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post 1663792823 07-02-2022, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Lunatic
Sure did, and you didn't address anything in my post.
Teeming with Kreulian inference.

Pretty awesome

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post 1663792903 07-02-2022, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
This lie:



When did the trials start?
post 1663792943 07-02-2022, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
What lie?

mRNA vaccines aren't new.

China is just about ready with theirs. Curious since they had the market locked in "superior" "traditional vaccines".

Then again, they do like genocide.

Y'all are awesome!
A lot of people would trust their vaccine over the corrupt organizations in America. And yes, I'm aware of how ****ed China is.
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post 1663793023 07-02-2022, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Lunatic
A lot of people would trust their vaccine over the corrupt organizations in America. And yes, I'm aware of how ****ed China is.
So the current mRNA vaccines are American?
post 1663793143 07-02-2022, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Teeming with Kreulian inference.

Pretty awesome

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181493053
And you seriously think it's out of the norm for people to NOT trust pharm companies after they manipulated pretty much everything and everyone with the covid vaccine? Really?

Plenty ITT said that they'd give their kids vaccines that aren't covid, which doesn't even work.

You really are a special kind of close minded.
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post 1663793173 07-02-2022, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So the current mRNA vaccines are American?
Jesus Christ.... changing my previous comment of "special kind of close minded" to special kind of stupid.
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post 1663793303 07-02-2022, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Vaccines = bad

mRNA is brand new and untested, even though it isn't.
You are so snakey.

Even if your statement was the entire story [it isn't] it stillwould not apply to these shots.

They didn't use mrna, though that is all they told the public. They used a modified mrna. It is a synthetic construct created to intentionally be difficult for the body to break down.

Discussion here:



And a paper:

Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs

In the history of mRNA vaccine development,it was initially hoped that the mRNA itself could serve as its own adjuvant. This is because human cells recognize viral RNA as foreign, and this leads to upregulation of type I IFNs, mediated via toll like receptors such as TLR3, TLR7 and TLR8.

A seminal paper by Karikó et al. (2005) demonstrated through a series of in vitro experiments that a simple modification to the mRNA such that all uridines were replaced with pseudouridine could dramatically reduce innate immune activation against exogenous mRNA.Andries et al. (2015) later discovered that 1-methylpseudouridine as a replacement for uridine was even more effective than pseudouridine and could essentially abolish the TLR response to the mRNA, preventing the activation of blood-derived dendritic cells. This modification is applied in both the mRNA vaccines on the market .
The SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein mRNA is further “humanized” with the addition of a guanine-methylated cap, 3′ and 5′ untranslated regions (UTRs) copied from those of human proteins, and finally a long poly(A) tail to further stabilize the RNA (Kyriakopoulos and McCullough, 2021). In particular, researchers have cleverly selected the 3′UTR taken from globins which are produced in large quantities by erythrocytes, becauseit is very effective at protecting the mRNA from degradation and maintaining sustained protein production(Orlandini von Niessen et al., 2019).

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Thus, the mRNA in the vaccines, equipped with the cap 2'-O methylation motif, evades detection as a viral invasion. Furthermore,the overwhelming impetus for cells to perform a single and artificial approach to translation according to the robust capping and synthetic methylations of mRNAs in vaccines is fundamentally associated with disease progression due to differential rather than normal signaling of pattern recognition receptors(PRRs)

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A recent early-release study has found thatthe mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines is present in germinal centers in secondary lymphoid tissue long after the vaccine is administered, and that it continues to synthesize spike glycoprotein up to at least sixty days post-vaccination (Röltgen et al., 2022).
Link to paper:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...7869152200206X

Cliffs:

- potential sustained production of a neurotoxic protein that impairs DNA repair

- impaired immunity for infectious disease and cancer

- codon optimization for G rich mrna > protein misfolding/prion disease type effects*
What may be of particular concern is the fact that GC enrichment content in vaccine mRNAs results in anenhanced ability for potential G-quadruplex (pG4) formations in these structures, and this could cause onset of neurological disease(Wang et al., 2021). Remarkably, the human prion protein (PrP) genetic sequence contains multiple G4 forming motifs, and their presence may form the missing link in the initial conversion of PrP to the misfolded form, PrPsc (Olsthoorn, 2014).PrP binding to its own mRNA may be the seed that causes the protein to misfold. This observation is particularly concerning in light of the fact that the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein has prion-like characteristics
Cliffs of Cliffs:the covid mrna shots are bad 'cause science
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post 1663793323 07-02-2022, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Are those the ones that are a decade old, according to you?
Nope. Dat's German.

Maybe they invented covid to sell their stuff?
post 1663793383 07-02-2022, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Lunatic
And you seriously think it's out of the norm for people to NOT trust pharm companies after they manipulated pretty much everything and everyone with the covid vaccine? Really?

Plenty ITT said that they'd give their kids vaccines that aren't covid, which doesn't even work.

You really are a special kind of close minded.
So vaccines != bad?
post 1663793483 07-02-2022, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Just imagine being surprised at people not taking your seriously when you make posts like these.
Do people actually take the misc seriously?

Pretty sure I said I would never expect anyone here to take me seriously

Look at the contents of this thread
post 1663793523 07-02-2022, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So vaccines != bad?
I'm very pro vaccine, which I have a post history that supports. I'm VERY anti covid "vaccine."

