone.

what is the first thing those companies are going to do?


CUT WORKFORCE


I mean these retards


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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
sure they will
Who's gonna make me?

Not pandemic 2.0
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
Redfins a perfect example of waitresses who left to become realestate agents sir.

Tech is experiencing shake out of a highly disrupted work environment since everyone was wfh etc..

But I would also say tech is most affected by global supply chain disruption and will struggle the hardest adapting to our new economy.
no, corporate employees you moron.

real estate agents can't get laid off, they don't work on salary.
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Originally Posted By TheGoldenBull
yup and some 20-30% of companies are operating at a net loss but were kept going due to low interest rates. taking out massive loans to keep the doors open.

those days are gone.

what is the first thing those companies are going to do?


CUT WORKFORCE
So you are aware of the large number of "zombie" companies?

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/...cation-economy
An additional piece of evidence to support this argument is the increase in the number of “zombie companies.” A zombie company is one whose earnings before interest and taxes are less than or equal to its debt service [it coincides exactly with Minsky’s definition of speculative and Ponzi companies, taken together]. A zombie is a wonderful metaphor because a zombie moves and appears to be alive but is in fact dead. A zombie company also moves and appears to be alive—it generates activity, employs workers, and produces goods—but in reality is [almost] dead. It is [almost] certain to die given its inability to pay its debt with its own means. The number of zombie companies has increased exponentially in the United States in recent years, according to a Bank for International Settlements [BIS] report. Furthermore, the probability of remaining in a zombie state has increased. And in fact, zombification is a reality in almost every part of the world.
And then on top of that PPI [producer inflation] is way out in front of CPI [consumer inflation] which means that producers will have to cut costs [employment] or increase prices to remain solvent AND higher interest on outstanding debt can only exacerbate the situation if producers have to shell out more of their gross income for debt servicing.



So as the central banks increase interest rates they blow up "zombies", over leveraged consumers [see: credit cards], and over leveraged governments.

But if they don't increase interest rates then we continue with inflation > demand destruction > still crashing companies and some governments. [see: Sri Lanka]
Originally Posted By ymer
This guy is not trolling.

Mortgagecels have their blinds on just like cryptocels, they only see "money go up, can only go higher and I cant lose".

People have to live somewhere and mortgagecels have to pay their rent to the banks as well.

If renters can't pay due to super inflated prices sure they can get evicted but who will rent the property now? Another one who got evicted and cant pay rent?well...mortgagecels think that in a recession somehow high earners who are unaffected by inflation will materialize from thin air.

What happens next is that the market will adjust for this, meaning that mortgagecels will not find any renter and they will have to lower the rents in order to not lose their homes to the bank.
How will they make up the difference? Well why dont they get a third job at mcdonalds.

Suckers that got a mortgage at the very peak of the bubble will only understand this when it happens to them.
Partially correct.

owner/occupant:Who cares? As long as they aren't trying to sell and their payment is affordable it's all good.

owner/landlord:It depends. Depends on how deep their pockets are, how far the rental rate drops relative to the carrying cost for the property[ies], and what happens with the economy generally.

If there is a full on currency reset/collapse then RE that can be kept in control [not seized by a bank] should remain a store of wealth and potential income producing asset.

Because if people are paying with dollars, or euros, or some new central bank digital currency doesn't matter so long as the can be depended on to keep paying as much as the landlords can squeeze out of them.
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