Also, you going to ignore Katya's post?

An FYI for you:

I was initially happy for the covid vaccine and thought it was in everyone's benefit. but even with that I knew not to get the shot when it first came out because I'm not dumb. You don't come up with, manufacture, and distribute that many shots in such a small amount of time without cutting an insane number of corners, which is what was obviously done. Denying that just makes you look incredibly stupid.

Also, I have never gotten the flu vaccine and have never gotten the flu as an adult. Funny how that works.
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post 1663793563 07-02-2022, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Lunatic
Also, you going to ignore Katya's post?
Yes
post 1663793653 07-02-2022, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I mean, at least you're aware of how most people are aware that you make chit up all the time.
There's been a resurgence in lifting related threads
post 1663793723 07-02-2022, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Yes
Not surprised lmao
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post 1663793813 07-02-2022, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Lunatic
Not surprised lmao
Do you think people can get jacked by watching YouTube videos about how to get jacked by watching YouTube videos?
post 1663794133 07-02-2022, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Do you think people can get jacked by lying about getting jacked?
No.

But that would be sweet
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JLC getting BTFO by Anachron again, just fukkin lol. Stopped reading at him mixing up "used for decades" with "in clinical trials."
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post 1663799943 07-02-2022, 07:24 PM
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didnt read OP, shocked this thread has 5 pages, no TLDR, no CLIFFS i assume its the same 20odd simps bumping and arguing
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
S'all good, man. It's not straightforward. Understanding and experience with immunohistochemistry helps tho
what part was not straightforward for you?
I'll try my best to help, or research anything I'm unable to answer. srs
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Originally Posted By Johnez
JLC getting BTFO by Anachron again, just fukkin lol. Stopped reading at him mixing up "used for decades" with "in clinical trials."
Hell yeah. Populism ain't fake.

Also, I said "a decade"

Don't look anything up for yourself though, you might end up disappoint
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Pretty alarming if true, but I'm gonna need to see a bit more concrete evidence than some random's Reddit post on r/conspiracy. I looked around trying to corroborate this story, even circumstantially or implicitly, from a wide range of news sources and couldn't find anything about the government controlling distribution of the vax by lot number-- and that would 1000% be made public if it were true because despite what this LARPer is saying, there are plenty of legitimate reasons why the government would be monitoring that information (tracking waste/use of doses which def have an expiration date, tracking state-level usage of distributed vaccines so that the government isn't over-distributing vaxes, the generalized government need for busy-work and beaurocracy, etc.)

I think the working theory of "this is not a vax but rather a gene therapy treatment, to which many people seem to have some reasonably srs adverse side effects" is still the most defensible position to take. Anyway, I'm not vaxcuck, but I think half-baked conspiracy which presents no data or evidence like this does more to harm the "anti-vax" cause than just looking at the actual data concerning documented and acknowledged sides. Just my take though, this could certainly be true schizo sloot-- thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted By Paul
what part was not straightforward for you?
I'll try my best to help, or research anything I'm unable to answer. srs
Vry straightforward for me
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Just think about how much confidence you would have to believe anything that the "experts" or "officials" would tell you.

That is the biggest problem in this whole mess - the complete lack of confidence that they have created, regardless whether it was intentional or not.
Oh for sure, I'm not saying that I'm reading the news looking for an article called "Government Monitoring Placebo Lots for Coof Vax." I legitimately looked for ANY (and I really mean ANY) mention of the government tracking lot numbers on vaccines-- including articles that covered the specific use cases I mentioned above where it certainly would be mentioned-- and there was not a single reference to any kind of lot-based methodology.

That said, I'm 100% sure that they are monitoring lot #s whether they are openly talking about it or not, but it seems to me that if they were doing it maliciously then they would want to put out some disinfo to cover their tracks.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Still deflecting - completely ignored the key part of his post to whine about semantics.

Why do beavercels feel this incessant need to make chit up all the time?
A decade is 10 years tho. Given the "development timelines" skeptics like to take about, it seems relevant
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
Lol as if they'd target blacks with the deadly one and not whites. Where the fuk have these people been living?
It would seem there is evidence of a genetic weakness against the virus that exists mostly in caucasians and East Asians. A certain gene I forget which.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Hell yeah. Populism ain't fake.

Also, I said "a decade"

Don't look anything up for yourself though, you might end up disappoint
Used for a decade in humans as a finished product? Or in clinical trials trials for a decade?

Also, you provide the claim, you provide the evidence.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
Used for a decade in humans as a finished product? Or in clinical trials trials for a decade?

Also, you provide the claim, you provide the evidence.
Used in a vaccine for humans, a decade ago.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Vry straightforward for me
evidently not if you still think the spike protein does not enter the cell nucleus from vaccination..
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Originally Posted By Paul
evidently not if you still think the spike protein does not enter the cell nucleus from vaccination..
Bro. Viral spike != vaccine encoded spike
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Used in a vaccine for humans, a decade ago.
"Look up Curevac"

Wikipedia:

The CureVac COVID-19 vaccine (abbreviated CVnCoV) was a COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by CureVac N.V. and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).[2] The vaccine showed inadequate results in its Phase III trials with only 47% efficacy.[3] In October 2021 CureVac abandoned further development and production plans for CVnCoV and refocused efforts on a cooperation with GlaxoSmithKline.[4]

Lol.
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